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Lucas Browne has said David Haye doesn't deserve a world title shot :

"Coming off a two- to three-year lay-off and coming back fighting two bums basically, how does that get you No 1 ranked in all three belts and then a world title shot by fighting two people that aren't ranked and no one knows?

"I don't think he deserves anything, no."

"Just in regards to the UK fans, it's good that I can actually fight someone like Shannon Briggs that David Haye has avoided," said Briggs.

"I know that David Haye said that if he did fight on his undercard and win, then he would fight him. I believe he has ducked him because he's too dangerous, but here I am fighting Shannon Briggs now.

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... title-shot

I agree he doesn't. Neither does Lucas Browne.

gilgamesh wrote:I agree he doesn't. Neither does Lucas Browne.

Browne has already had one, and won the fight too.

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gilgamesh wrote:I agree he doesn't. Neither does Lucas Browne.

Browne has already had one, and won the fight too.

Briggs shouldn't be his opponent though. It should be Haye.

lefty wrote:

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gilgamesh wrote:I agree he doesn't. Neither does Lucas Browne.

Browne has already had one, and won the fight too.

Briggs shouldn't be his opponent though. It should be Haye.

I was responding to the post that said Browne didn't deserve a title shot

..none of them deserves a title shot...

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lefty wrote:

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Browne has already had one, and won the fight too.

Briggs shouldn't be his opponent though. It should be Haye.

I was responding to the post that said Browne didn't deserve a title shot

No I know. I'm just saying.

greg wrote:..none of them deserves a title shot...

Browne's last fight WAS a title shot

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greg wrote:..none of them deserves a title shot...

Browne's last fight WAS a title shot

..I've been always wondering how he got it in the first place being a bottom feeder all this career unless you consider Chauncey Welliver a deserving opponent and then..lo and behold--a title shot..

greg wrote:

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greg wrote:..none of them deserves a title shot...

Browne's last fight WAS a title shot

..I've been always wondering how he got it in the first place being a bottom feeder all this career unless you consider Chauncey Welliver a deserving opponent and then..lo and behold--a title shot..

There was hardly outrage when Browne got his title shot and as we saw he put in a more than handy performance on the night

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greg wrote:

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Browne's last fight WAS a title shot

..I've been always wondering how he got it in the first place being a bottom feeder all this career unless you consider Chauncey Welliver a deserving opponent and then..lo and behold--a title shot..

There was hardly outrage when Browne got his title shot and as we saw he put in a more than handy performance on the night

..didn't he test positive right after that?

greg wrote:

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greg wrote: ..I've been always wondering how he got it in the first place being a bottom feeder all this career unless you consider Chauncey Welliver a deserving opponent and then..lo and behold--a title shot..

There was hardly outrage when Browne got his title shot and as we saw he put in a more than handy performance on the night

..didn't he test positive right after that?

He did and he took the WBA to court over their handling of it and won. Old news now.

Bottom line is Browne's win over Chagaev stands, he is 24-0, and fighting Briggs for the title shortly :

http://boxrec.com/boxer/489046

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gilgamesh wrote:I agree he doesn't. Neither does Lucas Browne.

Browne has already had one, and won the fight too.

Yeah, but it was the WBA Heavyweight title which has virtually no significance anymore.

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greg wrote:

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There was hardly outrage when Browne got his title shot and as we saw he put in a more than handy performance on the night

..didn't he test positive right after that?

He did and he took the WBA to court over their handling of it and won. Old news now.

Bottom line is Browne's win over Chagaev stands, he is 24-0, and fighting Briggs for the title shortly :

http://boxrec.com/boxer/489046

...it's still important to know the whole story: the dude came basically from nowhere:
http://boxrec.com/boxer/489046

...got the title shot for some inexplicable reason..won WBA title and then was immediately stripped of that title having tested positive.. came up with some typical bs excuse presenting no evidence whatsoever and was for some magical reason reinstated...the whole story smells fishy, doesn't it?

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gilgamesh wrote:I agree he doesn't. Neither does Lucas Browne.

Browne has already had one, and won the fight too.

Yeah, but it was the WBA Heavyweight title which has virtually no significance anymore.

It is the exact same title he fought for in his last fight and the exact same one people here are claiming he doesn't deserve a crack at

Some people are saying Browne doesn't deserve a Title shot I think he already earn it in when he went to Russia and beat Chagaev then he was cleared of drug cheating but on the other hand Briggs thats a JOKE

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gilgamesh wrote:

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Browne has already had one, and won the fight too.

Yeah, but it was the WBA Heavyweight title which has virtually no significance anymore.

It is the exact same title he fought for in his last fight and the exact same one people here are claiming he doesn't deserve a crack at

He doesn't deserve a crack at any title. The WBA title is sh*t so it's not surprising he gets a crack at it because only undeserving people are ever fighting for it anymore anyway.

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gilgamesh wrote:
Yeah, but it was the WBA Heavyweight title which has virtually no significance anymore.

It is the exact same title he fought for in his last fight and the exact same one people here are claiming he doesn't deserve a crack at

He doesn't deserve a crack at any title. The WBA title is sh*t so it's not surprising he gets a crack at it because only undeserving people are ever fighting for it anymore anyway.

Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear

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gilgamesh wrote:

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It is the exact same title he fought for in his last fight and the exact same one people here are claiming he doesn't deserve a crack at

He doesn't deserve a crack at any title. The WBA title is sh*t so it's not surprising he gets a crack at it because only undeserving people are ever fighting for it anymore anyway.

Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear

All I'm saying is anybody in the Top 15 beats Browne. He'd beat Briggs because Briggs is shot, but he doesn't beat any other noteworthy contenders. Briggs isn't noteworthy really he's just convinced people he is for some reason.

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gilgamesh wrote:
He doesn't deserve a crack at any title. The WBA title is sh*t so it's not surprising he gets a crack at it because only undeserving people are ever fighting for it anymore anyway.

Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear

All I'm saying is anybody in the Top 15 beats Browne. He'd beat Briggs because Briggs is shot, but he doesn't beat any other noteworthy contenders. Briggs isn't noteworthy really he's just convinced people he is for some reason.

Quit guessing and read the reasons for the fight according to the people who made it :

WBA ORDERS BRIGGS VS. BROWNE TO RESOLVE DISPUTES

http://www.ringtv.com/472072-wba-prez-o ... -disputes/?

The WBA’s curious decision to have Shannon Briggs face Lucas Browne for a vacant heavyweight title was made in part as a legal concession to pacify aggrieved parties, WBA president Gilberto Mendoza seemed to suggest to RingTV.com. “My plan was to have only one heavyweight champion,” Mendoza said, “but legal settlements (changed the) WBA plans.”

The WBA made a series of rulings on Tuesday to clarify the heavyweight division after Tyson Fury vacated his belt to deal with personal issues. One decision that seemed to stump fans was the WBA’s order for Briggs to face Browne for the WBA’s “regular” title on or before Dec. 31.

Briggs is 44 and hasn’t faced anyone of significance since he lost to Vitali Klitschko in 2010. Browne won the WBA’s “regular” title after knocking out Ruslan Chagaev in March. He was subsequently stripped of the belt after he tested positive for a banned substance. Yet both are now vying for a title. Here’s a good reason why:

Browne (23-0, 16 knockouts) claimed he was unfairly stripped because he didn’t knowingly take a banned substance and filed a lawsuit against the WBA. Briggs (60-6-1, 53 KOs) also complained after he was mistakenly dropped in the WBA rankings from No. 4 to No. 7 “without an explanation,” according to Mendoza, which is a violation of the Muhammad Ali Act, he said. The best way to resolve these issues, Mendoza seemed to suggest, was to allow Briggs and Browne a chance to oppose each other for a vacant title.

“Lucas Browne filed a lawsuit after (the) WBA decided to strip him of the title for failing an anti-doping test,” Mendoza said in an email on Wednesday in response to a question of why Briggs and Browne are contending for a title. “The case was settled based on a title opportunity for the vacant championship bout. Shannon Briggs filed a reconsideration after being dropped from #4 to #7 without an explanation in the rankings. Since it breached the Muhammad Ali Act, Brigg’s petition was granted by the WBA Rankings Committee.”

Mendoza pointed a finger at the various manager and promoters who have filed cases against the WBA as reasons the sanctioning organization must sometimes make difficult decisions that can draw criticism. “The WBA is working in good faith and hard in order to have one champion per division,” Mendoza said. “But the conflict of interest leads several managers or promoters to the justice system in order to claim remedies sometimes unfair to the sanctioning bodies. Regarding the critics, there is not much to say for the above-mentioned reasons. There was a mistake done by one of my committee (members in regards to Briggs’ ranking) which I must (take) responsibility.”

Whatever dude. If you think Browne is some great world title contender you're a dumbass. Yeah beat Chagaev for the title...I'm aware of that. But are you aware that even when he did that he still wasn't in most Top 10 lists? Do you think a guy should be a "Champion" and not even be ranked in the Top 10?

Oh Dear, Oh dear, Oh dear if so...dumbass.

gilgamesh wrote:Whatever dude. If you think Browne is some great world title contender you're a dumbass. Yeah beat Chagaev for the title...I'm aware of that. But are you aware that even when he did that he still wasn't in most Top 10 lists? Do you think a guy should be a "Champion" and not even be ranked in the Top 10?

Oh Dear, Oh dear, Oh dear if so...dumbass.

Read the article above and educate yourself on why the fight was made dipstick.

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gilgamesh wrote:Whatever dude. If you think Browne is some great world title contender you're a dumbass. Yeah beat Chagaev for the title...I'm aware of that. But are you aware that even when he did that he still wasn't in most Top 10 lists? Do you think a guy should be a "Champion" and not even be ranked in the Top 10?

Oh Dear, Oh dear, Oh dear if so...dumbass.

Read the article and educate yourself dipstick.

I've forgotten more about Boxing than you'll ever know.

gilgamesh wrote:

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gilgamesh wrote:Whatever dude. If you think Browne is some great world title contender you're a dumbass. Yeah beat Chagaev for the title...I'm aware of that. But are you aware that even when he did that he still wasn't in most Top 10 lists? Do you think a guy should be a "Champion" and not even be ranked in the Top 10?

Oh Dear, Oh dear, Oh dear if so...dumbass.

Read the article and educate yourself dipstick.

I've forgotten more about Boxing than you'll ever know.

You didn't know why this fight was made. That much is for sure. If you read the article you can actually find out.

I get why the fight was made. It's the WBA title. The WBA title has guys ranked highly that shouldn't be ranked highly.