Amnat to me lost to Arroyo who just lost to Roman and he has terrible style his fight with Shimming was one of the worst fights I seen in a while.Therealjudge wrote:I'd personally love to see him fight Amnat Ruenroeng! I think he's probably the best Thai boxer boxer I've ever seen, real close to pac man, with a much more elusive style too, slightly more of the chess style boxer, but exciting with it! If you can think of a better fight for Gonzalez at the weight and why? I'd love to hear from you..
A real fight for chocolatito???
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Re: A real fight for chocolatito???
1. Juan Francisco Estrada II
2. Donnie Nietes
3. Amnat Ruenroeng
4. Kazuto Ioka
5. Moruti Mthalane
6. Moises Fuentes
Yes, Ruenroeng would be good, but he's not clearly the best opponent that Gonzalez could fight.
There are plenty of good opponents for him to face, before the need to consider moving up.
2. Donnie Nietes
3. Amnat Ruenroeng
4. Kazuto Ioka
5. Moruti Mthalane
6. Moises Fuentes
Yes, Ruenroeng would be good, but he's not clearly the best opponent that Gonzalez could fight.
There are plenty of good opponents for him to face, before the need to consider moving up.
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He really lost to ArroyoTherealjudge wrote:To be honest.. I was half suggesting a fighter that's also yet to taste defeat.. Should have mentioned it really.. I just think it adds that bit of spice..
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Re: A real fight for chocolatito???
Therealjudge wrote:I'd personally love to see him fight Amnat Ruenroeng! I think he's probably the best Thai boxer boxer I've ever seen, real close to pac man, with a much more elusive style too, slightly more of the chess style boxer, but exciting with it! If you can think of a better fight for Gonzalez at the weight and why? I'd love to hear from you..
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Re: A real fight for chocolatito???
I've seen most of Amnat's pro fights...and I can only assume we've been watching a different Amnat...or you've not seen many Thai's.... And exciting? Really?Therealjudge wrote:I'd personally love to see him fight Amnat Ruenroeng! I think he's probably the best Thai boxer boxer I've ever seen, real close to pac man, with a much more elusive style too, slightly more of the chess style boxer, but exciting with it! If you can think of a better fight for Gonzalez at the weight and why? I'd love to hear from you..
In saying that, he is a good opponent for Roman due to his size and sheer bloody awkwardness
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He struggled past Arroyo and Fuentes, put on a stinker vs Shiming, showed judo skills vs Casimero, won clearly (though not in a great fight) again the "How did you get a title shot" Lee.
If beating Shiming is the best you have to go on (personally thought he looked better at times vs Ioka and Casimero-though showed his dirty side in both bouts) then it's not great. Shiming would likely lose to any top 20 Flyweight (and plenty outside of the top 20 like Zoda, Nagamine, Alvarez).
You're right lots of Thai's do pad their records but to compare Amnat to the likes of Payakaroon, the Galaxy twins, Yodsanan, Wonjongkam, Sahaprom, Kingpetch, Eagle Den, Poonsawat, Venice Borkhorsor, the Porpaoin twins, Poonsawat, Sasakul, Saen Sor Ploenchit etc....eurgh
If beating Shiming is the best you have to go on (personally thought he looked better at times vs Ioka and Casimero-though showed his dirty side in both bouts) then it's not great. Shiming would likely lose to any top 20 Flyweight (and plenty outside of the top 20 like Zoda, Nagamine, Alvarez).
You're right lots of Thai's do pad their records but to compare Amnat to the likes of Payakaroon, the Galaxy twins, Yodsanan, Wonjongkam, Sahaprom, Kingpetch, Eagle Den, Poonsawat, Venice Borkhorsor, the Porpaoin twins, Poonsawat, Sasakul, Saen Sor Ploenchit etc....eurgh
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I wouldn't mind seeing Gonzalez/Ruenroeng, but I also think Ruenroeng is the most vulnerable of the titlists at 112. He doesn't have much mileage on him, but he's still 36 years old. I think Ioka would beat him in a rematch.
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Inoue is the one that I would like to see him fight. Let's see what he can do when he can't just walk down and bully his opponent.
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style matchup for tv Amnat is terrible. Estrada 2 for me is the play.
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Is Inoue willing to come down to flyweight?Baby Face Finster wrote:Inoue is the one that I would like to see him fight. Let's see what he can do when he can't just walk down and bully his opponent.
