What the appeal?

[BAD INTENTIONS]

I don't get the appeal of heavyweights.

The current crop are generally unskilled, and even the ones who are skilled, they are light years behind the fighters at the lower weight classes.
Maybe it's because I'm also a big person, but I just don't get it.

There's all this hype behind heavies right now, and based on what? Wlad/Fury was one of the worst championship fights ever. Wilder's last fight looked like a middleweight prelim on FNF.

I just don't get it. People here hate Floyd and don't want to watch him, but are willing to watch Fury ... smh.

[Tony1244]

I don't get the appeal of heavyweights.

The current crop are generally unskilled, and even the ones who are skilled, they are light years behind the fighters at the lower weight classes.
Maybe it's because I'm also a big person, but I just don't get it.

There's all this hype behind heavies right now, and based on what? Wlad/Fury was one of the worst championship fights ever. Wilder's last fight looked like a middleweight prelim on FNF.

I just don't get it. People here hate Floyd and don't want to watch him, but are willing to watch Fury ... smh.

A lot of people are really sick of this super featherweight crap. You can see for yourself that threads on HW fighters get a tremendous amount of responses, the lower weight divisions, usually not so much.

[Datsue]

I don't get the appeal of heavyweights.

The current crop are generally unskilled, and even the ones who are skilled, they are light years behind the fighters at the lower weight classes.
Maybe it's because I'm also a big person, but I just don't get it.

There's all this hype behind heavies right now, and based on what? Wlad/Fury was one of the worst championship fights ever. Wilder's last fight looked like a middleweight prelim on FNF.

I just don't get it. People here hate Floyd and don't want to watch him, but are willing to watch Fury ... smh.

All this "heavyweight renaissance" shite is getting a touch annoying. Best thing you can do with most modern heavies is cut them in half & make two bantamweights out of the leftover raw materials.

But--apart from certain halcyon "golden eras"--I'd say that it was ever so. Down through the years, the best have rarely been the biggest.

& just look at Tony's response; using his "logic", the Spice Girls are one of the greatest gifts to music ever, 'cos they sold a lot of records. It's like watching heavyweights actually makes you stupider.

[littlepug]

Yep todays heavies are crap, the lighter weights have never failed us

[SaadOffTheDeck]

When an exciting fight consists of less than 10 punches landed a round and the suspense that neither can defend at all, you're looking at shit. Wlad/fury just set an all time low for skilless boredom so anything looks good. I'd rather watch a child color than that rematch.

[gilgamesh]

When an exciting fight consists of less than 10 punches landed a round and the suspense that neither can defend at all, you're looking at poo. Wlad/fury just set an all time low for skilless boredom so anything looks good. I'd rather watch a child color than that rematch.

[Tanzio]

When an exciting fight consists of less than 10 punches landed a round and the suspense that neither can defend at all, you're looking at poo. Wlad/fury just set an all time low for skilless boredom so anything looks good. I'd rather watch a child color than that rematch.

Tbh, watching my grandchildren color is pretty entertaining

I enjoy all weight classes, but there is still something special about watching the HWs do their thing. Even with Wilder's raw skill level, I found high drama in that fight Saturday night. Szpilka came in with a good strategy and he was executing very well tactically. I knew that Wilder could end it at any moment but it was looking like Szpilka was going to get to the cards, which I had even through 8 (with Wilder up in 9). And BOOM! Game over. I also thought that if Szpilka could land something clean we might be treated to a giant Bambi on ice (or Hitman shuffle) scene.

Maybe I am easily entertained but I found WKlit v Fury very interesting. Fury did his best FMJ imitation and he was too big and threatening for WKlit to drape on or come in guns blazing.

My expectations for HWs are different than they are for the MW and under classes. For me it still comes down to the World's Heavyweight Champion being the King Kong of the boxing hill.

P4P is quaint, and somewhat interesting, but the boss is the HW top dog.

[Boxing Prospect]

I don't get the appeal of heavyweights.

The current crop are generally unskilled, and even the ones who are skilled, they are light years behind the fighters at the lower weight classes.
Maybe it's because I'm also a big person, but I just don't get it.

There's all this hype behind heavies right now, and based on what? Wlad/Fury was one of the worst championship fights ever. Wilder's last fight looked like a middleweight prelim on FNF.

