How to prospects (and Keith Thurman) survive financially between fights

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Luckybattles
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How to prospects (and Keith Thurman) survive financially between fights

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I don't know how these guys do it. Ive been in boxing several year and worked with guys that range from amateurs to world champs. For the most part these guys don't get paid for not fighting. They may get rent paid at some 2 star hotel and maybe a couple hundred bucks but that's about it. And that's only if they are a world champion level prospects. If they are not, then they are basically fighting for free... and that's only if they can get on a card, which most times they cant unless they are well connected. I don't even know how someone like Keith Thurman makes it. I'm sure he is hard up for money though. Even if he gets a nice check once a year, probably 30% will go to his manager, 30% to taxes, 10% to his trainer, and any other fees and expenses. I guarantee it Most these guys are crashing on sofas, training most of the day, and doing whatever they can to make $100 between fights.
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Most of Wilder's title defences have been against semi amateures. A teacher, a post delivery mailbox maker and a hooligan I thought who spended some time in prison, so he didn't need to pay for his food and a roof above his head.
If you look at AJ's, or Klitschko's opponends, then they were often pro boxers actually.
GalenBadBoyBrown
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I would imagine there promoter would give them a salary on that level when I was at the top of my game years back I got $3000 a month to just train. I would imagine they would get something if not there getting the shaft because Keith Thurman is in a level that I never was at but good question I want to know also. I ain't a top prospect but I work at a title boxing club as a full time trainer, and were I live can survive comfortably but I also live in a town were it is cheap to live in most fighters live in big city's were it cost more. I like the topic hopefully we can get some fighters or promoters to right back on here.
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asdfjkl wrote:Most of Wilder's title defences have been against semi amateures. A teacher, a post delivery mailbox maker and a hooligan I thought who spended some time in prison, so he didn't need to pay for his food and a roof above his head.
If you look at AJ's, or Klitschko's opponends, then they were often pro boxers actually.
How Wilder connected to the topic???

Go to your doctor - obsession is kind of illness...
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No real money in boxing...even top 50-100 boxers earns peanuts and have constant risks of injuries.

Just compare to top 50-100 NBA or NFL guys...long term contracts for M$, injured or healthy :brick:

Even top HW, fighting twice a year for 250,000-400,000 $, earns less than basketball player in European leagues :doh:
scallum2015
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Prospect get stipends monthly
littlepug
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when i boxed you had to either get a "real" job or sign on to suppliment your ring earnings, only way you could survive, probably different for top prospects
Luckybattles
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bigman1968 wrote:No real money in boxing...even top 50-100 boxers earns peanuts and have constant risks of injuries.

Just compare to top 50-100 NBA or NFL guys...long term contracts for M$, injured or healthy :brick:

Even top HW, fighting twice a year for 250,000-400,000 $, earns less than basketball player in European leagues :doh:

You won't believe it but about 2 years ago I worked with a light heavyweight that was ranked in top 10 by at least 1 organization who fought about 2 x a year. For fighting a cagey experienced veteran in a relatively small non televised venue he earned about 5 thousand dollars.
asdfjkl
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bigman1968 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Most of Wilder's title defences have been against semi amateures. A teacher, a post delivery mailbox maker and a hooligan I thought who spended some time in prison, so he didn't need to pay for his food and a roof above his head.
If you look at AJ's, or Klitschko's opponends, then they were often pro boxers actually.
How Wilder connected to the topic???

Go to your doctor - obsession is kind of illness...
Haha, his recent behaviour makes me annoyed indeed, and I'll admit, I feel a bit sad by it.
For the first time in all those years I finally didn't feel disappointed by him when he said he was planning to fight nobody else as Povetkin and then he came up with this genius troll manouvre. There is no boxer out there that disappointed me harder as Wilder has. Either way, his opponends were perfect examples of how to survive in between fights by making money out of the ring and not in the ring.
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Luckybattles wrote: You won't believe it but about 2 years ago I worked with a light heavyweight that was ranked in top 10 by at least 1 organization who fought about 2 x a year. For fighting a cagey experienced veteran in a relatively small non televised venue he earned about 5 thousand dollars.
and out of that he paid training expenses, trainer, corner, manager, annual license, taxes, etc.
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If you can get a sponsor on board that usually covers your expenses e.g travel and accomadation if you train away from home.
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Luckybattles wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:No real money in boxing...even top 50-100 boxers earns peanuts and have constant risks of injuries.

Just compare to top 50-100 NBA or NFL guys...long term contracts for M$, injured or healthy :brick:

Even top HW, fighting twice a year for 250,000-400,000 $, earns less than basketball player in European leagues :doh:

You won't believe it but about 2 years ago I worked with a light heavyweight that was ranked in top 10 by at least 1 organization who fought about 2 x a year. For fighting a cagey experienced veteran in a relatively small non televised venue he earned about 5 thousand dollars.
Damn he got ripped by his peoples. No name guys , some with losing records are receiving 5k and more for 6 and 8 round fights
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Post by G.McClellan »

I know from reading an article about Mr F Warren. Frank said Calzaghe's career earnings were £9m.
Hall of Fame and legendary fighter Roberto Duran was reportedly paid $300,000 in his last fight at 50 years old against some no mark opponent.

I forget the fighter's name, but he held a belt and said in an interview (probably with Boxing Monthly as I love that publication) that "we might criticise these alphabet titles. But I found having one means an extra $100k for a fighter."

Different scenarios and degrees of popularity. Popularity easily being the deciding factor on how much a fighter earns.
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