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Zou Shiming

Posted: 11 Jun 2016, 23:38
by diddy
This dude blows.

That's all.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 13 Jun 2016, 15:35
by PredatorHayds
To be fair his opponent ran more than anyone I've seen in years.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 13 Jun 2016, 15:42
by crusader
His style is completely suited to the amateurs and he has virtually no power in his shots.

He needs to be matched very carefully in order not to suffer another loss, and I think winning a couple rounds against Ruenroeng may be the best thing he ever does professionally.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 13 Jun 2016, 16:25
by handsofstone
PredatorHayds wrote:To be fair his opponent ran more than anyone I've seen in years.
Not half,although Andrew Selby done him in 2

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 04:02
by Boxing Prospect
Anyone imagine Zoda or Higa not stopping Ajtai?
Says it all...

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 14 Jun 2016, 04:06
by handsofstone
Ajtai never exposed it but for someone with the amateur credentials of Shiming,his defence is terrible,im not sure if he's trying to hard to become a "pro" and he's just too long in the tooth to change and doesnt have the firepower to really sit down on his shots

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 15 Jun 2016, 18:03
by Cutman Scabbers
crusader wrote:His style is completely suited to the amateurs and he has virtually no power in his shots.

He needs to be matched very carefully in order not to suffer another loss, and I think winning a couple rounds against Ruenroeng may be the best thing he ever does professionally.

I sure hope not. Putting him in against Ruenroeng was all wrong for him.

He needs to get in there with guys opposite to him -- squat, wide bangers -- not similar.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 15 Jun 2016, 23:48
by MachoTime
I was wondering what happened to Shiming. Last I remembered Shiming was promoted by Arum. Fought on HBO for a little bit then disappeared.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 06:19
by olij999
I thought he lost the London 2012 final, to be honest, so was not expecting great things as a pro.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 20:41
by Cutman Scabbers
MachoTime wrote:I was wondering what happened to Shiming. Last I remembered Shiming was promoted by Arum. Fought on HBO for a little bit then disappeared.

He's still with Top Rank, isn't he?

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 18 Jun 2016, 01:38
by Wales
olij999 wrote:I thought he lost the London 2012 final, to be honest, so was not expecting great things as a pro.
His amateur achievments are absolutely outstanding. Bronze in Athens, gold in 2008 and London 2012. Add to that 3 gold medals in the world's!

As someone already said his style is suited to the ams, plus 35 is pretty old for a flyweight!

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 18 Jun 2016, 01:41
by gilgamesh
Wales wrote:
olij999 wrote:I thought he lost the London 2012 final, to be honest, so was not expecting great things as a pro.
His amateur achievments are absolutely outstanding. Bronze in Athens, gold in 2008 and London 2012. Add to that 3 gold medals in the world's!

As someone already said his style is suited to the ams, plus 35 is pretty old for a flyweight!
Yeah his styles seems to be TOO suited to the Ams. He can't quite get over the hurdle as a Pro. He's a skilled fighter no doubt, but I don't know if he'll ever become a World Champion...and yes 35 is ancient by Flyweight standards.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 18 Jun 2016, 05:03
by Stuarty
I agree with the OP. Have never enjoyed watching him at all.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 19 Jun 2016, 06:10
by olij999
Wales wrote:
olij999 wrote:I thought he lost the London 2012 final, to be honest, so was not expecting great things as a pro.
His amateur achievments are absolutely outstanding. Bronze in Athens, gold in 2008 and London 2012. Add to that 3 gold medals in the world's!

As someone already said his style is suited to the ams, plus 35 is pretty old for a flyweight!
I agree his amateur achievements are outstanding, but that doesn't change the point that (in my view) he got the decision in the London 2012 final because of who he was rather than what he did, in that particular case. To me, he was clearly second best in that fight.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 22 Jun 2016, 01:29
by jewboypgh
I seen him on HBO and he laid a big general tso's egg.
There some amateurs in Pittsburgh that would prob whip his ass

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 22 Jun 2016, 23:31
by Wales
olij999 wrote:
Wales wrote:
olij999 wrote:I thought he lost the London 2012 final, to be honest, so was not expecting great things as a pro.
His amateur achievments are absolutely outstanding. Bronze in Athens, gold in 2008 and London 2012. Add to that 3 gold medals in the world's!

As someone already said his style is suited to the ams, plus 35 is pretty old for a flyweight!
I agree his amateur achievements are outstanding, but that doesn't change the point that (in my view) he got the decision in the London 2012 final because of who he was rather than what he did, in that particular case. To me, he was clearly second best in that fight.
never gets mentioned but there was some awful judging in the boxing at the London olympics. Joshua is prime example. Almost everyone had Savon beating him, and would he have got the nod in the final if he wasn't from UK? Debatable.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 00:11
by Cent0089
Yes he is overrated, but at least he can enjoy professional boxing career after lot of time in amateurs. And propagation of boxing in China is also good. Let him be :box:

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 04:19
by olij999
Wales wrote:
olij999 wrote:
Wales wrote:
His amateur achievments are absolutely outstanding. Bronze in Athens, gold in 2008 and London 2012. Add to that 3 gold medals in the world's!

As someone already said his style is suited to the ams, plus 35 is pretty old for a flyweight!
I agree his amateur achievements are outstanding, but that doesn't change the point that (in my view) he got the decision in the London 2012 final because of who he was rather than what he did, in that particular case. To me, he was clearly second best in that fight.
never gets mentioned but there was some awful judging in the boxing at the London olympics. Joshua is prime example. Almost everyone had Savon beating him, and would he have got the nod in the final if he wasn't from UK? Debatable.
I agree 100%. The only reason why I have no real issue with Joshua getting gold despite possibly three squeaky decisions is that Britons have been denied medals plenty of times in past Olympics through judging far worse (e.g. Minter in 1972, to take just one example). So I rather think several wrongs make a few rights, but I know that is rubbish logic!

Frankly, I admire the way Joshua always seems to be in the right place at the right time - London 2012 so he gets a gold that would have been less likely had the Olympics not been in London (i.e. it would only have taken one squeaky decision to go against him), then a heavyweight title shot against one of the weakest heavyweight belt holders since the WBC, WBA and IBF came into being. But good luck to him.

Re: Zou Shiming

Posted: 27 Jun 2016, 08:08
by handsofstone
Kal Yafai KO'd Ajtai in a round on saturday