Has the way fighters use the heavybag changed?

[Stevieb8006]

Genuine question. Lots of clips I see of current fighters show them tapping the bag left right left right left right continuously. I rarely see fighters unloading and "working" the bag anymore. Mayweather for example. I just wondered if there was a reason for this. Is it because padwork is so prevalent. It seems strange to stay rooted in front of the bag.

[littlepug]

Genuine question. Lots of clips I see of current fighters show them tapping the bag left right left right left right continuously. I rarely see fighters unloading and "working" the bag anymore. Mayweather for example. I just wondered if there was a reason for this. Is it because padwork is so prevalent. It seems strange to stay rooted in front of the bag.

yes it does seem to be the trend now doesn't it, not sure why though perhaps to delay wear and tear ? can remember seeing footage of Matthew Hilton smashing the sh1t out of the heavybag, don't see that much these days !

[Stevieb8006]

Genuine question. Lots of clips I see of current fighters show them tapping the bag left right left right left right continuously. I rarely see fighters unloading and "working" the bag anymore. Mayweather for example. I just wondered if there was a reason for this. Is it because padwork is so prevalent. It seems strange to stay rooted in front of the bag.

yes it does seem to be the trend now doesn't it, not sure why though perhaps to delay wear and tear ? can remember seeing footage of Matthew Hilton smashing the sh1t out of the heavybag, don't see that much these days !

I thought it was just me that noticed it. Maybe they do it behind closed doors perhaps? I don't see the benefit of the alternating punch thing may weather does tbh. It doesn't even look like he puts any body mechanics behind it.

[m1kee50]

at our place we get them to alternate sequences of fast shots with a big finishing shot, 2-1-2 quick to the head then a left hook to the body, for example. we also encourage them to move around the bag as it sways, rather than stand in front of it and keep steadying it

[littlepug]

at our place we get them to alternate sequences of fast shots with a big finishing shot, 2-1-2 quick to the head then a left hook to the body, for example. we also encourage them to move around the bag as it sways, rather than stand in front of it and keep steadying it

yeah helps with the footwork and sense of distance, if you've got bad feet but just stand still in front of the bag then your footwork aint gonna get any better

[Kalan]

Genuine question. Lots of clips I see of current fighters show them tapping the bag left right left right left right continuously. I rarely see fighters unloading and "working" the bag anymore. Mayweather for example. I just wondered if there was a reason for this. Is it because padwork is so prevalent. It seems strange to stay rooted in front of the bag.

Because the heavybag can tear up shoulders and it doesn't react the way a boxer does when you hit it with anything but a body shot. If you load your punches when you're boxing somebody good you won't hit them anyway, so you don't load and throw like that because you're not going to throw that many body shots anyway. Many use it as a conditioning exercise and just hit it with pitty pat punches, tap, tap, tap, tap, and step around, or maybe not step around. The guys who impress the whole gym by sending the heavy bag to the ceiling and making it sing are generally not the top boxers.

Likewise the speed bag is not the way you throw punches when you're boxing. It's a conditioner and to get your speed up for most because it's probably not going to improve your form... Mitt work is the best work other than sparring for increasing your boxing skills... double-end bags set at different heights are also good.

[Tony1244]

It's a Great Workout to hit the heavy bag like George Foreman did in that clip of him training for the Ali fight.

Trying to imitate that is a fantastic cardio.

[Kalan]

You don't want to do that... You don't want somebody to hold the heavy bag steady so you can blast a hole in it.

You want a real big Heavy bag, especially if you're big.. An expensive one with really good leather.. And you want a free swinging bag so you can dodge it as it swings around and quickly position yourself to hit it with the most leverage.. it's ideal for straight punches, but you can throw hooks at it if you aim for the front of the bag so your fist will pass through like when you hit a jaw with a left hook.. You turn the head and your fist keeps going.. If you get too much of the bag on your hook to the head -- it stops your hook dead, and that's when you'll eventually get shoulder injuries.

[Bricks]

Boxb..i mean kalan..in this training section u sure provide good answers ...i can bet u been in boxing a helluva long time.....yeah..hell yeah

[Seamus]

I like walking into it till it's on a 45 degree angle and then seeing how long i can keep it up with punches. Not very long actually.

[Joe Boxer]

Genuine question. Lots of clips I see of current fighters show them tapping the bag left right left right left right continuously. I rarely see fighters unloading and "working" the bag anymore. Mayweather for example. I just wondered if there was a reason for this. Is it because padwork is so prevalent. It seems strange to stay rooted in front of the bag.

yes it does seem to be the trend now doesn't it, not sure why though perhaps to delay wear and tear ? can remember seeing footage of Matthew Hilton smashing the sh1t out of the heavybag, don't see that much these days !

I saw that first-hand when he came for a fight in Halifax. Maybe his last fight? Wow.