I just don't get it. People here hate Floyd and don't want to watch him, but are willing to watch Fury ... smh.

A lot of people are really sick of this super featherweight crap. You can see for yourself that threads on HW fighters get a tremendous amount of responses, the lower weight divisions, usually not so much.

Wasn't a particular super featherweight bout widely regarded as the FOTY last year?

Actually the last 2 years?

[caldo2025]

It's a pretty darn good point here but I am one of the ones excited about the resurgence and the reasoning is simple. The baddest man on the planet used to always be the heavyweight champion of the world. That is until Wlad's boring ass won it and then went into hiding. A good number of his title defenses weren't even televised in the US. That's pathetic and he really should have been promoting the sport and the sports most famous belt but he single handedly ruined the division with the way he conducted himself as champion.

Now, we just have to find a way to keep him from winning it again and just retire already. With our luck, he'll win it back and then go back into hiding only fighting once a year in Germany or some other country where the fights are around 1pm here and untelevised. Good riddance Wlad. Now we have a nice new crop of bangers and people are excited that we may finally get the mystique back instead of the mistake Wlad did with it.

[Tony1244]

I don't get the appeal of heavyweights.

The current crop are generally unskilled, and even the ones who are skilled, they are light years behind the fighters at the lower weight classes.
Maybe it's because I'm also a big person, but I just don't get it.

There's all this hype behind heavies right now, and based on what? Wlad/Fury was one of the worst championship fights ever. Wilder's last fight looked like a middleweight prelim on FNF.

I just don't get it. People here hate Floyd and don't want to watch him, but are willing to watch Fury ... smh.

A lot of people are really sick of this super featherweight crap. You can see for yourself that threads on HW fighters get a tremendous amount of responses, the lower weight divisions, usually not so much.

Wasn't a particular super featherweight bout widely regarded as the FOTY last year?

Actually the last 2 years?

I'm not saying they sometimes don't have good scrapes, but the interest is lower. I think the fans know this, SHOWTIME and some of the others not so much. There is a bizarre reverse discrimination against the HWs.

[littlepug]

The skill set just isn't there in todays HWs, also their unwillingness to show any sort of meaningful aggression when faced with an opponent of equal ability will really hurt their standing in the sport

[Tanzio]

The skill set just isn't there in todays HWs, also their unwillingness to show any sort of meaningful aggression when faced with an opponent of equal ability will really hurt their standing in the sport

I think that it has improved a lot over 5 to 10 years ago.

Fury has skills for a behemoth. WKlit is still around and like it or not he is a HW of historic significance. Povetkin has very good skills. Wilder befits his name but who wants to hazard absorbing one of his shots? Ortiz has the size and skill level to have competed in any era. Pulev is nothing great but he has survived on little more than skill. Joseph Parker is moving up the ladder and improving every time out. Joshua has very good skills and excellent power. Stiverne has decent skills. Chisora, bum that he is, has fair skill and he is on a bum and a half a month regimen. And then there is Haye. His skills and gifts are formidable in any era. Malik Scott has an excellent skillset. Glazkov is too small for today's HWs but his skills are good.

That's off the top of my head. The HW div is fairly deep and growing deeper, IMO.

[Counter-puncher]

You put it rather more kindly than I would but god love you for an optimist

[Larrylefthook]

I don't get the appeal of heavyweights.

The current crop are generally unskilled, and even the ones who are skilled, they are light years behind the fighters at the lower weight classes.
Maybe it's because I'm also a big person, but I just don't get it.

There's all this hype behind heavies right now, and based on what? Wlad/Fury was one of the worst championship fights ever. Wilder's last fight looked like a middleweight prelim on FNF.

I just don't get it. People here hate Floyd and don't want to watch him, but are willing to watch Fury ... smh.

All this "heavyweight renaissance" shite is getting a touch annoying. Best thing you can do with most modern heavies is cut them in half & make two bantamweights out of the leftover raw materials.

But--apart from certain halcyon "golden eras"--I'd say that it was ever so. Down through the years, the best have rarely been the biggest.

& just look at Tony's response; using his "logic", the Spice Girls are one of the greatest gifts to music ever, 'cos they sold a lot of records. It's like watching heavyweights actually makes you stupider.