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Re: A real fight for chocolatito???
No, but Roman has spoke about moving up with Cuadras's name being linked to him a lot and Kono's, earlier this year.Horse wrote:Is Inoue willing to come down to flyweight?Baby Face Finster wrote:Inoue is the one that I would like to see him fight. Let's see what he can do when he can't just walk down and bully his opponent.
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He shouldn't move up, he's got too much to do at flyweight.Boxing Prospect wrote:No, but Roman has spoke about moving up with Cuadras's name being linked to him a lot and Kono's, earlier this year.
I can't stand all of this weight jumping crap.
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He cleaned out flyweight Anmat isn't a crediable opponent who really lost to Arroyo and he already beat Viloria, Estrada what else is really there?Horse wrote:He shouldn't move up, he's got too much to do at flyweight.Boxing Prospect wrote:No, but Roman has spoke about moving up with Cuadras's name being linked to him a lot and Kono's, earlier this year.
I can't stand all of this weight jumping crap.
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Re: A real fight for chocolatito???
I think Estrada, Ioka, and Ruenroeng are all worthy opponents. He doesn't have to beat all 3 but at least showing dominance over one or two of them before moving up would be nice.
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He beat Estrada 3.5 years ago at light flyweight. He hasn't cleaned out the division at all.world ranked wrote:He cleaned out flyweight Anmat isn't a crediable opponent who really lost to Arroyo and he already beat Viloria, Estrada what else is really there?
How about fighting this lot?
1. Juan Francisco Estrada II - WBA/WBO
2. Donnie Nietes - Ring/WBO (light flyweight)
3. Amnat Ruenroeng - IBF
4. Kazuto Ioka - WBA Regular
5. Moruti Mthalane
6. Moises Fuentes
Gonzalez only has the WBC title of the main four ABC belts. Why doesn't he unify?
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World Boxing Council @WBCBoxing 2h2 hours ago
Carlos Cuadras: Probably, my next fight would be against Roman Gonzalez.
Carlos Cuadras: Probably, my next fight would be against Roman Gonzalez.
Re: A real fight for chocolatito???
I'd be very happy with that.ikorolev wrote:World Boxing Council @WBCBoxing 2h2 hours ago
Carlos Cuadras: Probably, my next fight would be against Roman Gonzalez.
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is Roenrueng the guy that learned to box and turned pro whilst in prison ?
Re: A real fight for chocolatito???
I really hope he stays at Flyweight for a couple more contests: Estrada should be tops, then Ruenroeng (preferably) or Ioka.
If he wishes to move up then Cuadras would be my choice to set up a huge unification fight with Inoue.
Cheers
Col/T.M.K
If he wishes to move up then Cuadras would be my choice to set up a huge unification fight with Inoue.
Cheers
Col/T.M.K
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Re: A real fight for chocolatito???
Estrada fight is a rematch I'd love to see.
Really hope HBO put him on a undercard and build it into a superfight.
Ruenroeng is a tough fella to beat. But you'd expect the elite in the division to outpoint him. He'd stand in front of Chocolito and that's one thing you shouldn't do.
Really hope HBO put him on a undercard and build it into a superfight.
Ruenroeng is a tough fella to beat. But you'd expect the elite in the division to outpoint him. He'd stand in front of Chocolito and that's one thing you shouldn't do.
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Nietes has done what at 112. Amnat I don't know how many times or people keep bringing him he lost to Arroyo and got the decision. TheHorse wrote:He beat Estrada 3.5 years ago at light flyweight. He hasn't cleaned out the division at all.world ranked wrote:He cleaned out flyweight Anmat isn't a crediable opponent who really lost to Arroyo and he already beat Viloria, Estrada what else is really there?
How about fighting this lot?
1. Juan Francisco Estrada II - WBA/WBO
2. Donnie Nietes - Ring/WBO (light flyweight)
3. Amnat Ruenroeng - IBF
4. Kazuto Ioka - WBA Regular
5. Moruti Mthalane
6. Moises Fuentes
Gonzalez only has the WBC title of the main four ABC belts. Why doesn't he unify?
same Arroyo Roman dominated.Ioka team has claimed he not ready for Roman. Mthalane is the IBO world tour. The Estrada fight is the only thing there and he already beat him. The division is bare 115 vs Cuadros is the play.