List Of Champions that DUCKED GGG - Response to Horse

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Ok because some people are really ignorant and are asking questions like

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I decided to make a list of champions that have officially DUCKED Gennady Golovkin since he became the Regular WBA champion in 2010.

1.Felix Sturm - WBA (2010-2012),IBF (2013-2014)

Golovkin was the Mando of Sturm when he was the WBA champion, he never EVER faced him.

2.Daniel Geale - IBF (2011-2013),WBA (2012)

Golovkin was the Mando of Geale but Geale elected not to face him and got stripped of his WBA title.

3.Sergio Martinez - WBO (2010),WBC (2010) (2012-2014)

Golovkin has been calling out Sergio Martinez since he made his american Debut on HBO, Martinez never EVER responded and faced inferior opponents eventually losing his titles in 2014.

4.Miguel Cotto - WBC (2014-2015)

Golovkin Called out Cotto instantly when he won his world title in 2014, Golovkin was the mandatory challenger to Cotto yet Cotto chose to fight Geale AND Canelo. When asked about Golovkin in post fight press conference he didnt know what to say making facial expressions indicating that he does not want the fight.

5.Peter Quillin - WBO (2012-2014)

When Quillin was the middleweight champion K2 promotions made him an offer (As stated by Tom Loefler) to face Gennady in the states yet Quillin never responded, later in 2015 in an interview Quillin stated he wants $5-10m in order to face Gennady pricing himself out of the fight.

6.Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - WBO (2012)

Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam was the mandatory challenger to Gennady Golovkin, he opted himself out of the fight and lost his mandatory position thus avoiding Gennady Golovkin.

7.Sam Soliman - IBF (2014)

Soliman won the IBF title in 2014 from Felix Sturm, immedietly after winning the title he called out Gennady Golovkin, then Golovkin fought his countryman Daniel Geale. Sam Soliman saw the fight and changed his mind stating he will NOT fight Golovkin after what he saw.

8.Darren Barker - IBF (2013)

Barker won the IBF title in 2013 when he beat Daniel Geale, later in the year Golovkin offered to Barker to fight him in England with a very low purse and his only demand was for them to give Team Golovkin 10 FREE tickets. The promoter realised Golovkin was the real deal and never accepted the fight.

9.Canelo Alvarez - WBC (2015)

After Canelo won the WBC title from Cotto he was obliged to fight his Mando Gennady Golovkin, Canelo insisted Golovkin should come down to 155 or there is no fight. In order for Golovkin not to lose the super fight he accepted that Canelo should take one more fight before facing him in order for the nagotiations to be more fair in september (Make the Fight at 158-160). This move was criticized and will remain in history as a duck EVEN if Canelo eventually fights Golovkin, a true champion would have fought at 160.

10.Billy Joe Saunders - WBO (2015)

BJS won his major title beating Andy lee, and has stated in MANY interviews that he doesnt intend to fight Golovkin EXCEPT if TeamGGG offers a ridiculous amount of money, which he doesnt deserve. Golovkin offered him $3.2m to fight yet he asked for more money to make the fight happen, thus officially ducking him by pricing himself out (Even if the fight does happen, the amount of money needed to make it would be immense, meaning that if Team Golovkin did not have the money it would be a duck)

ok so since 2010 we had 10 CHAMPIONS that ducked Gennady tripleG Golovkin, I think something like this has never ever happened in the span of 5 years, its just sad. The amount of fear he produces is unreal. If I forgot ANY other champions that ducked him feel free to add them.
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Taylor.
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Nice fairy tale you are spinning here, Airhead.

Some of it might even be true.

But none of us will know which is gospel and which is bullshyt until you post
some links showing where K2 made an offer and it was rejected. For each guy.

Nice try tho. Feel free to edit your OP with links, then we can have a real discussion
instead of folks going back and forth about who is the biggest fanboy.

Good Luck...
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makes sense :TU:
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ikorolev wrote:Taylor.
I wanted to add him but i didnt find sufficient proof that he ducked Golovkin except that he never ever mentioned him and was scheduled to face Mora before getting stripped.
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Post by Horse »