Please post more!

[pound per pound]

Yep todays heavies are crap, the lighter weights have never failed us

They often fail to meet each other. PAC vs Mayweather should have happend years ago.

And there are too many divisions and catch weights below middle.

The heavies now aren't very skilled, but I do thnk they want to fight each other.

[Undefeated49-0]

I don't get the appeal of heavyweights.

The current crop are generally unskilled, and even the ones who are skilled, they are light years behind the fighters at the lower weight classes.
Maybe it's because I'm also a big person, but I just don't get it.

There's all this hype behind heavies right now, and based on what? Wlad/Fury was one of the worst championship fights ever. Wilder's last fight looked like a middleweight prelim on FNF.

I just don't get it. People here hate Floyd and don't want to watch him, but are willing to watch Fury ... smh.

The only appeal is that at least we have some HWs trying to regenerate some interest in the division, it was great to see the classless Fury rain on Wilder's parade and garner some fanfare (albeit negative) and we all were applauding him beating boring Klitschko so we are just happy to see a regime change.

The good thing about the HWs which will make for some interesting fights is that thing you pointed out in the second part of your sentence. Sure they are light years behind the lower divisions but for the most part all of them are that way which should equal some greatly contested or equally contested fights.

With the exception of Ortiz and Jennings there are no really skilled HWs out there that we can say possess the type of technical fight we'd see without them facing one another, you put Ortiz against anyone in the division and he picks them apart and puts them to sleep. Jennings is capable of doing the same although he shows some vulnerability.

Joshua, Fury and Wilder all show some serious weaknesses in their game.

[Ricky_]

It's the least skilled division by a mile but the heavyweights will always be the most relevant. All the other champions are merely the best within a specific, limited weight range which all too often is finely tuned further by catchweights (which is rather embarrassing). The heavys will always be the top dogs.

[Blodhemn]

The HW division is being talked up again for containing loads of talent, and it just happens that there's a UK fighter at the top. Coincidence? All too predictable?

As bad as the HW's are, lets be honest, there aren't many divisions loaded with talent and skill. The entire sport is watered down and fractured with politics leading the way. Even some of the extreme talents like Rigo and Loma are being fed weasels while the powers that be shrug their shoulders, trying to figure out how to market them. You have the old promoters who are just happy riding out the last gen fighters, then the new ones who are happy flooding the market with poor talent. The sport isn't healthy as a whole - it's barely worth paying attention to.

[Tony1244]

I don't get the appeal of heavyweights.

The current crop are generally unskilled, and even the ones who are skilled, they are light years behind the fighters at the lower weight classes.
Maybe it's because I'm also a big person, but I just don't get it.

There's all this hype behind heavies right now, and based on what? Wlad/Fury was one of the worst championship fights ever. Wilder's last fight looked like a middleweight prelim on FNF.

I just don't get it. People here hate Floyd and don't want to watch him, but are willing to watch Fury ... smh.

All this "heavyweight renaissance" shite is getting a touch annoying. Best thing you can do with most modern heavies is cut them in half & make two bantamweights out of the leftover raw materials.

But--apart from certain halcyon "golden eras"--I'd say that it was ever so. Down through the years, the best have rarely been the biggest.

& just look at Tony's response; using his "logic", the Spice Girls are one of the greatest gifts to music ever, 'cos they sold a lot of records. It's like watching heavyweights actually makes you stupider.

HA HA. I can't name one song or member of The Spice Girls. Couldn't name you one top 40 song from the last 40 years. Virtually none of my favorite Dylan, Springsteen, or Petty favorites were ever singles, much less top 40.

Regarding Floyd vs Fury: I knew EXACTLY what would happen in a Floyd-Maidana and Floyd-Pacquiao fight. In a Fury fight I have no idea what's going to happen. I guess you could call it the suspense thing.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

and we all were applauding him beating boring Klitschko so we are just happy to see a regime change..

I'm not part of that all.

Did anyone actually see the fight?
You think that Fury is better than Wlad?

If your response is something stupid like "anything is better than Wald", save it.

If that fight was any indication as to how Fury will look against top fighters,
you'd have to be a total jackass to anticipate that.

