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Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 14:35
by rd350lc
Can't remember the last time I saw a heavyweight actually get stopped with a bodyshot .

Last nights fights on Sky showed Chisora throwing bodyshots in the clinches and Pulev laughing and sticking his tongue out

On the other side of the coin you had Crolla stopping his opponent with a nice bodyshot ( as usually is the way with the lighter weights and is a much used punch in their armoury )

I wondered why this is that you don't see many heavies stopped with a cracking bodypunch ?

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 14:50
by ElJefe
Think it's more a case of heavyweights just throwing less body shots than fighters at lighter weights. Very few of them are comfortable fighting up close to their opponent these days. I'm sure the likes of Tyson folded a few with hooks to the body.

Not having to make weight probably plays a part as well, their bodies are more natural if that makes sense, compared to Barroso who looked very dry at the weigh in on Friday. When you're losing a lot of weight before a fight, a lot of it will come off the stomach and rib sort of areas, I imagine that makes you quite susceptible to being hurt with hard body shots. Heavyweights don't really have that problem to the same extent.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 14:53
by Controversial
Cooney stopped Lyle with a bodyshot

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 14:59
by ShadrachSimmo
Didn't David price stop McDermott with body shots?

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 15:00
by ShadrachSimmo
Or was that Fury?

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 15:00
by Boxerbeetle
Fury stopped Rogan with a body shot.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 15:11
by rd350lc
Ah , the not making weight bit makes perfect sense , hadn't thought of that one :TU:

Can't remember there being a heavyweight really noted for being a McCallum style " bodysnatcher" in modern times and that could be the reason why ,

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 16:23
by Noxy
Boxerbeetle wrote:Fury stopped Rogan with a body shot.
And Belshaw, folded him in two

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 16:39
by jameswilson
Think I remember Konstantin Airich getting stopped with a body shot in a fight. Audley Harrison stopped a few guys with body shots. Obviously this is all at a pretty low level.

I did comment last night that I thought the Body shots Del was throwing constantly in the clinches must have been hurting like fornicate after a while.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 16:47
by Old bones Ian
Going back quite a few years Bob Fitzsimmons stopped James Corbett with his famous solar plexus punch.
Although this was for the heavyweight championship Fitzsimmons weighed 167Lbs and Corbett 184Lbs.

I seem to remember Julius Francis getting stopped by body shots against John Ruiz and Željko Mavrović.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 08 May 2016, 17:00
by reggaereggae
I thought it was a good post and question until you break it down...

There are 17 recognised weight divisions (at least.)

So, in an equal sense, you could ask "why are there no more stoppages by body shots in the super fly division? Which won't be considered of course

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 09 May 2016, 05:57
by MightyWarrior
Joe Frazier's famous quote was kill the body and the head will die

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 00:47
by asdfjkl
Francesca Pianeta got KOed in the first round by a bodyshot, Chagaev did it more often if I remember it correct. I also heard Tyson Fury gives a lot more bodyshots as avarage, probably because his opponends have an open body trying to reach his head, so he probably has some bodyshot KOs as well.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 02:23
by fizzjambo
Toney stopped Holyfield with bodyshots effectively. I know Don Turner called it off but it was bodyshots that had dropped and hurt Evander

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 02:32
by fizzjambo
Senior vs Sprott, Bruno vs Frazier, Fields vs Airch, Tyson dropped Frazier with one, and Tubbs I think, Fury vs Belshaw.

Tua, Cooney, Sanders, Joe Frazier were all good body punchers

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 03:05
by Supremo
Been answered before but basically heavies are taller so less adept, willing to fight at close range. They have higher levels of body fat so more protection. They throw less punches and body shots are usually the last punch in a combination so they are less likely to throw them.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 06:14
by Coco
fizzjambo wrote:Senior vs Sprott, Bruno vs Frazier, Fields vs Airch, Tyson dropped Frazier with one, and Tubbs I think, Fury vs Belshaw.

Tua, Cooney, Sanders, Joe Frazier were all good body punchers
Tyson V Tubbs was a great shot, Tubbs was doing ok until then if memory serves! If going to try and find it now.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 11:44
by Dixonian
Matt Skelton struggled with body shots at the tailed of his career - I think Pulev felled him that way.

Skelton also used to the body shot to good effect himself, mind you. I remember him shattering the ribcage of Mark Krence. Krence quit on his stool, causing widespread boos from the crowd. Skelton took the microphone and told them to have some respect, instructing them to turn their boos into applause.

Krence had taken the fight a short notice after a late pullout from Danny Williams. Always respected Skelton after that.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 11:46
by Dixonian
asdfjkl wrote:Francesca Pianeta got KOed in the first round by a bodyshot, Chagaev did it more often if I remember it correct. I also heard Tyson Fury gives a lot more bodyshots as avarage, probably because his opponends have an open body trying to reach his head, so he probably has some bodyshot KOs as well.
Fury's one of the few tall heavies willing and prepared to fight on the inside. Audley used to have some classy inside skills on the seldom occasions he used them.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 12:15
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Chuvalo was a fighter who threw a lot of body shots, I think with heavyweights, it is usually that they fight at a slower pace, less punches thrown therefore, slowing down the engine might not be seen as a priority unlike it might be in the lighter weights.

Cooney was a vicious bodypuncher. If you can bend them in like he could when he was a pro, that is something in your arsenal.

Joe Frazier as well, oooff... :bow:

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 13:15
by BitPlayer
Heavies don't throw them enough. I remember T. Fury stopping a tall low level fighter with one.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 10 May 2016, 13:50
by rd350lc
BitPlayer wrote:Heavies don't throw them enough. I remember T. Fury stopping a tall low level fighter with one.
that's my point , I reckon it's a punch that's not used enough , just wondered why it seemed like more of the old school used to use it more ?

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 18 May 2016, 15:44
by Verdi
Albeit against nobodies, but Briggs has stopped a few of his recent fights on bodyshots.

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 18 May 2016, 16:08
by Boxerbeetle
Dixonian wrote:Skelton also used to the body shot to good effect himself, mind you. I remember him shattering the ribcage of Mark Krence. Krence quit on his stool, causing widespread boos from the crowd. Skelton took the microphone and told them to have some respect, instructing them to turn their boos into applause.

Krence had taken the fight a short notice after a late pullout from Danny Williams. Always respected Skelton after that.
I remember that night well - didn't the tv cameras follow a mean and moody looking Krence into the dressing room before the fight, only for the door to close behind him to clearly display the 'Female Changing Room' sign :lol:

Re: Do heavyweights get stopped on bodyshots ?

Posted: 18 May 2016, 16:19
by Counter-puncher
BitPlayer wrote:Heavies don't throw them enough. I remember T. Fury stopping a tall low level fighter with one.
Scott belshaw, I was ringside, he folded in two like a deckchair every time fury touched him to the body