Browne, did he or didnt he?

Browne and the PED accusations...

Knowingly taken them
52
42%
Slipped something after the fight
28
23%
Unknowingly been given a drink or supplement
43
35%
 
Total votes: 123

Wales
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Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Wales »

Shame that boxing is in such a state I have to ask peoples opinions on this, but....
Tarkus
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Tarkus »

He should be thankful it was not polonium-210 they slipped in his tea. :OhYes:
asdfjkl
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by asdfjkl »

Well his body clearly changed and indeed lost a lot of fat, so it makes sense for me he knew he did. Somehow I really didn't expect it from him.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Stuarty »

Tarkus wrote:He should be thankful it was not polonium-210 they slipped in his tea. :OhYes:
:lol:
Boxerbeetle
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Has a statement been released from the Browne camp yet? Silence on these issues isn't generally a good thing...
Looking On
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Looking On »

He may have knowingly taken something without knowing the ingredients etc.
wouldnt be the first to do so, and wouldnt make him any less guilty as its his responsibility to check,
But i think its a possibile scenario
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by johnswan1 »

Guilty.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Rexob »

Anywhere else but Russia maybe not guilty, in russia probably not guilty.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by wesshaw1985 »

Boxerbeetle wrote:Has a statement been released from the Browne camp yet? Silence on these issues isn't generally a good thing...
Lucas Browne ‏@bigdaddybrowne1 - 12hrs ago

I don’t understand today’s news, and I’m seeking legal advice...
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Post by SNG »

He can send a B sample can't he? So I guess wait and see.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Webbo911 »

Rexob wrote:Anywhere else but Russia maybe not guilty, in russia probably not guilty.
Not massively clued up about these situations but wasn't he independently tested by VADA?

Him coming in looking much trimmer than on previous occasions didn't ring alarm bells at the time but now i'm not so sure.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Nightmare Roy »

His brother did it! :stop:
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by SNG »

Nightmare Roy wrote:His brother did it! :stop:
If this fraternal horseplay carries on we're only going to get only childs entering the boxing world!
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Counter-puncher »

Nightmare Roy wrote:His brother did it! :stop:
:lol:
johnswan1
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by johnswan1 »

wesshaw1985 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Has a statement been released from the Browne camp yet? Silence on these issues isn't generally a good thing...
Lucas Browne ‏@bigdaddybrowne1 - 12hrs ago

I don’t understand today’s news, and I’m seeking legal advice...
Did he copy and paste that from Tarver's twitter feed from a few months ago when he was busted for a second time?
Boxerbeetle
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Boxerbeetle »

johnswan1 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Has a statement been released from the Browne camp yet? Silence on these issues isn't generally a good thing...
Lucas Browne ‏@bigdaddybrowne1 - 12hrs ago

I don’t understand today’s news, and I’m seeking legal advice...
Did he copy and paste that from Tarver's twitter feed from a few months ago when he was busted for a second time?
:lol:
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by MightyWarrior »

I imagine the Russians are mainly pissed off because Big Daddy took a larger dose than Chag
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by CharlesListon »

It's an out and out PED used for stripping and an improvement in oxygen levels. It's been around for years. I think it was originally used as a veterinary drug for improving the quality of bulls.

It isn't the type of thing that can accidently consumed in an energy or protein type drink.

It stays in your blood system for a long time. It'll be interesting to see what his levels were. I don't know how long it lasts in urine.
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Post by whiskey »

If he was on clen then they should check his signatures on any documents over there.

If it's just a huge scribble, then he would have been using it.

Bodybuilders in my old gym who took it and would be trembling so badly they could barely get their car key in the door to open it , then it would take them another 5 mins to put it in the ignition.

They would use it to retain muscle when getting lean before doing shows, but many would stop taking it after a week as the trembles were so bad they couldn't even send a text message. They struggled to sleep and they described it as having an entire jar of coffee in 30 mins. They said it left them weak.

It's popular with women nowadays, who want to stay lean.

Clen in animals has a completely different effect, it builds muscle etc but that isn't the case with humans. Like arsenic will kill you dead but a sheep can drink a gallon of it with no observable effect.

I'm sure others have a better handle on it, but the above was my observations. I can't see Clen being much use to Lucas.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by jameswilson »

Expe is currently taking time away from reading top secret KGB files to write up his dossier on this. He will be here to give us his findings in a few hours.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by bripez »

Looking On wrote:He may have knowingly taken something without knowing the ingredients etc.
I cannot believe that any top class athlete (in any sport) would do that.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by SteveDow »

Very disappointing news this. I had actually warmed to Browne a lot but it seems far-fetched to say something was slipped into his drink. How often does that genuinely happen even in countries like Russia?! Not often I'd wager.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by lefty »

jameswilson wrote:Expe is currently taking time away from reading top secret KGB files to write up his dossier on this. He will be here to give us his findings in a few hours.
:lol:
Bard of Boxrec
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by Bard of Boxrec »

Oh well. With his lack of skills he was never going to last long before being exposed, if he's guilty he probably figured it was worth the risk to give him a shot at a bum of the month tour in Australia before cashing in.
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Re: Browne, did he or didnt he?

Post by PredatorHayds »

I think he's guilty here to be honest.

In a weird way I can't see him getting spiked in Grozny. They have been so desperate to impress over there, judges going against home fighters , fighters in 5 star hotels I can't see them going out of there way to spike Browne.
Especially seeing what a long shot he was.
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