#1 Most Avoided In All of Boxing

[bnovelist]

It's gonna surprise many of you but here is my #1 pick & why. Ward wanted nothing to do with him & Golovkin wanted no part of him either. When-

ever you have super elite boxers like SOG Ward & GGG BOTH saying "I'll Pass" it's something to it. Ward would rather fight Kovalev who many feel

is a much bigger threat but REAL recognizes REAL this guy has the ability to make anyone look bad you WILL NOT have a great showing against

this dude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhukkBukIxo

[ikorolev]

His last two fights were Dirrell and Bute, and before that he didn't even have a belt. How is he being avoided ?

[bnovelist]

He has a ton of heart and seems to find a way to win. You know as well as I know they want no part of Degale.

[Taki...]

Avoided fighters are usually high risk; pretty good, low reward; little backing and little interest. So, pretty much anyone from Cuba.

[BitPlayer]

Charlie Zelenoff

[Deadendgeneration]

Avoided fighters are usually high risk; pretty good, low reward; little backing and little interest. So, pretty much anyone from Cuba.

Not just the Cubans but they are pretty high on any list of "who needs them?". Massive power punchers will always be avoided as well, especially if they're not from a country with a massive fan base.

[bnovelist]

Degale has a really good fanbase over in Europe. The problem is he's a gold medal winner and fights with passion, he fights like he is trying to be

an alltime great! You can tell the way he fights he's trying to one of the best to ever fight out of Europe! Degale is a problem. He can genuinely

fight and will go for the stoppage. Degale is dangerous. His style would give Ward fits!!!! He's rangy, changes up angles, can bang, switches up,

and has a very high workrate. Degale would push Andre Ward to the limit and would be a much harder fight than a Kovalev. Wards knows! Don't

think he doesn't know! I wonder what excuse GGG will constantly come up with avoiding Degale. I slept on Degale for quite awhile but now

I am recognizing how much of a problem the guy is style wise. He fights with that same energy and passion as Joe Calzaghe

[Taki...]

Degale has a really good fanbase over in Europe. The problem is he's a gold medal winner and fights with passion, he fights like he is trying to be

an alltime great! You can tell the way he fights he's trying to one of the best to ever fight out of Europe! Degale is a problem. He can genuinely

fight and will go for the stoppage. Degale is dangerous. His style would give Ward fits!!!! He's rangy, changes up angles, can bang, switches up,

and has a very high workrate. Degale would push Andre Ward to the limit and would be a much harder fight than a Kovalev. Wards knows! Don't

think he doesn't know! I wonder what excuse GGG will constantly come up with avoiding Degale. I slept on Degale for quite awhile but now

I am recognizing how much of a problem the guy is style wise. He fights with that same energy and passion as Joe Calzaghe

You're describing James Degale?
I like Degale, but he has faults. He absolutely is not a 12 round perpetual motion machine with more angles than Naseem Hamed.
Golovkin is chasing bigger fish, and I doubt Ward thinks Kovalev is less risky than Degale.

On a side note, you might be this forums first official Degale nuthugger. Makes a nice change from GGG and Wilder.

[brilo33]

Degale has a really good fanbase over in Europe. The problem is he's a gold medal winner and fights with passion, he fights like he is trying to be

an alltime great! You can tell the way he fights he's trying to one of the best to ever fight out of Europe! Degale is a problem. He can genuinely

fight and will go for the stoppage. Degale is dangerous. His style would give Ward fits!!!! He's rangy, changes up angles, can bang, switches up,

and has a very high workrate. Degale would push Andre Ward to the limit and would be a much harder fight than a Kovalev. Wards knows! Don't

think he doesn't know! I wonder what excuse GGG will constantly come up with avoiding Degale. I slept on Degale for quite awhile but now

I am recognizing how much of a problem the guy is style wise. He fights with that same energy and passion as Joe Calzaghe

iam a degale fan,dont agree . andre ward looked great on his come back i now doubt kovalev . i think calum smith will beat degale next year

[davie]

His last two fights were Dirrell and Bute, and before that he didn't even have a belt. How is he being avoided ?

That doesn't make any sense.

because he didn't have a belt he wasn't being avoided? If he wasn't being avoided maybe he'd have got a shot earlier, had a belt sooner.

