Can't wait for Thurman vs Garcia fight ! Who you got ?

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Can't wait for Thurman vs Garcia fight ! Who you got ?

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I think Garcia is the type of fighter that prevails when all think he's gonna lose. Khan and Matthysse are some good exemples.
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I'd favor Thurman. Garcia doesn't do well with guys that can move and box effectively. Mauricio Herrera outboxed him and deserved the win. Thurman can box as good as Herrera, and he can punch a bit too. He probably wins.
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I've written Garcia off previously and been proven wrong.

I pick Thurman to win comfortably
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I don't see this being an easy fight for either guy. I would pick Thurman, but in a close decision. I hope the winner of Spence/Brook fights the winner of this fight.
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Listen Thurman is the smartest in the game along with Ward I'm sure he'll find a way to get his hands raised.
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Badhusker wrote:I don't see this being an easy fight for either guy. I would pick Thurman, but in a close decision. I hope the winner of Spence/Brook fights the winner of this fight.
Me too, that would be awesome.
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Thurman looks flashy and explosive but Garcia is fundamentally sound and he does some subtle things in the ring.
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I can see Thurman bouncing around early.
If he doesn't hurt Danny early,
this fight will get VERY interesting down the stretch.

Garcia is on another level of underrated.
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Thurman for me. I'd love to see someone lamp that fuckin gimp Angel Garcia! He's a grade A fúckwit!
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Been going back and forth on this one but currently Garcia would be the pick.
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I'm gonna pick Thurman. I'm a Thurman fan but Danny winning wouldn't hugely surprise me either. He's like the Carl Froch of the lighter weight classes (except he fights a lot more shitty opponents on a regular basis) - he somehow tends to find a way to beat guys who are more athletically gifted, etc, that him.
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Early lean to Garcia. Very good match up.
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Garcia lost to Herrera. Peterson fight should probably have been a draw. Thurman should whip him. I hope he does.
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Re: Can't wait for Thurman vs Garcia fight ! Who you got ?

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Anyone who cares about boxing will get behind Thurman. Do it for boxing Keith.
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Re: Can't wait for Thurman vs Garcia fight ! Who you got ?

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50/50 type of fight. I will root for Thurman. Garcia's father is pure evil, and they got some gift-decisions....Quite enough, for me...
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Re: Can't wait for Thurman vs Garcia fight ! Who you got ?

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Thurman.

It's going to be a well fought contest, but I lean towards Keith.
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tbh I'd like to see Thurman stopping Danny just to see Angel's reaction but Danny is a tough fighter.
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Thurman is going to sleep in this one. DSG's left hand has always been nasty but his right hand is now equally is lethal. They both can bang but this one is going to come down to who has the best chin and that's DSG. He's been in there with better and been hit harder than Thurman has ever been hit and DSG has never been buzzed. His face marks up easily and he'll look like the loser at the end like he normally does but Thurman has been hurt by light hitting welterweights and he's never faced anyone with power like DSG. Not even close.
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caldo2025 wrote:Thurman is going to sleep in this one. DSG's left hand has always been nasty but his right hand is now equally is lethal. They both can bang but this one is going to come down to who has the best chin and that's DSG. He's been in there with better and been hit harder than Thurman has ever been hit and DSG has never been buzzed. His face marks up easily and he'll look like the loser at the end like he normally does but Thurman has been hurt by light hitting welterweights and he's never faced anyone with power like DSG. Not even close.
what the hell makes DSG right hand lethal?? it did next to nothing in most of his last few fights. Guerrero the zombie walked through it.. Paulie lasted 3 TIMES as long against Garcia than he did Porter, and Shawn made Paulie look dead lol..

Porter at 147 is more dangerous than anyone Garcia fought, ever. Chaves hits harder than DSG, clearly. DSG power is vastly overrated, his timing and sneaky shots are what make him good. And the fact he was a massive weight drainer to keep fighting smaller guys at 140 is interesting, no wonder he has avoided anyone with any kind of power since he got his ass beat by Herrera. Clear robbery, and ran from a rematch. Jesus that is one of the biggest bullshit posts, you'd need an old priest and a young priest to cast the bullshit outta that one. Danny is getting the shit beat out of him, he might be standing in the end but I doubt it. Swift will be known as Twitch after this fight.
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caldo2025 wrote:Thurman is going to sleep in this one. DSG's left hand has always been nasty but his right hand is now equally is lethal. They both can bang but this one is going to come down to who has the best chin and that's DSG. He's been in there with better and been hit harder than Thurman has ever been hit and DSG has never been buzzed. His face marks up easily and he'll look like the loser at the end like he normally does but Thurman has been hurt by light hitting welterweights and he's never faced anyone with power like DSG. Not even close.
Nobody is going to sleep.. Thurman suffered a massive head-butt swelling in the Guerrero fight and still won every round. He put The Ghost down for a 9-count.. Were it not for the headbutt Thurman would have stopped RG.. He was being cautious.. Garcia could barely get a win over a badly trashed Guerrero after Thurman beat the tamales out of him.. Garcia is the king of the Welterweights who can't box a lick.

I like Danny Garcia and he did a brilliant job versus Erik Morales...a guy who was more wide open than Guerrero... If you're an aggressive Mexican, Danny can knock you cold... If you're wide open and defenseless chump like Amir Khan, Danny will beat your brains in and bomb your head off... If you're a left hooker like Matthysse, Danny will hook you to pieces. I was surprised he didn't stop Matthysse -- but he wasn't throwing very hard. He can do better in a rematch.