Geale fought Golvkin.
Cotto signed to fight Golovkin if he won.
Quillin also ducked Korobov. The guy just didn't want to fight anyone that he thought was good.
Soliman was champion for 4 months and apparently he was interested in that fight for half of his reign. Not much of a duck.
Barker only had his IBF title for 4 months and took a tough fight against Sturm as his first defence. Not champion long enough to be considered a ducker.
Alvarez is going to fight Golovkin later this year.
Saunders has only just won his title and hasn't had the chance to duck Golovkin yet.
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Horse wrote:Geale fought Golvkin.
Not when he was a champion.
Horse wrote:Cotto signed to fight Golovkin if he won.
And we know how Cotto honors his word. He refused to pay step aside money he "signed" to pay.
Horse wrote:Barker only had his IBF title for 4 months and took a tough fight against Sturm as his first defence. Not champion long enough to be considered a ducker.
Hearn made it clear that Barker will never fight Golovkin for reasonable money.
Horse wrote:Alvarez is going to fight Golovkin later this year.
Are you so sure?
Horse wrote:Saunders has only just won his title and hasn't had the chance to duck Golovkin yet.
That's exactly what he is doing now pricing himself out.
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Horse wrote:Geale fought Golvkin.
That does not change the fact that he vacated the title to avoid GGG previously.
Horse wrote:Cotto signed to fight Golovkin if he won.
He was forced to sigh lest he was stripped of the title. He never indicated the intention to fight Golovkin.
Horse wrote:Quillin also ducked Korobov. The guy just didn't want to fight anyone that he thought was good.
Doesnt mean he did not duck GGG for years.
Horse wrote:Alvarez is going to fight Golovkin later this year.
You see the future? Otherwise I cant give someone a credit for something he has not done yet.
Horse wrote:Saunders has only just won his title and hasn't had the chance to duck Golovkin yet.
He is dragging his feet damn well though.
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On a positive note. Dimitry Pirog has expressed the desire to get back to boxing. That is one guy we know will not duck anyone.

If Pirog can gets back in top shape we will finally have someone who can provide a real challenge for GGG.
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Tarkus wrote:On a positive note. Dimitry Pirog has expressed the desire to get back to boxing. That is one guy we know will not duck anyone.

If Pirog can gets back in top shape we will finally have someone who can provide a real challenge for GGG.
Pirog is "returning" every year. Let's be realistic: his back will never heal enough to fight on the top level again. It would be a good fight though.
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ikorolev wrote:
Tarkus wrote:On a positive note. Dimitry Pirog has expressed the desire to get back to boxing. That is one guy we know will not duck anyone.

If Pirog can gets back in top shape we will finally have someone who can provide a real challenge for GGG.
Pirog is "returning" every year. Let's be realistic: his back will never heal enough to fight on the top level again. It would be a good fight though.
David Haye was also returning every year until he actually did return. Assuming he fights next week of course.

Injuries heal. It is possible he got better.
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Sturm went for the unification fight against Geale and lost.

Geale dropped the WBA belt to fight Mundine again in a big money fight in Australia.

Golovkin made his US debut two weeks before Martinez fought Chavez Jr. He then fought Murray for his homecoming in Argentina and Cotto on PPV before retiring. At that stage his body was in pieces and he wasn't far off fighting on one leg with the state his knee was in.

Cotto signed to fight Golovkin if he beat Alvarez. That was the bigger fight for him, as 900k PPV buys proved, so it was always going to come first.

Need to know what Quillin was offered to make a proper judgement, but given his general reluctance to fight tough opposition, it's probably fair to say he did duck Golovkin, definitely didn't have much interest in the fight.

N'Dam wasn't a champion. He chose to fight one champion over another, likely because there was better money on offer considering Golovkin hadn't started fighting in America at that stage.

Soliman lost the belt to Taylor in the first defence. Considering that he's spent his whole career fighting anyone, anywhere, I don't see it as particularly fair to say that he's ducked anyone without providing some good evidence.

The offer to fight Barker was sometime in 2011/2012, well before he won the IBF title. Golovkin's team wanted a logo on the ring mat, 20 ringside tickets and the Eastern European TV rights to come over, Barker was willing to take the fight, Hearn was delighted because of how cheap it was, but Tony Sims wasn't keen on it so they went down a different route, which I think was fighting Martinez because it was before Golovkin was given the WBA title when Geale vacated and Barker was out injured for a year after the Martinez fight.

If Alvarez and Golovkin both win their next fight, they'll fight each other. You can't fight someone and duck them.

They haven't even finished negotiating for the fight yet. You have no idea what Billy Joe has been offered, but have chosen to go with the highest figure reported as it suits your agenda, other numbers quoted are much lower. Even then Saunders can make more money by going down other options, with the Golovkin fight still being there for him once he's picked up more experience.

I make that one champion, Quillin, who has ducked Golovkin in the last 5 years.
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expe wrote: I make that one champion, Quillin, who has ducked Golovkin in the last 5 years.
The rest just were always finding reasons to not fight him. Excuses, excuses ...
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expe wrote:

I make that one champion, Quillin, who has ducked Golovkin in the last 5 years.
Except that one guy was signed to an exclusive contract by a promotional company
which for a time HAD ALL ITS FIGHTERS BANNED BY HBO, the network lil g fights on,
and who is still being advised by Al Haymon, whose fighters mostly appear on the PBC
and on Showtime.

In other words, even calling Quillin a duck takes a little myopia.

I believe that brings us to zero unless Airhead has some links...
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expe wrote:Sturm went for the unification fight against Geale and lost.