[Larrylefthook]

and we all were applauding him beating boring Klitschko so we are just happy to see a regime change..

I'm not part of that all.

Did anyone actually see the fight?
You think that Fury is better than Wlad?

If your response is something stupid like "anything is better than Wald", save it.

If that fight was any indication as to how Fury will look against top fighters,
you'd have to be a total jackass to anticipate that.

So Wlad isn't a top fighter? Who are the top fighters in the HW division?

[BAD INTENTIONS]

and we all were applauding him beating boring Klitschko so we are just happy to see a regime change..

I'm not part of that all.

Did anyone actually see the fight?
You think that Fury is better than Wlad?

If your response is something stupid like "anything is better than Wald", save it.

If that fight was any indication as to how Fury will look against top fighters,
you'd have to be a total jackass to anticipate that.

So Wlad isn't a top fighter? Who are the top fighters in the HW division?

I think you missed what I was trying to say.

[campfire]

I don't get the appeal of heavyweights.

The current crop are generally unskilled, and even the ones who are skilled, they are light years behind the fighters at the lower weight classes.
Maybe it's because I'm also a big person, but I just don't get it.

There's all this hype behind heavies right now, and based on what? Wlad/Fury was one of the worst championship fights ever. Wilder's last fight looked like a middleweight prelim on FNF.

I just don't get it. People here hate Floyd and don't want to watch him, but are willing to watch Fury ... smh.

Most Heavyweight's have KO power some even have devastating power even down to club fighter's people love to see KO'S rather then some-one like Floyd who has virtually zero offence but unbelievable defence that is second to no-one in the history of the game it got boring watching Floyd and his shoulder roll[even though it was brilliant how he mastered it] just watch some of Floyds earlier fight's at the lower weight's and you'll see the difference between his offence then and now he was much more fan friendly to watch back then he was almost like the two Great Sugar Ray's.......Robinson/Leonard almost I said and we cannot blame any-one for being attracted back to the MOST PRIZED TITLE IN ANY SPORT ON THE PLANET BAR-NONE THE HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING THRONE....Wlad wouldn't leave Germany if you payed him Geeze he wouldn't be caught dead at a Deontay Wilder fight you getting the drift yet brother when the HEAVIE'S are being noticed BOXING is being noticed and right now its interesting............... People that don't even like Boxing will watch too see who is the most powerful man on the planet without a army or any weapon's to call on just two fist's........I love a brilliant boxer at any weight but I cannot wait to see who the King of the World will be........Is it Still Wlad can he bounce back like he always does or is Fury the real deal[he sure aint no Evander Holyfield] can the NZ Heavyweght King Parker become King of the World can The Big Olympic King Joshua do it we have a new IBF King who won't hide can Haye ruffle a few feather's etc etc etc stay tuned

[Larrylefthook]

I'm not part of that all.

Did anyone actually see the fight?
You think that Fury is better than Wlad?

If your response is something stupid like "anything is better than Wald", save it.

If that fight was any indication as to how Fury will look against top fighters,
you'd have to be a total jackass to anticipate that.

So Wlad isn't a top fighter? Who are the top fighters in the HW division?

I think you missed what I was trying to say.

Yeah I get you now, I agree too btw.

[littlepug]

The HW division is being talked up again for containing loads of talent, and it just happens that there's a UK fighter at the top. Coincidence? All too predictable?

As bad as the HW's are, lets be honest, there aren't many divisions loaded with talent and skill. The entire sport is watered down and fractured with politics leading the way. Even some of the extreme talents like Rigo and Loma are being fed weasels while the powers that be shrug their shoulders, trying to figure out how to market them. You have the old promoters who are just happy riding out the last gen fighters, then the new ones who are happy flooding the market with poor talent. The sport isn't healthy as a whole - it's barely worth paying attention to.

the sport is isnt doing so well in the states but seems to be thriving in the rest of the world, havent really paid attention to the heavyweights in recent years and that includes our own (brits) because however you dress it up there isnt any quality there, i aint gonna watch a fight just because the boxers are big blokes wheres the sense in that ? if its blood and guts, passion, desire and skills your after then anything below heavy will do the trick, and if you really dont want to watch the little guys you dont have to just dont try and pass yourself off as a boxing fan