Clearly, at that point, no title holder wanted any part of Chunky

He fought for the WBA International super middleweight title in his 7th and 8th fights, so he would have had some sort of ranking as early as that
Had the British by his 9th, the European and WBO Inter-Continental super middleweight title by his 12th, meaning he would have been ranked by 2 organisations by 2011, won the WBC Silver super middleweight title in his 15th fight and fight after fight was talked about as being an "eliminator"

I don't agree with the OP entirely, but people were avoiding him, people with titles were swerving Degale when he didn't have a title. I struggle to see the logic in say he didn't have a title so people can't have been ducking him. Those are exactly the type of fighter people duck. Once these guys have a title all of a sudden the Dirrell and Bute type contenders want a piece of the pie.

But non of the other title holders have been calling his name, none of the top guys in divisions above or below want to know. That's why he hasn't fought Jack, Abraham or Chudinov and why we're not likely to see him fight Ramirez, Sturm or De Carolis anytime soon.

He'll keep getting the guys like Bute, Dirrell and now whoever the fornicate Rogelio Medina is.

[digzee]

Degale has a really good fanbase over in Europe. The problem is he's a gold medal winner and fights with passion, he fights like he is trying to be

an alltime great! You can tell the way he fights he's trying to one of the best to ever fight out of Europe! Degale is a problem. He can genuinely

fight and will go for the stoppage. Degale is dangerous. His style would give Ward fits!!!! He's rangy, changes up angles, can bang, switches up,

and has a very high workrate. Degale would push Andre Ward to the limit and would be a much harder fight than a Kovalev. Wards knows! Don't

think he doesn't know! I wonder what excuse GGG will constantly come up with avoiding Degale. I slept on Degale for quite awhile but now

I am recognizing how much of a problem the guy is style wise. He fights with that same energy and passion as Joe Calzaghe

You're describing James Degale?
I like Degale, but he has faults. He absolutely is not a 12 round perpetual motion machine with more angles than Naseem Hamed.
Golovkin is chasing bigger fish, and I doubt Ward thinks Kovalev is less risky than Degale.

On a side note, you might be this forums first official Degale nuthugger. Makes a nice change from GGG and Wilder.

Rubbish he maybe chasing Canelo but in-between he's not testing himself and now he could fight Ramirez at 168!! (source http://www.BS.com/golovkins-pr ... 60--103548) DeGale is the man at 168 and called out GGG ages ago but his team said no because it wasn't a big money fight so not worth the risk (even though they complained others boxers ducked him for the same reason).

DeGale said he wants to go to 175 after he unifies against the Jack/Bute winner and fight Stevenson. If anyone says he is running from C. Smith don't bother because DeGale would absolutely school him.

[Boxing Prospect]

Jonathan Taconing.

[Horse]

Avoided fighters are usually high risk; pretty good, low reward; little backing and little interest. So, pretty much anyone from Cuba.

Cubans are not avoided.

They normally screw themselves over.

[Horse]

That doesn't make any sense.

because he didn't have a belt he wasn't being avoided? If he wasn't being avoided maybe he'd have got a shot earlier, had a belt sooner.

Clearly, at that point, no title holder wanted any part of Chunky

He fought for the WBA International super middleweight title in his 7th and 8th fights, so he would have had some sort of ranking as early as that
Had the British by his 9th, the European and WBO Inter-Continental super middleweight title by his 12th, meaning he would have been ranked by 2 organisations by 2011, won the WBC Silver super middleweight title in his 15th fight and fight after fight was talked about as being an "eliminator"

I don't agree with the OP entirely, but people were avoiding him, people with titles were swerving Degale when he didn't have a title. I struggle to see the logic in say he didn't have a title so people can't have been ducking him. Those are exactly the type of fighter people duck. Once these guys have a title all of a sudden the Dirrell and Bute type contenders want a piece of the pie.

But non of the other title holders have been calling his name, none of the top guys in divisions above or below want to know. That's why he hasn't fought Jack, Abraham or Chudinov and why we're not likely to see him fight Ramirez, Sturm or De Carolis anytime soon.

He'll keep getting the guys like Bute, Dirrell and now whoever the eff Rogelio Medina is.

DeGale isn't being avoided.

[Taki...]

Avoided fighters are usually high risk; pretty good, low reward; little backing and little interest. So, pretty much anyone from Cuba.

Cubans are not avoided.

They normally screw themselves over.

Yeah, they're lining up to fight Rigondeaux and Ortiz...

[Horse]

Yeah, they're lining up to fight Rigondeaux and Ortiz...

Ortiz is not avoided at all.

Rigondeaux's management and promotion is an absolute shambles.

Rigo is a proper spacker. He deserves no sympathy. Absolute prat!

[Taki...]