Geale dropped the WBA belt to fight Mundine again in a big money fight in Australia.

Golovkin made his US debut two weeks before Martinez fought Chavez Jr. He then fought Murray for his homecoming in Argentina and Cotto on PPV before retiring. At that stage his body was in pieces and he wasn't far off fighting on one leg with the state his knee was in.

Cotto signed to fight Golovkin if he beat Alvarez. That was the bigger fight for him, as 900k PPV buys proved, so it was always going to come first.

Need to know what Quillin was offered to make a proper judgement, but given his general reluctance to fight tough opposition, it's probably fair to say he did duck Golovkin, definitely didn't have much interest in the fight.

N'Dam wasn't a champion. He chose to fight one champion over another, likely because there was better money on offer considering Golovkin hadn't started fighting in America at that stage.

Soliman lost the belt to Taylor in the first defence. Considering that he's spent his whole career fighting anyone, anywhere, I don't see it as particularly fair to say that he's ducked anyone without providing some good evidence.

The offer to fight Barker was sometime in 2011/2012, well before he won the IBF title. Golovkin's team wanted a logo on the ring mat, 20 ringside tickets and the Eastern European TV rights to come over, Barker was willing to take the fight, Hearn was delighted because of how cheap it was, but Tony Sims wasn't keen on it so they went down a different route, which I think was fighting Martinez because it was before Golovkin was given the WBA title when Geale vacated and Barker was out injured for a year after the Martinez fight.

If Alvarez and Golovkin both win their next fight, they'll fight each other. You can't fight someone and duck them.

They haven't even finished negotiating for the fight yet. You have no idea what Billy Joe has been offered, but have chosen to go with the highest figure reported as it suits your agenda, other numbers quoted are much lower. Even then Saunders can make more money by going down other options, with the Golovkin fight still being there for him once he's picked up more experience.

I make that one champion, Quillin, who has ducked Golovkin in the last 5 years.
So Geale didnt duck him? Isnt that considered a duck? When u lose ur belt to fight someone else?

What else am I going to hear in this forum, everything u wrote is plain excuses for every single fighter. The evidence is here and if u dont believe it you can search on google.

Also u need to learn boxing, Hassan ndam was upgraded to WBO middleweight champion after Pirog got stripped of his title. Then he lost to Quillin as a defending CHAMPION. He is a former world champion YDKSAB
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:zzz:
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When you start a thread where you are asserting things as fact, you owe it to your fellow
posters to either provide direct links to document what you say or point them to exactly
where they can find the proof of what you are contending.

Telling them to google it when you yourself apparently HAVE NOT even bothered to do the same
just amounts to you spouting unverifiable fanboy nonsense.

You started this thread with a ridiculous post which has since been picked apart by someone who actually has a clue.

It is incumbent upon you, Airhead, to now respond with fact...or admit you got owned.
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A list of people who ducked GGG is just a list of people who are sane, since no one in their right mind would want to fight the guy.
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x2x wrote:A list of people who ducked GGG is just a list of people who are sane, since no one in their right mind would want to fight the guy.
AHHH UMMM, There aint no list.

Haven't you read anything here?

The OP has been completely discredited.
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koolkc107 wrote:
x2x wrote:A list of people who ducked GGG is just a list of people who are sane, since no one in their right mind would want to fight the guy.
AHHH UMMM, There aint no list.

Haven't you read anything here?

The OP has been completely discredited.


I confess I didn't read a single thing in this thread except the headline!

:OhYes:
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x2x wrote:A list of people who ducked GGG is just a list of people who are sane, since no one in their right mind would want to fight the guy.
Everything has its price though. Current boxing is all about for how much you sell your ass not about how to be the best. Geal ran from GGG until his price went down so much that GGG could afford it. :)
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x2x wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:
x2x wrote:A list of people who ducked GGG is just a list of people who are sane, since no one in their right mind would want to fight the guy.
AHHH UMMM, There aint no list.

Haven't you read anything here?

The OP has been completely discredited.


I confess I didn't read a single thing in this thread except the headline!

:OhYes:
... and nobody was discredited by those excuses by couple morons.
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x2x wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:
x2x wrote:A list of people who ducked GGG is just a list of people who are sane, since no one in their right mind would want to fight the guy.
AHHH UMMM, There aint no list.

Haven't you read anything here?

The OP has been completely discredited.


I confess I didn't read a single thing in this thread except the headline!

:OhYes:
Congrats!

Admitting that automatically makes you the most intelligent AND honest lil g fanboy in this thread.

:TU:
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Geale fought Mundine for 2-3 million anyone would do the same.
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DA GOOSE wrote:Geale fought Mundine for 2-3 million anyone would do the same.
He could have fought Mundine after defending his title. Over the hill Mundine was not going anywhere.
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