Lomachenko P4P #1!

[Baby Face Finster]

That's right, we just saw the best fighter in the world...better than Triple G, better than Ward, better than Gonzalez, better than Rigondull...better than anyone else. He just took apart a very dangerous fighter and made it look easy.

[tigermoth87]

Agreed

[diddy]

I won't vehemently argue against it. He is tremendous. I look forward to his superfight with Bud Crawford down the line.

[boxing_rocks]

Top four p4p fighters in the world right now (in arbitrary order) are Gonzalez, Lomachenko, Crawford and Golovkin.

[Tanzio]

I'm not ready to go there. He did not just fight a boxer anywhere close to the level of Krusher or Ward. Walters is not on that level, especially given his inactivity and even back a year ago his power was not transferring up.

Loma appears destined for at or near the top but I would not put him top five yet.

[Ricky_]

What a fighter.

[diddy]

The eye test on Lomo tells the tale. Sure he doesn't have a Ward or Kovalev to face but his skills are just insane. He's basically a perfect fighter.

[Tanzio]

The eye test on Lomo tells the tale. Sure he doesn't have a Ward or Kovalev to face but his skills are just insane. He's basically a perfect fighter.

He is a really special talent, and I love that he does not have a zero to defend. If he goes to 135 and takes down Mikey late next year he would likely be right at the top depending on what Ward and Crawford and 3G and Pac do.

[5burowz]

Put down the crack pipe

[gilgamesh]

I have him #2 behind only Chocolatito, but if you wanted to put him #1 I could see it.

[crusader]

He's moving up the P4P rankings, but I wouldn't have him at the top yet.

Put down the crack pipe

So how much was Walters paid off? You didn't say on the other forum. Does this fight not count on Loma's resume then?

[Freedom2013]

Lomachenko is clearly in the top 5 P4P.

And he's more talented than the other four in the top 5. Walters is a very good fighter, and Loma made him look like an unskilled brawler.

[greg]

..excellent boxing skills, but he's not there yet...

[Jip]

i always told you loma was 1 or 2

[Jip]

I have him #2 behind only Chocolatito, but if you wanted to put him #1 I could see it.

choco doesnt have teh skills or the physic as loma, he is totaly inferior to him

[davie]

The guy's a phenomenon, technically brilliant and probably the most talented fighter out there.

But in terms of topping the p4p list, if all things were equal and everyone was the same weight and height, could Rigo run rings round him on the outside? Could GGG walk through his shots, cut off the ring and punch holes in him? Could Ward pot shot, rough him up on the inside and take a decision? Could Kovalev find him with the one right hand needed to put him down? Could Chocolatito pressure him for the 12 and wear him down.

I don't know the answers to these questions. The eye test tells me these guys would struggle to lay a glove on him. But we really need to see him in with a better level of opposition.

I do struggle to make an argument for anyone being a better fighter than Lomachenko though, however I get the feeling there is a style of fighter out there that could solve this puzzle.

Then again, I spent a decade saying the same about Floyd

[davie]

I have him #2 behind only Chocolatito, but if you wanted to put him #1 I could see it.

choco doesnt have teh skills or the physic as loma, he is totaly inferior to him

Better than Rigo?

[Jip]

I have him #2 behind only Chocolatito, but if you wanted to put him #1 I could see it.

choco doesnt have teh skills or the physic as loma, he is totaly inferior to him

Better than Rigo?

rigo and loma are like 1-2 in boxing. both amateur legends, both gold, both superior athletic and superior skilled to anybody in the world of boxing right now. after watching loma fight i am not sure if rigo right now is better than loma. close call, i am not sure, but these 2 are the best.

[Jip]

The guy's a phenomenon, technically brilliant and probably the most talented fighter out there.

But in terms of topping the p4p list, if all things were equal and everyone was the same weight and height, could Rigo run rings round him on the outside? Could GGG walk through his shots, cut off the ring and punch holes in him? Could Ward pot shot, rough him up on the inside and take a decision? Could Kovalev find him with the one right hand needed to put him down? Could Chocolatito pressure him for the 12 and wear him down.

I don't know the answers to these questions. The eye test tells me these guys would struggle to lay a glove on him. But we really need to see him in with a better level of opposition.

I do struggle to make an argument for anyone being a better fighter than Lomachenko though, however I get the feeling there is a style of fighter out there that could solve this puzzle.

Then again, I spent a decade saying the same about Floyd

good post

[crow]

Loma is a unique fighter.

It's hard to tell whether he does his work from the inside or from the outside; he seems to neither arm punch and to neither put his whole weight into them.
He's neither a face forward brawler or a safety first from the outside guy.

He's constantly in the middle of these things, shifting, moving and dancing.

It remains to be seen whether he can beat the very top fighters. His style predisposes him to being robbed on the cards, like he was vs Salido.

I would love to see him vs Rigo.
That fight would answer a lot of questions.

[DannyMCR]

I agree. I'd like to see somebody make a case against him being #1

[Ian1973]

Lomochenko is unique for me his work rate puts him above rigo who admires his work a bit where as lomochenko jumped all over a dangerous Walters rigo would never of done that . He is the most talented fighter right now and he's beat good fighters in Russell jr and Walters . You could argue that he's already beat better fighters than GGG .

I think Kell Brook is a top fighter but other than him you make a good point. Russell and Walters are extremely good fighters. Walters beat the likes of Donaire and Loma absolutely owned Walters. He is seriously talented.

[MaxiBoxc]

I won't vehemently argue against it. He is tremendous. I look forward to his superfight with Bud Crawford down the line.

I think Bud is only one who can give a good fight to Hi-Tech at weight classes till super lightweight.

[MaxiBoxc]

Lomachenko is clearly in the top 5 P4P.

And he's more talented than the other four in the top 5. Walters is a very good fighter, and Loma made him look like an unskilled brawler.

So true.
I think new era in boxing will be called by his name.

[caldo2025]

That's right, we just saw the best fighter in the world...better than Triple G, better than Ward, better than Gonzalez, better than Rigondull...better than anyone else. He just took apart a very dangerous fighter and made it look easy.

Ridiculous. The guy's had 8 fights and he's already got a loss on his record. You people make me laugh. He legitimately got beaten by an older boxer in Salido but you all just want to rush to crown him because he beat a fighter last night that has been idle for over a year and has ZERO heart.

GGG is undefeated and no one can even make it to the final bell but you wan to award it to this punk who's gotten everything handed to him on a silver platter. He gets 3 title fights handed to him in his first 7 fights. Go screw, the lot of you. You are all ridiculous.