George Groves vs. David Brophy - April 9th 2016

George Groves vs. David Brophy Winner and How?

Poll ended at 31 Jan 2016, 19:48

George Groves Stoppage
95
86%
George Groves Decision
5
5%
Draw
1
1%
David Brophy Decision
4
4%
David Brophy Stoppage
5
5%
 
Total votes: 110

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George Groves vs. David Brophy - April 9th 2016

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Eddie Hearn ‏@EddieHearn - 29 minutes ago

Delighted to add @StGeorgeGroves to the party on the huge April 9 night taking on 17-0 Scotland's @David_Brophy @SauerlandBros
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Re: Next For George Groves?

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Get him in with jamie cox eliminator for either WBA or WBO
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wesshaw1985 wrote:After stopping Di Luisa, who should be next on Groves radar?
Cant see him going straight into a title shot so another building fight, I'd go for Giovanni De Carolis for the WBA 'regular' Title...
Yes, that fight would give him a nice little title to defend against some British fighters.
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Horse wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:After stopping Di Luisa, who should be next on Groves radar?
Cant see him going straight into a title shot so another building fight, I'd go for Giovanni De Carolis for the WBA 'regular' Title...
Yes, that fight would give him a nice little title to defend against some British fighters.
Or a step toward Fedor Chudinov and the WBA Super Title.
Then onto unification fights with either Arthur Abraham or the Badou Jack and James DeGale rematches...
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I think Groves could beat Chudinov now. I don't think Groves is the fight he was but Chudinov is bang average although tough.
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Re: Next For George Groves?

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I clicked on Rohan Murdoch by mistake. I thought it said Rupert Murdoch. I f*cking hate that c*nt :D
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Taansend wrote:I clicked on Rohan Murdoch by mistake. I thought it said Rupert Murdoch. I f*cking hate that c*nt :D
Snap :lol:
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He should try and reverse the brutal defeat to "Male Pattern Baldness".
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no1man wrote:Get him in with jamie cox eliminator for either WBA or WBO
That'd be a good scrap.
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palooka wrote:That'd be a good scrap.
Cox doesn't deserve it.

He should give Sai a rematch.
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Horse wrote:
palooka wrote:That'd be a good scrap.
Cox doesn't deserve it.

He should give Sai a rematch.
That'd be in an ideal world though hasn't Cox moved up in weight?
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palooka wrote:That'd be in an ideal world though hasn't Cox moved up in weight?
Yes, but they should still try to make the fight.

If Sai says no then fair enough.
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George seems to be a stuck in a rut: he is not good enough to be world class, but he's better than domestic level & probably slightly better than European level, so where does he go?

There's no point in him knocking over any more corpses, as that doesn't prove anything, but I can't see him beating any trinket holders.

A rematch with DeGale is an obvious choice & I suppose DeGale would want to even the score, but I can't see Groves beating DeGale now.
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Syntax Error wrote:George seems to be a stuck in a rut: he is not good enough to be world class, but he's better than domestic level & probably slightly better than European level, so where does he go?
Groves is good enough for world class. He is world class.
Syntax Error wrote:There's no point in him knocking over any more corpses, as that doesn't prove anything, but I can't see him beating any trinket holders.
He could beat any of them. DeGale is the best trinket holder and he's already beaten him.
Syntax Error wrote:A rematch with DeGale is an obvious choice & I suppose DeGale would want to even the score, but I can't see Groves being DeGale now.
I can.
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He could beat any of them but has to deliver on the night, he's had 3 goes up to now and talent and promise have to be utilised on the night. Some of his interviews have shown he doesn't take responsibility for his performances and failures, he doesn't seem to have a realistic mind set.

George beat DeGale the best of the titlists but also lost to Jack, the worst.
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palooka wrote:He could beat any of them but has to deliver on the night, he's had 3 goes up to now and talent and promise have to be utilised on the night. Some of his interviews have shown he doesn't take responsibility for his performances and failures, he doesn't seem to have a realistic mind set.

George beat DeGale the best of the titlists but also lost to Jack, the worst.
He lost to Jack, but it was very close.