[Kalan]

Genuine question. Lots of clips I see of current fighters show them tapping the bag left right left right left right continuously. I rarely see fighters unloading and "working" the bag anymore. Mayweather for example. I just wondered if there was a reason for this. Is it because padwork is so prevalent. It seems strange to stay rooted in front of the bag.

yes it does seem to be the trend now doesn't it, not sure why though perhaps to delay wear and tear ? can remember seeing footage of Matthew Hilton smashing the sh1t out of the heavybag, don't see that much these days !

I saw that first-hand when he came for a fight in Halifax. Maybe his last fight? Wow.

You can throw hooks to the body and smash them in there pretty good -- but hooking powerfully to the head on the heavy bag, if you hit it square on, will eventually lead to shoulder and clavicle injuries. Most boxers throw too hard anyway.. Rather than great exertion -- use great TIMING like Mikey Garcia did tonight.. My score was 118-110 and the two 116-112 cards were terrible.. But I knew before the scores were announced pretty much what they'd be. If they gave Broner another round they'd throw those guys in jail....or they should. It would just be another day in Boxing.

Strength training is also very important for a boxer... so your punches get to the target faster with less effort -- and your delivery is smoother... Rope, climbing... bar stars workouts... weights... plyometric push-ups and jumps... medicine ball workouts... swinging a sledge on a tractor tire... torso machines... whatever makes you a lot stronger works for boxing -- but it means nothing if your technique and timing aren't there.

[Joe Boxer]

yes it does seem to be the trend now doesn't it, not sure why though perhaps to delay wear and tear ? can remember seeing footage of Matthew Hilton smashing the sh1t out of the heavybag, don't see that much these days !

I saw that first-hand when he came for a fight in Halifax. Maybe his last fight? Wow.

You can throw hooks to the body and smash them in there pretty good -- but hooking powerfully to the head on the heavy bag, if you hit it square on, will eventually lead to shoulder and clavicle injuries. Most boxers throw too hard anyway.. Rather than great exertion -- use great TIMING like Mikey Garcia did tonight.. My score was 118-110 and the two 116-112 cards were terrible.. But I knew before the scores were announced pretty much what they'd be. If they gave Broner another round they'd throw those guys in jail....or they should. It would just be another day in Boxing.

Strength training is also very important for a boxer... so your punches get to the target faster with less effort -- and your delivery is smoother... Rope, climbing... bar stars workouts... weights... plyometric push-ups and jumps... medicine ball workouts... swinging a sledge on a tractor tire... torso machines... whatever makes you a lot stronger works for boxing -- but it means nothing if your technique and timing aren't there.

Kalan, any chance I can get your two cents on my other thread (about butting)?

[littlepug]

Genuine question. Lots of clips I see of current fighters show them tapping the bag left right left right left right continuously. I rarely see fighters unloading and "working" the bag anymore. Mayweather for example. I just wondered if there was a reason for this. Is it because padwork is so prevalent. It seems strange to stay rooted in front of the bag.

yes it does seem to be the trend now doesn't it, not sure why though perhaps to delay wear and tear ? can remember seeing footage of Matthew Hilton smashing the sh1t out of the heavybag, don't see that much these days !

I saw that first-hand when he came for a fight in Halifax. Maybe his last fight? Wow.

Are you from Halifax ?

[Joe Boxer]

yes it does seem to be the trend now doesn't it, not sure why though perhaps to delay wear and tear ? can remember seeing footage of Matthew Hilton smashing the sh1t out of the heavybag, don't see that much these days !

I saw that first-hand when he came for a fight in Halifax. Maybe his last fight? Wow.

Are you from Halifax ?

Halifax, Nova Scotia. Amateur career at Citadel Boxing before coming here to Korea and turning pro: http://boxrec.com/boxer/386408

[littlepug]

I saw that first-hand when he came for a fight in Halifax. Maybe his last fight? Wow.

Are you from Halifax ?

Halifax, Nova Scotia. Amateur career at Citadel Boxing before coming here to Korea and turning pro: http://boxrec.com/boxer/386408

Cool, I'm from Halifax in the UK, I boxed amateur and had a 7 fight pro career, checked you out on the database and noticed we were born in the same year, nice to meet ya

[littlepug]

Are you from Halifax ?

Halifax, Nova Scotia. Amateur career at Citadel Boxing before coming here to Korea and turning pro: http://boxrec.com/boxer/386408

Cool, I'm from Halifax in the UK, I boxed amateur and had a 7 fight pro career, checked you out on the database and noticed we were born in the same year, nice to meet ya

And strangely enough my wife runs her own business here which is a south Korean franchise !

[Joe Boxer]

Nice to meet you too!
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Oh, and forgot to mention, reply to my 'headbutt' thread if you don't mind. I'm trying to find out the rules about this:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=213632