Tyson Was Truly The Last Great Heavyweight

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Tyson Was Truly The Last Great Heavyweight

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Even on his comeback trail he was frightening! Why can't they make em like Tyson anymore! Louis, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, and Tyson.

These are the legendary heavyweights! But Tyson is the most recent. Tyson the recent extremely IMPRESSIVE heavyweight! Marciano wouldnt have known what hit him lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db7rfLA906Y
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I'm sure even Mike Tyson says there are better heavyweights since him.
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BitPlayer wrote:I'm sure even Mike Tyson says there are better heavyweights since him.
true, although none of them made the same kind of impact on the sport like tyson did, god i miss him :bow:
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Do you count Holyfield and Lewis as "since" him? If not, then no, there has not been anyone else as good as him.
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BitPlayer wrote:I'm sure even Mike Tyson says there are better heavyweights since him.
Maybe maybe not, Holyfield great fighter but other than beating an old Tyson his heavyweight career was a bit up and down lost 2 out 3 to Bowe went one each with moorer a lose and a draw with Lewis, Lennox lost twice while in his prime to fighters that shouldn't of had a chance and then there's vitali and wlad I'd pick Tyson over wlad early KO and vitali might be to big and tough or to slow I'm not sure.
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thelawisanass wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:I'm sure even Mike Tyson says there are better heavyweights since him.
Maybe maybe not, Holyfield great fighter but other than beating an old Tyson his heavyweight career was a bit up and down lost 2 out 3 to Bowe went one each with moorer a lose and a draw with Lewis, Lennox lost twice while in his prime to fighters that shouldn't of had a chance and then there's vitali and wlad I'd pick Tyson over wlad early KO and vitali might be to big and tough or to slow I'm not sure.
Lewis and Holyfield are greater heavyweights than Tyson and better at their peak IMO. Vitali vs Tyson is an intriguing matchup, Tyson knocks out Wlad.
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Tyson was the best Heavyweight who got knocked out 5 times...

He was the best Heavyweight with a leaky defense who got beaten to trash by a 42-1 underdog...

He was the best Heavyweight with short arms and a small bod that allowed Douglas, Lewis, and Holyfield (who were all older than Tyson) to hit him at will

As soon as Tyson fought somebody who was bigger, taller, faster, stronger, smarter, better conditioned, and better prepared, he got beaten...

A lot of Heavyweights around today meet those requirements -- starting with Joshua and Ortiz who would both murder Tyson like those other guys did...
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What you resort to when you can't get your brain around historical facts that don't jive with your fantasies.
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:zzz:
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Counter-puncher wrote::zzz:
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bnovelist wrote:Even on his comeback trail he was frightening! Why can't they make em like Tyson anymore! Louis, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, and Tyson.

These are the legendary heavyweights! But Tyson is the most recent. Tyson the recent extremely IMPRESSIVE heavyweight! Marciano wouldnt have known what hit him lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db7rfLA906Y

Before he fought Tyson, Tillman was knocked out by Dwain Bonds, a really terrible Heavyweight with more losses than wins... So you have to consider the opponent... Tillman is listed as a Cruiserweight... In his previous fight Tyson fought a real Heavyweight, a 42-1 underdog, and got knocked out.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Image

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is that dude holding a basketball?

seems like he had some kind of talent in the prizefighting arena then, I guess.
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Look at the muscular definition on the man who haunted Wilt's dreams. Making Wilt his bitch wasn't his only claim to fame, he once hopped on a pogo stick for 24 hours demonstrating that not only was he the greatest Boxer in the NBA, but an all world athlete.
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Counter-puncher wrote:is that dude holding a basketball?

seems like he had some kind of talent in the prizefighting arena then, I guess.
That, sir, is Clyde Lovelette. The uncrowned Heavyweight champion of the NBA.
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really? shit, i figured he'd be a black dude, being named Clyde and all.
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did Wilt ever say 'left turn, Clyde' to him? that would be some funny shit.
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Counter-puncher wrote:really? poo, i figured he'd be a black dude, being named Clyde and all.
The one and only.
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Counter-puncher wrote:did Wilt ever say 'left turn, Clyde' to him? that would be some funny poo.
Wilt knew better than to speak to him.
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That was a College Freshman photo... Not his developed NBA physique... Wilt took him out in one second when they squared off to fight..

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showth ... p?t=169172

1964... "Rudolph and Strom officiated another notable game in the 1964 NBA Finals. [18] In Game 5 of the championship series, Wilt Chamberlain, playing for the San Francisco Warriors, knocked out Clyde Lovellette of the Boston Celtics with a punch. [4] Celtics head coach Red Auerbach stormed onto the court and demanded that Chamberlain be thrown out of the game. [4] The latter told Auerbach if he did not "shut up", he would be knocked down to the floor with Lovellette. [4] Auerbach countered the threat, "Why don't you pick on somebody your own size." Rudolph intervened the discussion and told Auerbach, "Red, do you have any other seven-footers who'd like to volunteer?"
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so Wilt got owned by some dude who looks like some Mormon hayseed-looking cousin of Jerry Lewis?

what an embarassment
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i tell you what would be really fascinating, I wonder what Red Auerbach's reaction to a fight between Wilt and lovelette would be?

I would just about shit a kidney if someone could uncover such a gem of information, that would really complete the picture.
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Kalan wrote:That was a College Freshman photo... Not his developed NBA physique... Wilt took him out in one second when they squared off to fight..

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showth ... p?t=169172

1964... "Rudolph and Strom officiated another notable game in the 1964 NBA Finals. [18] In Game 5 of the championship series, Wilt Chamberlain, playing for the San Francisco Warriors, knocked out Clyde Lovellette of the Boston Celtics with a punch. [4] Celtics head coach Red Auerbach stormed onto the court and demanded that Chamberlain be thrown out of the game. [4] The latter told Auerbach if he did not "shut up", he would be knocked down to the floor with Lovellette. [4] Auerbach countered the threat, "Why don't you pick on somebody your own size." Rudolph intervened the discussion and told Auerbach, "Red, do you have any other seven-footers who'd like to volunteer?"
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