GGG vs Hagler/Monzon etc

[cfang]

GGG is clearly exceptional. Hits like a train, great balance, wonderful movement cutting off the ring etc but he's defo there to be hit. How does he do against boxers that will hit him much much harder than anyone he's faced. Meaning Hagler, Monzon etc. How does he react when Hagler for example stands in front of him, isn't scared and nails him right back...with interest.

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[littlepug]

Wow hagler would be a great fight, think I would give the edge to hagler at the minute threading those straight punches straight down the middle, plus hagler had a quite tight defence which would see him through on points in a classic

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I think Hagler is too slick for him, Monzon would be very interesting. You still have to favor Carlos on his far superior opposition, but GGG is a live dog there.

[dr_devious]

I'd favour Hagler and Monzon over GGG, both on points. GGG hasn't fought or beaten any fighters of this calibre but he'd be a live contender against anyone

[BoxBuzz]

Exactly the kind of Fight Monzon would love....and probably want a rematch win or lose.

[Syntax Error]

If ever a boxer was born at the wrong time, it is Golovkin.

I wish he was born in 1953 instead of 1983!

A fight with Hagler would have been tremendous.

Both have titanium chins; Golovkin has the edge in power, although Hagler was no slouch in that department; Golovkin has a good skillset, but I think Hagler had the edge in skills.

Hard fought fight with Hagler winning a UD.

Monzon is another one I would tip to win, but again, not without breaking sweat.

Monzon would be much bigger than what Golovkin is used to & couple in Monzon's superior experience, I would tip him to prevail too.

I don't think this fight would be quite as exciting as a Hagler one, but it would be high quality nonetheless

[ClivePatrickLyons]

I'd favour Hagler to give GGG a belting and stop him in 10..............Monzon un dec

[Ezzard]

I doubt the fights would be classics. Golovkin would not roll forward as he does now but would box and box and box.

The Hagler fight would be razor thin and disputed whoever got the verdict. Marvin's opposition means you have to give him the edge. At least on paper.

Monzon would probably prefer this kind of fight and would win by 2 or 3.

[cfang]

Good posts guys. I do favour both oldies against gig but agree - it'd be tough for both of them. I think it says a hell of a lot for gig that without being in one super fight or beating one tag - he's given at least a live chance of beating 2 of the greatest middles of all time.

[cfang]

i see greb beating ggg too. he was in with lt heavys who could punch like tunney etc so he could handle the power and win another close decision.

[Bodyshot3]

I think the fact that GGG now gets mentioned alongside Hagler is testament to how highly he is now perceived.

Not sure how the fights goes to be honest, afterall it could arguably be Hagler who gets the mother of all shocks when GGG quickly steps-in and unloads some rocks.

Marvin had a good track record against the serious hitters like Mugabi and Hearns but it could also be argued that GGG would have been more measured than Tommy was and that Mugabi was also a tad wild and lacked the ability to stalk like Golvokin.

I am guessing Hagler 'just' gets it but after having endured something above and beyond anything he's had to face before. Hagler was mentally and physically as tough as they come and he's perhaps the one guy you could make a case for in terms of getting hit by GGG without imploding.

Of course, the fun and seriously explosive scenario is Hagler putting it on GGG from the start; there's one boss in this ring and it's me!

[Esquire]

Golovkin would need to tighten up his defense against these two. I would think Hagler would hit him at will and be slick enough to avoid most of the return fire. I see Hagler stopping Golovkin in the late rounds.

Being 50 years old makes Monzon a bit before my time.

[JC]

If ever a boxer was born at the wrong time, it is Golovkin.

I wish he was born in 1953 instead of 1983!

If he'd been born in '53 we'd have never got to see him fight professional at all...

[cfang]

If ever a boxer was born at the wrong time, it is Golovkin.

I wish he was born in 1953 instead of 1983!

If he'd been born in '53 we'd have never got to see him fight professional at all...

good point indeed

[elmersalsa]

Great matchups. I think the great Carlos Monzon beats GGG by UD. Marvelous would have beaten GGG by UD also.

[Syntax Error]

If ever a boxer was born at the wrong time, it is Golovkin.

I wish he was born in 1953 instead of 1983!

If he'd been born in '53 we'd have never got to see him fight professional at all...

Depends how old you are.

If he was born in '53, he would have been around at the same time as the Big 4.

Providing he was box office, he would have been in the mix & there might have been a big 5.

[Tom Moore]

If ever a boxer was born at the wrong time, it is Golovkin.

I wish he was born in 1953 instead of 1983!

If he'd been born in '53 we'd have never got to see him fight professional at all...

Depends how old you are.