Degale has a really good fanbase over in Europe. The problem is he's a gold medal winner and fights with passion, he fights like he is trying to be

an alltime great! You can tell the way he fights he's trying to one of the best to ever fight out of Europe! Degale is a problem. He can genuinely

fight and will go for the stoppage. Degale is dangerous. His style would give Ward fits!!!! He's rangy, changes up angles, can bang, switches up,

and has a very high workrate. Degale would push Andre Ward to the limit and would be a much harder fight than a Kovalev. Wards knows! Don't

think he doesn't know! I wonder what excuse GGG will constantly come up with avoiding Degale. I slept on Degale for quite awhile but now

I am recognizing how much of a problem the guy is style wise. He fights with that same energy and passion as Joe Calzaghe

You're describing James Degale?
I like Degale, but he has faults. He absolutely is not a 12 round perpetual motion machine with more angles than Naseem Hamed.
Golovkin is chasing bigger fish, and I doubt Ward thinks Kovalev is less risky than Degale.

On a side note, you might be this forums first official Degale nuthugger. Makes a nice change from GGG and Wilder.

Rubbish he maybe chasing Canelo but in-between he's not testing himself and now he could fight Ramirez at 168!! (source http://www.BS.com/golovkins-pr ... 60--103548) DeGale is the man at 168 and called out GGG ages ago but his team said no because it wasn't a big money fight so not worth the risk (even though they complained others boxers ducked him for the same reason).

DeGale said he wants to go to 175 after he unifies against the Jack/Bute winner and fight Stevenson. If anyone says he is running from C. Smith don't bother because DeGale would absolutely school him.

Who exactly is there to test Golovkin at 160? Saunders, Eubank, Jacobs, Lee, Quillin, Cotto?
Debatable that any of those pose more of a test than Lemieux.
Clearly Golovkin is waiting for the bumper payday that Alvarez will bring. There are no big money fights at 168. And what kind of idiot would jump up 8lbs only to have to drop back to 160 to get the big money?
Degale is A man at 168, but what do you imagine he's done to be THE man? Lose to Groves? Look infinitely less impressive than Froch in beating an older version of Bute? Squeak by Dirrell?
And none of these fighters did he 'school'.
Blowing smoke up Degale's chocolate starfish doesn't change the facts.

[Taki...]

Yeah, they're lining up to fight Rigondeaux and Ortiz...

Ortiz is not avoided at all.

Rigondeaux's management and promotion is an absolute shambles.

Rigo is a proper spacker. He deserves no sympathy. Absolute prat!

Of course they're avoided. Everyone wanted to fight Mayweather because it was bank balance party time, despite the inevitable L on the record. No one wants to fight Rigo because they know the L pays peanuts. And Fury nicely summed up Ortiz's problems.
Rigo is a bigger knob than Floyd? Doubtful. If Rigo could bring the bucks no one would give a toss whether he was a prat or not.
Both qualify as high risk, low reward... Avoided.

[Horse]

Of course they're avoided. Everyone wanted to fight Mayweather because it was bank balance party time, despite the inevitable L on the record. No one wants to fight Rigo because they know the L pays peanuts. And Fury nicely summed up Ortiz's problems.
Rigo is a bigger knob than Floyd? Doubtful. If Rigo could bring the bucks no one would give a toss whether he was a prat or not.
Both qualify as high risk, low reward... Avoided.

Rigo is managed by a bunch of cowboys.

He is not avoided. He is a massive tosspot, who is destroying his own career.

Neither is avoided. Rigo is a moron and Ortiz has simply not been avoided yet.

[Taki...]

Of course they're avoided. Everyone wanted to fight Mayweather because it was bank balance party time, despite the inevitable L on the record. No one wants to fight Rigo because they know the L pays peanuts. And Fury nicely summed up Ortiz's problems.
Rigo is a bigger knob than Floyd? Doubtful. If Rigo could bring the bucks no one would give a toss whether he was a prat or not.
Both qualify as high risk, low reward... Avoided.

Rigo is managed by a bunch of cowboys.

He is not avoided. He is a massive tosspot, who is destroying his own career.

Neither is avoided. Rigo is a moron and Ortiz has simply not been avoided yet.

Rigondeaux is avoided because he doesn't bring the BIG $$$$. No other reason.
Why do you imagine Joshua got a shot at a title after 16 fights and Ortiz is still fighting nobodies?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
The only way either gets a title shot is through becoming a mandatory. FACT.

[Horse]

Rigondeaux is avoided because he doesn't bring the BIG $$$$. No other reason.
Why do you imagine Joshua got a shot at a title after 16 fights and Ortiz is still fighting nobodies?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
The only way either gets a title shot is through becoming a mandatory. FACT.

