David Haye is the biggest joke in HW division

[Unbiased Expert]

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

[Killer Blow]

He's never fighting Parker or any top heavyweight other than his Joshua cashout.

[Tony1244]

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

[Tanzio]

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

I completely agree that there is little to nothing to criticize Joshua about. He looks to be the real deal future of the HW div to me.

But, let's not go overboard. There are other HWs who came up the ranks as fast or faster. That is not a criticism of Joshua. 3 fights a year is as much as you can legitimately expect from HWs at the top level these days.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

Nothing to criticize haye for either.

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He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

I completely agree that there is little to nothing to criticize Joshua about. He looks to be the real deal future of the HW div to me.

But, let's not go overboard. There are other HWs who came up the ranks as fast or faster. That is not a criticism of Joshua. 3 fights a year is as much as you can legitimately expect from HWs at the top level these days.

Spot on.

If anything, having a heavyweight trinket is actually hindering him because he can't fight as often as up & comers usually do.

Of course, he could have non title fights in-between, but he's a cash-cow now & I don't think his management team would allow it.

[Badhusker]

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

I completely agree that there is little to nothing to criticize Joshua about. He looks to be the real deal future of the HW div to me.

But, let's not go overboard. There are other HWs who came up the ranks as fast or faster. That is not a criticism of Joshua. 3 fights a year is as much as you can legitimately expect from HWs at the top level these days.

Considering the limited amateur experience of Joshua and relatively few pro fights, I think he may be being moved too fast. I have said the same about Wilder who was brought along extremely slow because of his experience level. Wilder should only take on top 5 guys from here on out, but I wouldn't be too critical if they fed Joshua a few more gatekeepers.

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He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

The 'people' want it.

You should know by now that Haye always fights who the 'people' want him to fight.

They wanted him to fight Audley Harrison too.

[keithmoonhangover]

He's never fighting Parker or any top heavyweight other than his Joshua cashout.

So you think that Haye will walk into the ring with Joshua thinking he's going to lose?

[Killer Blow]

He's never fighting Parker or any top heavyweight other than his Joshua cashout.

So you think that Haye will walk into the ring with Joshua thinking he's going to lose?

No, but it's the only top heavyweight I see him stepping inside a ring with. I see Joshua as the most winnable fight for Haye out of the top guys stylistically, even though I don't think Joshua is the worst fighter of the top guys.

[keithmoonhangover]

He's never fighting Parker or any top heavyweight other than his Joshua cashout.

So you think that Haye will walk into the ring with Joshua thinking he's going to lose?

No, but it's the only top heavyweight I see him stepping inside a ring with. I see Joshua as the most winnable fight for Haye out of the top guys stylistically, even though I don't think Joshua is the worst fighter of the top guys.

But you said it was a 'cashout'. I'm confused, Please explain. It's either a cashout or it ain't,

[Killer Blow]

So you think that Haye will walk into the ring with Joshua thinking he's going to lose?

No, but it's the only top heavyweight I see him stepping inside a ring with. I see Joshua as the most winnable fight for Haye out of the top guys stylistically, even though I don't think Joshua is the worst fighter of the top guys.

But you said it was a 'cashout'. I'm confused, Please explain. It's either a cashout or it ain't,

A fight with Joshua will fund his divorce as well as keep him living his high class lifestyle for a few more years.

He will very likely retire after the Joshua fight win or lose, but he has a big ego so he'll go in to win.

[badkatt]

agreed he ducked 45 yr old briggs

[Tony1244]

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

Nothing to criticize haye for either.

Haye's fights with Klit and Valuev were quite dull. Fury-Wlad level dull. Haye is a part time fighter and promised Briggs a shot. Whether Briggs deserves a shot is a whole other matter, but he did seem to renege on the deal.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

Nothing to criticize haye for either.

Haye's fights with Klit and Valuev were quite dull. Fury-Wlad level dull. Haye is a part time fighter and promised Briggs a shot. Whether Briggs deserves a shot is a whole other matter, but he did seem to renege on the deal.

He's not holding a belt hostage. As for the wlad 'fight', he took all the heat when the giant talked just as much shit and didn't deliver a single damaging blow. It's fine to criticize them both for that abomination. Now? Don't watch. Briggs? Lol, bellew would stomp him.

[davie]

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

Bro, Haye deserves all the credit he's earned.

Joshua a d Wilder have taken stick for being undeserving of their place at the top top table and have taken stick for not defending against the level of fighter they should have.
Judge that as you will.

David Haye has come back, smashed out bums, all be it undefeated bums, he's earned nothing. Judge him on that.

Him and Bellew have hand picked their audience.
They've earned their casual following and they've talked their way into the the big payday.

All our complaints wont do a damn think to stop them getting their payday. In fact, even as a supposed knowledgeable fan, they've got my buy in, just to see Bellew spanked.

Bellew has folloqed the well trodden path of getting a title and cashing out (even if he isn't using that title for the cash out) and Haye has taken the easy route to a quick buck.

They're a pair of charlatans, you know it as well as I do, but take some sollace in the fact one of them will be largely discreditted come April, regardless of the outcome.

[davie]

Sorry board
I totally went off on a tangent on that last post

Not even sure what my initial point was


I'm in the boozer

Anyway, Haye and Bellew are pudenda. Hopefully one of them ends up face down trying to suck canvas

[davie]

Sorry board
I totally went off on a tangent on that last post

Not even sure what my my initial point was


I'm in the boozer

Anyway, Haye and Bellew are pudenda. Hopefully one of them ends up face down trying to suck canvas

[BitPlayer]

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

If he was being treated like a prospect then yeah, but you can't have it both ways, if he's being talked about as a legit top HW, then his best win being an out of shape, injured domestic level fighter is a joke.

