Suprise Suprise Hatton - Harris in trouble

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 26 Jul 2004, 12:05

fightnews

NEWS FLASH
Harris-Hatton in trouble!
Negotiations for a WBA title showdown between champion Vivian Harris and unbeaten Ricky Hatton have hit a snag. According to Main Events, financial terms with Hatton's promoter allegedly had been reached for a Fall bout. However, late last week Warren informed Main Events that he was cutting the agreed upon financial number by 25%. "Obviously, this is unacceptable to Harris and Main Events," stated spokesman Donald Tremblay, "and I can’t imagine Hatton would be very happy if he learned that his world title opportunity was being adversely manipulated by his reps."

J · Post by J » 26 Jul 2004, 12:07

oh gor crying out loud here we go.
mind you stuff thats been spouting from Vicious Vivien andhios camp of late theres probably two sides to the story. But then agian there always is.

Ill be gutted if this fight doesnt happen.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 26 Jul 2004, 12:10

i think the fight will have to happen because of hatton WBA ranking. just Hatton wont be getting that much when Harris get the percentage for purse bids.

J · Post by J » 26 Jul 2004, 12:12

would purse bids mean also that its not gaurenteed at the M.E.N.? (scuse my ignorance on these issues)
if thats the case this could all come back and bite hatton right in the arse.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 26 Jul 2004, 12:16

Purse bids will likely mean it still goes to Manchester, because no-one can afford to bid on this fight like Warren can.
Harris, good fighter that he is, cannot pull the crowds in. That's why he has to go to Europe to make cash.

Frank is going to have to find the money somewhere - he's drinking in the last chance saloon, as far as Hatton is concerned.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 26 Jul 2004, 12:17

depends what promoter wins the fight. lets say if don king wins it (but he wont bid as harris isnt his fighter), he could have the fight on the undercard of mayorga - trinidad i think. someone tell me if i am wrong. basically who wins it can hold the fight where they want.

J · Post by J » 26 Jul 2004, 12:19

thanks M.W. well maybe it wont then (cause hatton too much distress).

Mind you I dont think any of us expected this to be plain sailing did we, I mean ten weeks as you said quite rightly to me when I got over excited, is a long time.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 26 Jul 2004, 12:24

Yes I think we're still in the negotiating, bluff and counter bluff stage.

Team Harris are going to use every trick in the book to get their man his due, more so as he's going to the other guy's backyard, and they know Hatton has demanded the fight too

Frank has some work ahead of him by the sounds of it.

I still think it'll come off, only cause both fighters appear to genuinely want it - and will force their promoters to throw the bullshit out the window and get on with making the bloody fight ( I hope ).

Then again, one person who could out bid Warren is King - sometimes, he seems to bid for fights just for the hell of it.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 26 Jul 2004, 13:45

Oh what a surprise, Warren failing to deliver on one of his promises again.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 26 Jul 2004, 13:45

MightyWarrior wrote:Then again, one person who could out bid Warren is King - sometimes, he seems to bid for fights just for the hell of it.

yeah he won the purse bids on jones-tarver and he didn't promote either man

king is loaded no one beats him in a purse bid

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 26 Jul 2004, 16:46

Maybe Ricky refused to take a cut of his own purse and Frank cut Harris's purse to try and fund Rickys. fornicating bullshit if thats the case. You would really have to question Rickys desire then.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 26 Jul 2004, 18:06

I'm still confident it will happen, its got to for Harries or he may face being stripped. He's the champion proper now.

Is the WBA #2 contendor any decent? I don't think he'll be needed, Hatton sounded confident yesterday.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 26 Jul 2004, 18:11

Harris wont get stripped. Fight will go to purse bids. If could be come to SN not being able ot bid on the fight.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 26 Jul 2004, 18:14

REAL_DEAL wrote:Harris wont get stripped. Fight will go to purse bids. If could be come to SN not being able ot bid on the fight.

i'd love to c that happen

cos i guarantee don king would win it

that would piss franky boy off

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 26 Jul 2004, 18:23

its the corput WBA belt. If zoo comes back they will make him the WBA super champion just like when roy jones jr came back to fight tarver for the 2nd time. so there will be 2 WBA champs. how gay.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 26 Jul 2004, 18:27

REAL_DEAL wrote:its the corput WBA belt. If zoo comes back they will make him the WBA super champion just like when roy jones jr came back to fight tarver for the 2nd time. so there will be 2 WBA champs. how gay.

i thought the wba had actually stripped zoo fully of the wba

that would be a crazy move to give him back his super tag if he were to come back and beat mitchell.

zoo should never have been stripped in the first place. he's been injured hence the reason he hasn't fulfilled his mandatories. at least give him 3 months after the michell fght to fulfill it.

neil r · Post by **neil r** » 26 Jul 2004, 18:56

REAL_DEAL wrote:fightnews

NEWS FLASH
Harris-Hatton in trouble!
Negotiations for a WBA title showdown between champion Vivian Harris and unbeaten Ricky Hatton have hit a snag. According to Main Events, financial terms with Hatton's promoter allegedly had been reached for a Fall bout. However, late last week Warren informed Main Events that he was cutting the agreed upon financial number by 25%. "Obviously, this is unacceptable to Harris and Main Events," stated spokesman Donald Tremblay, "and I can’t imagine Hatton would be very happy if he learned that his world title opportunity was being adversely manipulated by his reps."