Rigondeaux recently ducked James Dickens. Absolute pussy move.

Who has ducked Ortiz? He's a drug cheat who seems to be able to find pretty decent opposition to fight to advance his ranking.

[Taki...]

Rigondeaux is avoided because he doesn't bring the BIG $$$$. No other reason.
Why do you imagine Joshua got a shot at a title after 16 fights and Ortiz is still fighting nobodies?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
The only way either gets a title shot is through becoming a mandatory. FACT.

Rigondeaux recently ducked James Dickens. Absolute pussy move.

Who has ducked Ortiz? He's a drug cheat who seems to be able to find pretty decent opposition to fight to advance his ranking.

Avoiding isn't the same as ducking. And since when has being a drug cheat been any kind of handicap to matchmaking in pro boxing?
If the money is there they do not not care -- about anything else whatsoever.

[Boxing Prospect]

Rigo ducked Wake.

[digzee]

You're describing James Degale?
I like Degale, but he has faults. He absolutely is not a 12 round perpetual motion machine with more angles than Naseem Hamed.
Golovkin is chasing bigger fish, and I doubt Ward thinks Kovalev is less risky than Degale.

On a side note, you might be this forums first official Degale nuthugger. Makes a nice change from GGG and Wilder.

Rubbish he maybe chasing Canelo but in-between he's not testing himself and now he could fight Ramirez at 168!! (source http://www.BS.com/golovkins-pr ... 60--103548) DeGale is the man at 168 and called out GGG ages ago but his team said no because it wasn't a big money fight so not worth the risk (even though they complained others boxers ducked him for the same reason).

DeGale said he wants to go to 175 after he unifies against the Jack/Bute winner and fight Stevenson. If anyone says he is running from C. Smith don't bother because DeGale would absolutely school him.

Who exactly is there to test Golovkin at 160? Saunders, Eubank, Jacobs, Lee, Quillin, Cotto?
Debatable that any of those pose more of a test than Lemieux.
Clearly Golovkin is waiting for the bumper payday that Alvarez will bring. There are no big money fights at 168. And what kind of idiot would jump up 8lbs only to have to drop back to 160 to get the big money? Did you not even read the link I set you? His team are doing exactly that! Said they will fight Zurdo then go back down
Degale is A man at 168, but what do you imagine he's done to be THE man? Lose to Groves? Look infinitely less impressive than Froch in beating an older version of Bute? Squeak by Dirrell?
And none of these fighters did he 'school'.
Blowing smoke up Degale's chocolate starfish doesn't change the facts.

Bute is a different kettle of fish fighting at home, also do you think Ali Oubaali is better then Danny Garcia just because he beat Theophane better then Garcia did?

[Taki...]

Rubbish he maybe chasing Canelo but in-between he's not testing himself and now he could fight Ramirez at 168!! (source http://www.BS.com/golovkins-pr ... 60--103548) DeGale is the man at 168 and called out GGG ages ago but his team said no because it wasn't a big money fight so not worth the risk (even though they complained others boxers ducked him for the same reason).

DeGale said he wants to go to 175 after he unifies against the Jack/Bute winner and fight Stevenson. If anyone says he is running from C. Smith don't bother because DeGale would absolutely school him.

Who exactly is there to test Golovkin at 160? Saunders, Eubank, Jacobs, Lee, Quillin, Cotto?
Debatable that any of those pose more of a test than Lemieux.
Clearly Golovkin is waiting for the bumper payday that Alvarez will bring. There are no big money fights at 168. And what kind of idiot would jump up 8lbs only to have to drop back to 160 to get the big money? Did you not even read the link I set you? His team are doing exactly that! Said they will fight Zurdo then go back down
Degale is A man at 168, but what do you imagine he's done to be THE man? Lose to Groves? Look infinitely less impressive than Froch in beating an older version of Bute? Squeak by Dirrell?
And none of these fighters did he 'school'.
Blowing smoke up Degale's chocolate starfish doesn't change the facts.

Bute is a different kettle of fish fighting at home, also do you think Ali Oubaali is better then Danny Garcia just because he beat Theophane better then Garcia did?

'His team are doing exactly that', says a bulletproof article on boxing scene. Why don't we see what actually happens, eh?

Bute's chin improves the further west he fights?
I expect Chunky would've knocked him cold had they fought in the UK.

Still not seeing an answer to the question; what has Degale done to become THE man at 168? Maybe my examples confused you as I was being sarcastic, so why not have another try at answering?