[Tony1244]

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

If he was being treated like a prospect then yeah, but you can't have it both ways, if he's being talked about as a legit top HW, then his best win being an out of shape, injured domestic level fighter is a joke.

Joshua is a legit top HW. Other than Wlad who is about retired, he's doing near as well as the rest of them. We all know the problems with Wilder and Fury. Comparatively he doesn't look that bad.

[Tony1244]

Nothing to criticize haye for either.

Haye's fights with Klit and Valuev were quite dull. Fury-Wlad level dull. Haye is a part time fighter and promised Briggs a shot. Whether Briggs deserves a shot is a whole other matter, but he did seem to renege on the deal.

He's not holding a belt hostage. As for the wlad 'fight', he took all the heat when the giant talked just as much poo and didn't deliver a single damaging blow. It's fine to criticize them both for that abomination. Now? Don't watch. Briggs? Lol, bellew would stomp him.

Regarding not watching Briggs, I plead guilty to wanting to see him in a big fight to shut his mouth. Or to surprise everyone, which is unlikely, but would also be entertaining.

[BitPlayer]

I don't see why Joshua would deserve any hate. Anthony is moving successfully as fast up the ranks as anyone I've ever seen.

If he was being treated like a prospect then yeah, but you can't have it both ways, if he's being talked about as a legit top HW, then his best win being an out of shape, injured domestic level fighter is a joke.

Joshua is a legit top HW. Other than Wlad who is about retired, he's doing near as well as the rest of them. We all know the problems with Wilder and Fury. Comparatively he doesn't look that bad.

Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker, and Pulev all have far better wins. Even without Wlad Fury has beaten far better opponents, and atleast Wilder beat Stivern, though even without that he probably has beaten better opponents.

[Enlightened-One]

David Haye is the biggest joke in HW division

He deserves more hate than Joshua , Wilder and anyone else. Fighting cruiserweight after two total bums is a total joke.

Parker will blast this fraud out !

I don’t think that David Haye is a joke… and here are my reasons why…

David Haye suffered a shoulder injury that threatened to end his career, which resulted in 3½ years of inactivity.

There’s a distinct possibility that the motivation behind his comeback is due to a lack of funds. And he’s not the only fighter in the history of the sport that competes solely for the sake of their bank balance.

After only competing in one competitive fight in almost five years, the man was entitled to rid himself of any ring rust against easy prey and to also recover his fitness levels. It is my belief that the vast majority fighters in his situation would have made the very same decision.

More than three million viewers in the UK watched Haye’s comeback bout against Mark de Mori on the anonymous UK TV channel Dave, which means he’s one of the sports’ biggest draws (at least in the UK).

More than 2½m people watched the Haymakers second comeback bout against Arnold Gjergjaj, which was staged in front of a sell-out 16,000 crowd at The O2 Arena.

I can understand the reasons why Haye endured another brief hiatus from the sport this year, due to undergoing divorce proceedings as recently as August, which meant that he may have not been mentally “right” during that arduous period to compete at 100%. Also, he may have been reluctant to allow part of his next payday (if a bout had already been scheduled) to be included in the pot of money that he was obliged to pay his ex-wife.

Also, with Tyson Fury vacating his belts, as a world-ranked title challenger, there must have been some indecision as to the direction of Haye’s career, as it was probably quite prudent for him to delay making any decisions about facing certain opponents until the sports’ governing bodies had decided who should compete for their vacant titles.

Anyway, we now know that the winner of the Parker-Ruiz Jr. bout is mandated to defend their newly-acquired WBO title against David Haye. So it makes sense for the Hayemaker to engage in an interim low-risk stay-busy lucrative fight in the meantime.

And from a business perspective, to receive a big payday by engaging in a low-risk bout against Tony Bellew, which will be a Sky Sports PPV event, is almost certainly a decision we’d all make if we walked in his shoes.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Haye's fights with Klit and Valuev were quite dull. Fury-Wlad level dull. Haye is a part time fighter and promised Briggs a shot. Whether Briggs deserves a shot is a whole other matter, but he did seem to renege on the deal.

He's not holding a belt hostage. As for the wlad 'fight', he took all the heat when the giant talked just as much poo and didn't deliver a single damaging blow. It's fine to criticize them both for that abomination. Now? Don't watch. Briggs? Lol, bellew would stomp him.

Regarding not watching Briggs, I plead guilty to wanting to see him in a big fight to shut his mouth. Or to surprise everyone, which is unlikely, but would also be entertaining.

I meant haye's fights. Reminds me of the tnf bouts with old men. I don't blame anyone for not giving a damn, but it's not hurting the sport. War haye!

[Kalan]

He's never fighting Parker or any top heavyweight other than his Joshua cashout.

So you think that Haye will walk into the ring with Joshua thinking he's going to lose?

No, but it's the only top heavyweight I see him stepping inside a ring with. I see Joshua as the most winnable fight for Haye out of the top guys stylistically, even though I don't think Joshua is the worst fighter of the top guys.

Joshua should beat Haye very easily... But he'd kill Parker, the man is wide open as Takam proved... I think Haye-Wilder is 50/50... Haye-Ortiz is close but I'll take Ortiz... I think he beats an old Wladimir... Povetkin is a very close fight... Fury I don't think can happen based on his 2 pullouts.