BBC: Tyson Fury faces UK Anti-Doping charge

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BBC: Tyson Fury faces UK Anti-Doping charge

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Tyson Fury: World heavyweight champion faces UK Anti-Doping charge

http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/36970816

He's now been officially charged.
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Well I guess that rules out a rematch happening anytime soon. This the last thing the heavyweight division needs. I guess there will be no fight this year. Wlad gets older by the day and one has to wonder how Fury will be affected by this. Its conceivable we will go a whole calendar year without a heavyweight title fight has that ever happened in peace time.
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Klee Gluckman wrote:Well I guess that rules out a rematch happening anytime soon. This the last thing the heavyweight division needs. I guess there will be no fight this year. Wlad gets older by the day and one has to wonder how Fury will be affected by this. Its conceivable we will go a whole calendar year without a heavyweight title fight has that ever happened in peace time.
Sad but true.
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I think UKAD have done the right thing by lifting the provisional ban. They’ve taken a long time to issue the formal statement, even though the rumours have been rife for well over a month now.

The fact that UKAD have taken such a long time to determine that there was a “presence of a prohibited substance”, does make me think that they have performed their due diligence, suggesting that it may be quite challenging for Fury to avoid some form punishment.

I hope I’m wrong though. If he has been caught “cheating”, then surely the Klitschko bout will be declared a “no contest”, with Wladimir regaining his WBO & WBA titles.

What would happen to Anthony Joshua’s IBF belt though – assuming Klitschko shouldn’t have lost it in the first place?
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Enlightened-One wrote:I think UKAD have done the right thing by lifting the provisional ban. They’ve taken a long time to issue the formal statement, even though the rumours have been rife for well over a month now.

The fact that UKAD have taken such a long time to determine that there was a “presence of a prohibited substance”, does make me think that they have performed their due diligence, suggesting that it may be quite challenging for Fury to avoid some form punishment.

I hope I’m wrong though. If he has been caught “cheating”, then surely the Klitschko bout will be declared a “no contest”, with Wladimir regaining his WBO & WBA titles.

What would happen to Anthony Joshua’s IBF belt though – assuming Klitschko shouldn’t have lost it in the first place?
It was far closer to the Hammer fight though.
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Why has it taken so long to charge a positive test from jan 2015??
I saw in an interview fury say that he thinks EVERYONE is on drugs, especially vlad. He's probably right.
This really does leave the division in a mess again. The champ - a (potential) steroid cheat - the (reinstated champ?) a 40 year old man who cant pull the trigger, and some young(er) guns going around with belts with hollow records.
I'm afraid fury will still be the man until someone beats him now.
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BitPlayer wrote:It was far closer to the Hammer fight though.
Yeah, you’re right.

If he was guilty of taking anabolic steroids before the Hammer fight, then does only the outcome of that bout get overturned?

Surely Klitschko would feel aggrieved if an alledged “cheat” was allowed to keep his world titles?
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I don't understand the fury camps argument. He had drugs in his system February... Fact. .. They are saying that subsequent tests were clear....?? That's because the drugs were flushed out of his system by then....I don't get it??? :o
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I'm sick of this drug testing crap. It has been completely politicized, these gangster run alphabet things and their WADA, and the ripoff of WADA, VADA, run by Doctor (look up the reviews of the bitch online by her patients) Margaret Goodman and the Las Vegas mob - Ne-VADA, get it? I'd like to see drugs legalized because all the boxers with the expensive advisers and doctors don't get caught and aren't even targeted in the first place. They just banned the entire Russian Olympic team from their Brazil Olympics for petes sake, including all the athletes who never even touched a vitamin pill - they were all lucky actually. I'd want to stay far away from that place and even plenty of Brazilians say the same. The exception should be those who are obviously grossly abusing drugs, like the crazy bodybuilders you see, or wrasslers, tho wrasslin has toned down the drug abuse.
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another nail in the coffin of the heavyweight division, havent really been into the heavies since the 90s but for those that are this must relly suck
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Duh ...

This sudden surge of champions was brought about by hard work? :lol:

You guys are doing it the same way everyone else is doing it ...
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Duh ...

This sudden surge of champions was brought about by hard work? :lol:

You guys are doing it the same way everyone else is doing it ...
Most of it was done with magement really.
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x2x wrote:I'm sick of this drug testing crap. It has been completely politicized, these gangster run alphabet things and their WADA, and the ripoff of WADA, VADA, run by Doctor (look up the reviews of the bitch online by her patients) Margaret Goodman and the Las Vegas mob - Ne-VADA, get it? I'd like to see drugs legalized because all the boxers with the expensive advisers and doctors don't get caught and aren't even targeted in the first place. They just banned the entire Russian Olympic team from their Brazil Olympics for petes sake, including all the athletes who never even touched a vitamin pill - they were all lucky actually. I'd want to stay far away from that place and even plenty of Brazilians say the same. The exception should be those who are obviously grossly abusing drugs, like the crazy bodybuilders you see, or wrasslers, tho wrasslin has toned down the drug abuse.
What a load of utter gibberish, typical moronic conspiracy theory nonsense. Russia has 274 participants at the games, still one of the largest squads of any nation at the games. They didn't ban every single competitor, only those from sports that were found to be doping, and even then not all of them.
In fact 70% of the original squad are competing, so don't talk rubbish.

If you legalise the drugs, then the pressure on athletes to pump themselves full of every possible performance enhancer available will be huge. The Soviet athletes, especially the women from the 1980's paid a huge price for the state sponsored doping, many had to have sex changes because of the permanent changes from taking male hormones

Many of these performance enhancing drugs have side effects that are not even well understood yet, they could cause cancers, neurological damage, all kinds of unknown consequences, and you think that this should be allowed to go on, even encouraged by the fact it is not regulated.

If you are going to make exceptions, then it would be no different to now, there are substances that enhance performance which are allowed (caffeine for one), and some which are not. You can't say 'legalise all drugs' and then say, no wait, we prescribing some, because then you're back to square one, with some people cheating and taking masking agents.
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"Russia has 274 participants at the games"


I thought all the Russians were banned. I'm not following it at all except reading about the olympic athletes getting mugged, olympic overpasses falling down, polluted water etc.

"If you legalise the drugs, then the pressure on athletes to pump themselves full of every possible performance enhancer available will be huge."


I don't know if it can be huger than it is now. Drugs of one kind or another, some legal some illegal some in between and some are even good for your health, and they're all over pro athletes now, and not just pros but college and high school and probably elementary school too. Some you can buy in the health food store in one country and it's illegal in another. Some your friendly doctor can prescribe for you. In some sports or quasi sports, like wrestling, it is illegal but just look at it! It's like "the war on drugs". yeah right, who are they kidding. All kinds of drugs were legal up until the first third of the twentieth century in the US - you could walk down to the corner drug store and buy cocaine or heroin just the same as sugar or salt - and the drug problem is infinitely worse now than it was then.

My problem with it in boxing and other sports now is it is being enforced selectively and politically.
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If PED’s are legalised, not only will there be long-term health implications for the athletes using them, but it also removes the possibility of a level playing field, because wealth would allow certain established fighters to use “superior” drugs than their fiscally inferior rivals could, which would make the sport much more dangerous for those that are at a physical disadvantage.

There are a lot more implications that I could propose, but I suppose I’ve covered the most serious consequence.
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