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Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 06:25
by SteveO
According to the latest WBA rankings, Ruslan Chagaev has become the WBA 'Regular' champion.
It seems his loss to Lucas Browne has been overturned. I don't remember reading anything about that - very strange.
I mean, I know about Browne being stripped of the belt and banned for 6 months, but I didn't know Chagaev had been awarded the title!
http://www.wbanews.com/wba-ranking#.V2J9hb3mctE
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 08:05
by Bard of Boxrec
Just another alphabet soup 'make it up as we go along' ruling I guess.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 09:07
by Tony1244
This is how Chagaev wins them.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 09:53
by jujigatame
The result still stands in the BoxRec ratings. I still hope to see Browne on TV again. It was a great fight and a great comeback.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 10:26
by littlepug
Will it go down on their records as a NC then ?
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 12:21
by crusader
Can't wait for the Oquendo rematch

Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 12:32
by wouter
He's now a 3-time champion, the-modern day Muhammad Ali.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 13:03
by asdfjkl
Well, if that's true I hope he will fight Ortiz soon.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 15:49
by boxing_rocks
What about Sturm's positive test ? WBA still has the cheater as the champ.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 17:17
by funso banjo baby
boxrec dsnt even list Larry holmes v Marvis frazier as a title fight ??????
but the alphabets are a bunch of turdy plop plops
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 19:19
by Lackeos
As soon as Chagaev attempts to unify, the WBA are going to strip him and make Valuev champion again.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 20:01
by GhostBoxing15
crusader wrote:Can't wait for the Oquendo rematch

Can't see Oquendo going to Chechnya, this fight may have to be on neutral turf after past events
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 20:03
by GhostBoxing15
boxing_rocks wrote:What about Sturm's positive test ? WBA still has the cheater as the champ.
if anyone gets off a Positive it would be Sturm, has been WBA protected species for a decade
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 21:03
by ClivePatrickLyons
boxing_rocks wrote:What about Sturm's positive test ? WBA still has the cheater as the champ.

Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 21:20
by Perseus
littlepug wrote:Will it go down on their records as a NC then ?
Only if the commission overturns it.
The sanctioning body can do anything they want with its belt regardless of official results. They can keep boxers from fighting for their belts and ratings but only the commissions can issue a suspension that actually keeps boxers out of the ring.
If the commission has not declared the fight a NC then it is still an official win for Browne regardless of the WBA ruling.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 21:34
by boxing_rocks
Perseus wrote:littlepug wrote:Will it go down on their records as a NC then ?
Only if the commission overturns it.
The sanctioning body can do anything they want with its belt regardless of official results. They can keep boxers from fighting for their belts and ratings but only the commissions can issue a suspension that actually keeps boxers out of the ring.
If the commission has not declared the fight a NC then it is still an official win for Browne regardless of the WBA ruling.
Are there any doubts that the Chechen/Russian commission will overturn it?
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 16 Jun 2016, 21:36
by boxing_rocks
GhostBoxing15 wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:What about Sturm's positive test ? WBA still has the cheater as the champ.
if anyone gets off a Positive it would be Sturm, has been WBA protected species for a decade
He wasn't a WBA champion for many years until the robbery against Chudinov.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 05:59
by man
so the number 29 of the boxrec heavy weight
list holds the title which muhammad ali held.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 06:30
by Like a Boss
jujigatame wrote:The result still stands in the BoxRec ratings...
Hard to understand how that can be the case. Perhaps Boxrec are just waiting for the right authority to notify them of a change?
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 07:23
by PredatorHayds
wouter wrote:He's now a 3-time champion, the-modern day Muhammad Ali.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 07:56
by Loki
I don't believe Lucas doped. I don't know 100%, but Russia is dodgy as hell and he seems genuine.
I do feel for Browne, I think he was railroaded.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 08:47
by man
wouter wrote:He's now a 3-time champion, the-modern day Muhammad Ali.

Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 09:02
by the_doctor
Why do they need an "Interim" Champion (Ortiz) when we've already got a Regular Champion (Chagaev)
and a Unified Champion (Fury)
Only thing that makes sense it to have Ortiz vs. Chagaev as soon as possible.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 10:15
by jujigatame
Loki wrote:I don't believe Lucas doped. I don't know 100%, but Russia is dodgy as hell and he seems genuine.
I do feel for Browne, I think he was railroaded.
It does help his case that he tested negative 6 days before the fight. It doesn't make sense that he would suddenly take a bunch of steroids only a few days from the fight. The cost/benefit analysis just isn't there.
Re: Chagaev Champion Again
Posted: 17 Jun 2016, 10:33
by GhostBoxing15
jujigatame wrote:Loki wrote:I don't believe Lucas doped. I don't know 100%, but Russia is dodgy as hell and he seems genuine.
I do feel for Browne, I think he was railroaded.
It does help his case that he tested negative 6 days before the fight. It doesn't make sense that he would suddenly take a bunch of steroids only a few days from the fight. The cost/benefit analysis just isn't there.
Sturm tested negative to Pre fight testing, Your theory would see Sturm innocent