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gvosdyk beat the same version chilemba kovalev had, much more impressivly than kovalev. gvoz is taller, bigger and arguably equaly strong than kov. bertebiev beat kovalev in the amateurs. kovalev beat ward. adonis is past prime, but showed against unbeaten williams, that he still got power left.

experts only!

Andre Ward is #NotMyLightHeavyweightChampion.

Sergey Kovalev is the peoples' champ.

Not even listing Ward as an option

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why no Ward? even if you believe he lost the fight, the fact is he won in a very close fight against the fighter who was recognised as the best in the division. You may find a few more people joining in post if Ward was listed.

why should i put ward in it when i thought he had troubles against barrera and lost clear by ~3 rds to kovalev?

i trust my eyes more, than i trust judges descisions! ward is around 5-7. hell even jean pascal and andreij fonfara would probably win against ward.

Ward is number 1 P4P.

1. Ward
2. Kovalev
3. Stevenson

Kovalev just beat Ward in most fans opinion so him ;)

Seems pretty clear who most thought won and believes is still the best LHW. Ward is a smart fighter, Kovalev is the better fighter. Better power, better fundamentals. Ward has to resort to wrestling and dirty tactics to win. Kudos to him for being able to think outside the box when he is getting out boxed fundamentally, but I have a hard time supporting ugly fighting.

Impractical Poster wrote:Seems pretty clear who most thought won and believes is still the best LHW. Ward is a smart fighter, Kovalev is the better fighter. Better power, better fundamentals. Ward has to resort to wrestling a dirty tactics to win. Kudos to him for being able to think outside the box when he is getting outboxed fundamentally, but I have a hard time supporting ugly fighting.

"Most" are wrong, and it will be even more obvious next time.

Tanzio wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Seems pretty clear who most thought won and believes is still the best LHW. Ward is a smart fighter, Kovalev is the better fighter. Better power, better fundamentals. Ward has to resort to wrestling a dirty tactics to win. Kudos to him for being able to think outside the box when he is getting outboxed fundamentally, but I have a hard time supporting ugly fighting.

"Most" are wrong, and it will be even more obvious next time.

They're not wrong at all. Kovalev clearly won the fight.

Tanzio wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Seems pretty clear who most thought won and believes is still the best LHW. Ward is a smart fighter, Kovalev is the better fighter. Better power, better fundamentals. Ward has to resort to wrestling a dirty tactics to win. Kudos to him for being able to think outside the box when he is getting outboxed fundamentally, but I have a hard time supporting ugly fighting.

"Most" are wrong, and it will be even more obvious next time.

It is all subjective anyway. Most just like to go with the man who landed more, hurt the other opponent more, and used conventional boxing techniques to win the fight. You side with the judges, but it doesn't make you right either.

Unofficially: Kovalev
Officially: Ward

Ian1973 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Seems pretty clear who most thought won and believes is still the best LHW. Ward is a smart fighter, Kovalev is the better fighter. Better power, better fundamentals. Ward has to resort to wrestling a dirty tactics to win. Kudos to him for being able to think outside the box when he is getting outboxed fundamentally, but I have a hard time supporting ugly fighting.

"Most" are wrong, and it will be even more obvious next time.

They're not wrong at all. Kovalev clearly won the fight.

Krusher clearly lost, by UD. He gets another chance. I hope that he wins that one but I would go with another UD, 116-112 or greater for Ward. Next time Krusher may not reach the decision.

Ward is P4P #1.

Tanzio wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

Tanzio wrote: "Most" are wrong, and it will be even more obvious next time.

They're not wrong at all. Kovalev clearly won the fight.

Krusher clearly lost, by UD. He gets another chance. I hope that he wins that one but I would go with another UD, 116-112 or greater for Ward. Next time Krusher may not reach the decision.

Ward is P4P #1.

No, just no.

Next time doesn't matter a jot for now. Saturday mattered and people know who really won that fight. Those giving it to Ward are not scoring objectively, there is no way you can realistically give him more than five rounds.

Ian1973 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

They're not wrong at all. Kovalev clearly won the fight.

Krusher clearly lost, by UD. He gets another chance. I hope that he wins that one but I would go with another UD, 116-112 or greater for Ward. Next time Krusher may not reach the decision.

Ward is P4P #1.

No, just no.

Next time doesn't matter a jot for now. Saturday mattered and people know who really won that fight. Those giving it to Ward are not scoring objectively, there is no way you can realistically give him more than five rounds.

He won 8 rounds, 4 clearly. All but one of Krusher's rounds were close, including 10.

I was rooting for Krusher. If not for the KD, this was not that close at all. That is based on a second viewing, alone, with no sound.

Tanzio wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Krusher clearly lost, by UD. He gets another chance. I hope that he wins that one but I would go with another UD, 116-112 or greater for Ward. Next time Krusher may not reach the decision.

Ward is P4P #1.

No, just no.

Next time doesn't matter a jot for now. Saturday mattered and people know who really won that fight. Those giving it to Ward are not scoring objectively, there is no way you can realistically give him more than five rounds.

He won 8 rounds, 4 clearly. All but one of Krusher's rounds were close, including 10.

I was rooting for Krusher. If not for the KD, this was not that close at all. That is based on a second viewing, alone, with no sound.

8 rounds?

Yep and I'm Santa Claus.

Ian1973 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

No, just no.

Next time doesn't matter a jot for now. Saturday mattered and people know who really won that fight. Those giving it to Ward are not scoring objectively, there is no way you can realistically give him more than five rounds.

He won 8 rounds, 4 clearly. All but one of Krusher's rounds were close, including 10.

I was rooting for Krusher. If not for the KD, this was not that close at all. That is based on a second viewing, alone, with no sound.

8 rounds?

Yep and I'm Santa Claus.

Drive safe.

I agree with 8 rounds. Kovalev won 8.

Jip wrote:gvosdyk beat the same version chilemba kovalev had, much more impressivly than kovalev. gvoz is taller, bigger and arguably equaly strong than kov. bertebiev beat kovalev in the amateurs. kovalev beat ward. adonis is past prime, but showed against unbeaten williams, that he still got power left.

experts only!

..you should also include Ward, he is one tough cookie who's stepped up to the plate and has just done his best..you can't leave him out because of what happened...

Ian1973 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

No, just no.

Next time doesn't matter a jot for now. Saturday mattered and people know who really won that fight. Those giving it to Ward are not scoring objectively, there is no way you can realistically give him more than five rounds.

He won 8 rounds, 4 clearly. All but one of Krusher's rounds were close, including 10.

I was rooting for Krusher. If not for the KD, this was not that close at all. That is based on a second viewing, alone, with no sound.

8 rounds?

Yep and I'm Santa Claus.

4 and 8 NO WAY

When Stevenson puts away his chicken costume, then he might be worthy of consideration.

People still complaining? Get over it. Kovalev lost, no amount of argument is gonna bring back that 0

Freedom2013 wrote:Andre Ward is #NotMyLightHeavyweightChampion.

Sergey Kovalev is the peoples' champ.

A white man is going to be president of the US.

Isn't that enough for you, or do you need the LH championship too?

Ruthless-RKO wrote:People still complaining? Get over it. Kovalev lost, no amount of argument is gonna bring back that 0

It's not like they're going to reverse it and give Kovelev back his belts. Best they can do is what they're doing now. And Ward can still can say screw it and decide to retire with the victory and the belts.