But what Garcia can't do is box... He has no stance.. He has no jab.. He has no defense.. He has no right hand counter.. I hate Lamont Peterson, mostly because he can't box well or defend himself well -- but he beat Danny Garcia.. That fight just showed all the technical deficiencies Garcia has.. If Floyd Mayweather were to choose an opponent from all the top guys who he could beat for his 50th, it would probably be Danny Garcia.. Thurman has a nice jab and good timing.. He has a nice, short straight right that really hurts you.. He has damaging short hooks.. He can defend himself.. He has good movement and combinations.. He stays busy ... I don't see a KO.. I see 118-110 X 3.

Forget that left hook to the liver that Thurman caught.. That happens to everybody but he didn't go down.. Maidana caught a similar liver shot from feather hitter Amir Khan. Maidana went down like a sack of potatoes. Khan couldn't follow up. He's the lamest finisher ever.. It's like Mayweather catching 2 hard shots from Mosley and going rubber legged all over the ring.. Mosley didn't follow up well.. Shane was dumbfounded that he landed something big on a defender as good as Floyd. Mosley had his head up his ass for a second.. You can possibly keep 90% of your opponent's punches off of you.. The other 10% will hit you if he's any good.. You pray nothing lands real cleanly -- but if you fight long enough, a tough shot will get you started in one of your fights.. There will be a close call---guaranteed.. Thurman was lucky because Collazo is the world's worst finisher.
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Thurman but i'm not totally sold on him Garcia seems little for a welter but I must say in his last fight against the Columbian guy his punching power seems to have got better his record suggest that he's more of a boxer [besides what he did to Khan] even the sound of his punch's were thudding Thurman best tuck his chin in early doors or he could find himself looking up at the light's...........I predict Thurman to climb off the canvas atleast once to win a great fight split dec or 12 tko:TU:
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SFW wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Thurman is going to sleep in this one. DSG's left hand has always been nasty but his right hand is now equally is lethal. They both can bang but this one is going to come down to who has the best chin and that's DSG. He's been in there with better and been hit harder than Thurman has ever been hit and DSG has never been buzzed. His face marks up easily and he'll look like the loser at the end like he normally does but Thurman has been hurt by light hitting welterweights and he's never faced anyone with power like DSG. Not even close.
what the hell makes DSG right hand lethal?? it did next to nothing in most of his last few fights. Guerrero the zombie walked through it.. Paulie lasted 3 TIMES as long against Garcia than he did Porter, and Shawn made Paulie look dead lol..

Porter at 147 is more dangerous than anyone Garcia fought, ever. Chaves hits harder than DSG, clearly. DSG power is vastly overrated, his timing and sneaky shots are what make him good. And the fact he was a massive weight drainer to keep fighting smaller guys at 140 is interesting, no wonder he has avoided anyone with any kind of power since he got his ass beat by Herrera. Clear robbery, and ran from a rematch. Jesus that is one of the biggest bullshit posts, you'd need an old priest and a young priest to cast the bullshit outta that one. Danny is getting the poo beat out of him, he might be standing in the end but I doubt it. Swift will be known as Twitch after this fight.
Did you just pull the amateur "well he beat this guy way worse than this guy beat him" argument, dude? I would normally never respond to anyone who uses that line for logic because it's idiotic but i'm feeling charitable.

You are right. DSG's strength has always been the "sneaky" left hand. There's power as well in it but he snaps it rattlesnake quickly from crazy angles. His right has always been standard. Powerful but nothing sneaky about it. But now he's throwing both hands like that and he's sneaky as hell right now. Like Canelo, he's setting up big shots with sneaky faints. A novice wouldn't notice this stuff so i'm not blaming you for it. In time, you'll develop an eye for the intricacies of the sport perhaps.

Thurman's chin will be exposed in this one unless DSG goes to the body first to get him out of there. We all know that Thurman can't handle a body shot. Pillow hands Luis Callazo almost got Thurman out of there with a body shot so there's multiple ways DSG can end this one early and i think that he will.
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Your basing your opinion on bullshit, that's the problem. No worries, I had more ring time than you can pretend to know about, ignoring actual results may be key for you I admit it's not the whole story but it happened. It begs the question why DSG had trouble with lesser fighters, trouble Keith didn't have btw, and how another "lesser" fighter in Porter is somehow worse than the shit Danny gets handed.

Why do you keep saying "now"? Other than moving up to finally start fighting guys his size (even though one was a former featherweight and another a pillow handed jr. welterweight) he has not progressed at all. Damn that pathetic Vargas fight must have really penetrated that mind of yours, maybe see a doctor.

Collazo landed a perfect shot and Thurman took it and didn't even go down. Then Collazo quit, something he's never done. I would think a self proclaimed knowledgeable person would see that for what it actually is. Passing a test. You likely know far less than ya think you do. But even then you could be right, Danny might get lucky and win. There's a reason most doubt it though. I wonder why.
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I don't see Garcia getting lucky here... This is another big fight like the Porter fight... Thurman didn't get caught with anything big in that one and Porter is a better boxer and puncher than Danny... Both men will be on their games... it will be a great fight... and Garcia will take a beating.
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Kalan wrote:I don't see Garcia getting lucky here... This is another big fight like the Porter fight... Thurman didn't get caught with anything big in that one and Porter is a better boxer and puncher than Danny... Both men will be on their games... it will be a great fight... and Garcia will take a beating.
Porter and Garcia are two totally different fighters and styles. I don't think Porter is a better boxer or puncher. His main advantage is the pressure he applies relentlessly. Garcia was supposed to get a beating by Matthysse too. I favor Thurman, but in a close fight. Not an easy fight for either. Thurman can always get on his bike if he has to.
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