A lot of people refused to score any of the late rounds for Groves just because he was tired.

Being more of an underdog will probably help Groves mentally heading into another big fight.
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Horse wrote:
palooka wrote:He could beat any of them but has to deliver on the night, he's had 3 goes up to now and talent and promise have to be utilised on the night. Some of his interviews have shown he doesn't take responsibility for his performances and failures, he doesn't seem to have a realistic mind set.

George beat DeGale the best of the titlists but also lost to Jack, the worst.
He lost to Jack, but it was very close.

A lot of people refused to score any of the late rounds for Groves just because he was tired.

Being more of an underdog will probably help Groves mentally heading into another big fight.
Let's hope so, he can be a really exciting fighter to watch but he has to grab a title fight and give everything, he is a full time athlete so should be fit enough to go 12 rounds and experienced enough to know that if he gets dropped away from home he has to boss the rounds and impress the judges. He can't expect favours from the judges or to win easy - the man in front of him has dreams and aspirations as well.
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palooka wrote:Let's hope so, he can be a really exciting fighter to watch but he has to grab a title fight and give everything, he is a full time athlete so should be fit enough to go 12 rounds and experienced enough to know that if he gets dropped away from home he has to boss the rounds and impress the judges. He can't expect favours from the judges or to win easy - the man in front of him has dreams and aspirations as well.
Groves workrate was pretty decent even though he was huffing, puffing and looking sorry for himself in the late rounds against Jack.

Maybe he just has to work on his poker face.
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I'd like to see him fight Blackledge next, a up and coming British boxer with a lot to prove would give Groves a good challenge, not to mention get him fighting in front of a UK crowd again and the Commonwealth belt potentially that gives him a little more bargaining power down the line when he does get back into world contention.
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Horse wrote:
palooka wrote:Let's hope so, he can be a really exciting fighter to watch but he has to grab a title fight and give everything, he is a full time athlete so should be fit enough to go 12 rounds and experienced enough to know that if he gets dropped away from home he has to boss the rounds and impress the judges. He can't expect favours from the judges or to win easy - the man in front of him has dreams and aspirations as well.
Groves workrate was pretty decent even though he was huffing, puffing and looking sorry for himself in the late rounds against Jack.

Maybe he just has to work on his poker face.
Groves has poor stamina & that's why I believe it will be his undoing every time he steps up to world class level.
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Syntax Error wrote:
Horse wrote:
palooka wrote:Let's hope so, he can be a really exciting fighter to watch but he has to grab a title fight and give everything, he is a full time athlete so should be fit enough to go 12 rounds and experienced enough to know that if he gets dropped away from home he has to boss the rounds and impress the judges. He can't expect favours from the judges or to win easy - the man in front of him has dreams and aspirations as well.
Groves workrate was pretty decent even though he was huffing, puffing and looking sorry for himself in the late rounds against Jack.

Maybe he just has to work on his poker face.
Groves has poor stamina & that's why I believe it will be his undoing every time he steps up to world class level.
And not the greatest of chins it seems.
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Syntax Error wrote:Groves has poor stamina & that's why I believe it will be his undoing every time he steps up to world class level.
Groves vs Jack - Punch stats:

Jack: Punches thrown - 506. Punches connected 210. (42 %)
Groves: Punches thrown - 721 Punches connected 154 (21 %)

721 punches thrown isn't bad.
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Horse wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:Groves has poor stamina & that's why I believe it will be his undoing every time he steps up to world class level.
Groves vs Jack - Punch stats:

Jack: Punches thrown - 506. Punches connected 210. (42 %)
Groves: Punches thrown - 721 Punches connected 154 (21 %)

721 punches thrown isn't bad.
Not forgetting the shedload of punches he threw (1,000?) in the Rebrasse fight too.
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lefty wrote:This is pretty interesting http://www.BS.com/sauerlandgro ... or--100913
Very interesting, and actually Groves/Sauerland have a point there. Giving the number 7 ranked fighter a chance to fight for a shot at Jack is poor form if the number 3 ranked fighter is available.

Would love to see Callum v George.
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