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As auntie cilla used to sing... "surprise surprise, the unextpected hits you between the eyes, the unpredictable, thats the surpri-i-i-i-se

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 26 Jul 2004, 21:32

neil r wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:fightnews

NEWS FLASH
Harris-Hatton in trouble!
Negotiations for a WBA title showdown between champion Vivian Harris and unbeaten Ricky Hatton have hit a snag. According to Main Events, financial terms with Hatton's promoter allegedly had been reached for a Fall bout. However, late last week Warren informed Main Events that he was cutting the agreed upon financial number by 25%. "Obviously, this is unacceptable to Harris and Main Events," stated spokesman Donald Tremblay, "and I can’t imagine Hatton would be very happy if he learned that his world title opportunity was being adversely manipulated by his reps."
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As auntie cilla used to sing... "surprise surprise, the unextpected hits you between the eyes, the unpredictable, thats the surpri-i-i-i-se

i used to dread the bit when she started singing cos that would mean my bedtime ready for school on a monday morning.

Steudle · Post by **Steudle** » 27 Jul 2004, 02:16

Another Twist from fightnews:
Harris Hires Steward!
After reaching a financial settlement and agreeing to part ways with his former manager Shelly Finkel weeks ago, Fightnews has learned that WBA jr. welterweight champ ‘Vicious' Vivian Harris (24-1-1; 16 KO's) has hired famed trainer Emanuel Steward as his coach and manager. Harris is expected to begin training camp at Steward's fabled Kronk Gym in Detroit next week in order to prepare for his fight against Ricky ‘The Hitman' Hatton (36-0; 26 KO's) sometime in the Fall. While the Harris vs. Hatton showdown (that was expected to take place on October 2nd ) teeters on uncertainty, Steward is working diligently to bring the fight to Detroit, instead of Hatton's hometown of Manchester, England. Harris told Fightnews, "I'm really happy to be working with Manny. I know he'll be looking out for my best interests and I look forward to a great career with him."

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 27 Jul 2004, 03:44

Bollacks.

I was on a call with Kathy Duva last night, they said they hoped to Manny Steward on the line too. And I was sitting there thinking, WHY?

Now I know. Feel a total cock, I basically blanked Manny Steward. Brilliant.

Oh well you live and learn.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 27 Jul 2004, 04:37

If it goes to purse bids Hatton gets 25% to Harris' 75%.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 27 Jul 2004, 04:58

Hmm, Manny Stewart eh, well I am not as enthusiastic about hearing Stewart has been appointed as I once was, he's spread thinner than Bobby Charlton's hair these days.

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 27 Jul 2004, 05:00

Is it just me or is having ES in your corner more of a liability these days than a benefit? He seems to be more concerned to be a cheerleader for hire than a serious trainer. Now he is working for Harris, hatton will be a bum. Sometime down the line, he will be working for Hatton who will suddenly become " a world class fighter"

As for the fight, I certainly wont be buying a ticket and will believe it happens when the first bell rings. I have no faith in any of the parties concerned

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 27 Jul 2004, 05:11

Slapsie Maxie wrote:Is it just me or is having ES in your corner more of a liability these days than a benefit? He seems to be more concerned to be a cheerleader for hire than a serious trainer. Now he is working for Harris, hatton will be a bum. Sometime down the line, he will be working for Hatton who will suddenly become " a world class fighter"

As for the fight, I certainly wont be buying a ticket and will believe it happens when the first bell rings. I have no faith in any of the parties concerned

Steward seems a nice guy, but I think he talks a lot of rubbish. He make similar statements to Frank Maloney.

J · Post by J » 27 Jul 2004, 05:12

Slapsie Maxie wrote:Is it just me or is having ES in your corner more of a liability these days than a benefit? He seems to be more concerned to be a cheerleader for hire than a serious trainer. Now he is working for Harris, hatton will be a bum. Sometime down the line, he will be working for Hatton who will suddenly become " a world class fighter"

As for the fight, I certainly wont be buying a ticket and will believe it happens when the first bell rings. I have no faith in any of the parties concerned

exactly, I used to have alot of respect for Steward but for some time he has become something of a trainers equivilant to Judas, swapping camps at the drop of a hat. It particualrly wrankled when he called Lennox a coward for not fighting vitali again when he went to K's camp before being dumped.
Truly unbelievalbe that uyou can have an association with a boxer for years then say that after going on record saying he shoudl stay retired.
Blokes a boxing prostitute!!! Good trainer or not.
I knwo everyone bangs on about roach being the best but for me its Buddy Mcgirt not that I know eff all, but he just seems to talk the most sense and have the optiumum fight strategies.

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