If he was born in '53, he would have been around at the same time as the Big 4.

Providing he was box office, he would have been in the mix & there might have been a big 5.

Think he's getting at he'd have been stuck in the Russian amateur system and never got out.

[Syntax Error]

If he'd been born in '53 we'd have never got to see him fight professional at all...

Depends how old you are.

If he was born in '53, he would have been around at the same time as the Big 4.

Providing he was box office, he would have been in the mix & there might have been a big 5.

Think he's getting at he'd have been stuck in the Russian amateur system and never got out.

Oh, I get you.

I forgot all about the Soviet Union.

[bbjc]

Easy win for hagler. What people need to remember is hagler had a 75 inch reach to golovkins 70 inches. Thats a five inch advantage. You d find golovkins boxing wouldnt be quite as effective against hagler. And he wouldnt outfight him either. Hagler would stick it on him and outlast him.

[Syntax Error]

Easy win for hagler. What people need to remember is hagler had a 75 inch reach to golovkins 70 inches. Thats a five inch advantage. You d find golovkins boxing wouldnt be quite as effective against hagler. And he wouldnt outfight him either. Hagler would stick it on him and outlast him.

Good point.

Hagler has arms like tentacles.

I remeber Alan Minter, who was quite a bit taller than Hagler saying as much about Marvin.

I agree that might have been a major factor.

[JC]

Depends how old you are.

If he was born in '53, he would have been around at the same time as the Big 4.

Providing he was box office, he would have been in the mix & there might have been a big 5.

Think he's getting at he'd have been stuck in the Russian amateur system and never got out.

Oh, I get you.

I forgot all about the Soviet Union.

Happens to the best of us Comrade

[elmersalsa]

Has GGG been tested? I mean, has he ever had any trouble in a fight? Has someone taken him to the limit of his boxing prowess?

[Tomasino]

Has GGG been tested? I mean, has he ever had any trouble in a fight? Has someone taken him to the limit of his boxing prowess?

No I don't think so. My opinion is if he feels an opponent doesn't have power he just takes punches from them to open them up to counters. I don't think we have seen anyone go toe to toe with him. The caliber of fighter is not great at 160. If he fought Froch, Ward even Canelo, we could see him troubled but Carl retired and Ward moved up. He really didn't get started on Brook, as soon as he stepped up the pace and got nasty Brook was out. Maybe DeGale can give him a challenge but I doubt it.

[elmersalsa]

Boxing trivia: With last Saturday night win over Kell Brook, GGG ties the record of most successful title defenses won by knockout with 17. He tied the mark of the great Wilfredo Gomez of Puerto Rico. Gomez did the feat between 1977 and 1983 for his WBC World Super Bantamweight Title.

Now, GGG, extended the world boxing record by winning his 18th world title fight in a row. All by knockout!

It looks like this Russian soon could be an all-time pound per pound great. Or is he a great fighter already?

[Kalan]

Gennady Golovkin isn't Russian. He's Kazakhstani.

GGG has a much better jab and is a stronger attacker than Hagler. He's better defensively, has better feet, and is better at controlling the ring against boxers as well. The 36-0 Brook couldn't get away from him. Hagler was outslicked by Bobby Watts and the original Willie Monroe -- who weren't that good, suffered many defeats, and never got title shots.

Hagler fought no natural Middleweight opponents as big, tall, powerful and skilled as Chris Eubank, Billy Joe Saunders, or Daniel Jacobs -- who are all ducking GGG, as is Canelo. The best natural middleweight challengers Marv fought were fairly crude swingers. John Mugabi weighed only 157 into the ring. He hit Hagler with so many crude swings that he convinced Leonard that Hagler would be easy meat -- even though Leonard was a Welterweight carrying 3 years of ring rust at the time... But Leonard wanted nothing to do with top Middleweight contenders Mike McCallum or Michael Nunn after he beat Hagler... It was easy to see why Leonard surrendered his Middleweight Title rather than fight such great Middleweight contenders... It was for the same reason Canelo ducked GGG.

It would have been a different story with Hagler had he fought until he was 36---and was able to fight such powerful and slick Middleweights as Reggie Johnson, James Toney, Michael Nunn, and Mike McCallum... As it is, Hagler got out of Boxing with a superb Championship record of 13 wins in 15 Middleweight Title Fights with 12 wins by KO.. However, Golovkin has 18 wins in 18 Middleweight Title Fights with 18 wins by KO... You have to win every fight these days or else you're toast.

Hagler fought 5 fights he didn't win... I'm not quite sure, that if Golovkin ever suffers a defeat or a draw, that everybody is going to give him some space.