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you saw the comparison. you guys saw kovalev-ward and lomachenko-walthers.

you saw what i saw. dont tell me Kovalev's or ward's footwork, athletiscm, punch variation, overall speed, upper body movemant equals to lomachenko's. hands down, loma is just the better boxer than these 2. i have always been right. rigondeaux and lomachenko are boxing royalty, 1 and 2. thats it.

Jip wrote:you saw the comparison. you guys saw kovalev-ward and lomachenko-walthers.

you saw what i saw. dont tell me Kovalev's or ward's footwork, athletiscm, punch variation, overall speed, upper body movemant equals to lomachenko's. hands down, loma is just the better boxer than these 2. i have always been right. rigondeaux and lomachenko are boxing royalty, 1 and 2. thats it.

Lomachenko will be #1 so soon. And what about Rigo? He is great, but Vasyl is better. Lomachenko is more various fighter, that's why he can attack like no one other. And that's why he is so spectscular.

Very good fighter, ridiculous when max and lampley were implying he throws more punches than a prime Whitaker. They musta forgot.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very good fighter, ridiculous when max and lampley were implying he throws more punches than a prime Whitaker. They musta forgot.

u dont think both about equal

Jip wrote:you saw the comparison. you guys saw kovalev-ward and lomachenko-walthers.

you saw what i saw. dont tell me Kovalev's or ward's footwork, athletiscm, punch variation, overall speed, upper body movemant equals to lomachenko's. hands down, loma is just the better boxer than these 2. i have always been right. rigondeaux and lomachenko are boxing royalty, 1 and 2. thats it.

Lomachenko was willing to leave his prime weight of 126 early in search of money and glory, Rigondeaux seems to be locked into wanting to stay in his best weight and niche of 122 and not searching for glory and money at 126 to this point.

Jip wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very good fighter, ridiculous when max and lampley were implying he throws more punches than a prime Whitaker. They musta forgot.

u dont think both about equal

I think Whitaker was more active.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Jip wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very good fighter, ridiculous when max and lampley were implying he throws more punches than a prime Whitaker. They musta forgot.

u dont think both about equal

I think Whitaker was more active.

And couldn't punch

boxingknockout wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Jip wrote:
u dont think both about equal

I think Whitaker was more active.

And couldn't punch

Sure he could.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: I think Whitaker was more active.

And couldn't punch

Sure he could.

sorry which one of the 17 kos in 45 fights convinced you he's a puncher???

boxingknockout wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:
And couldn't punch

Sure he could.

sorry which one of the 17 kos in 45 fights convinced you he's a puncher???

He hurt just about everyone he fought. The hurtado fight, he needed a ko and he got it. He was a boxer, acting like he was malignaggi is laughable.

Now he's better than Whitaker lets see in another 4/5 year's about that.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Now he's better than Whitaker lets see in another 4/5 year's about that.

Did someone say that?

punchoutsb wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Now he's better than Whitaker lets see in another 4/5 year's about that.

Did someone say that?

Salido said it

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Now he's better than Whitaker lets see in another 4/5 year's about that.

Certainly better than Walters though, isnt he?

But he lost in his second pro fight to world champ Orlando Salido!

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Now he's better than Whitaker lets see in another 4/5 year's about that.

Did someone say that?

Salido said it

That's crazy, I hadn't seen that. But Salido has obvious interest in getting paid again.

punchoutsb wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
Did someone say that?

Salido said it

That's crazy, I hadn't seen that. But Salido has obvious interest in getting paid again.

Of cause and he wants a million

What are the odds he actually makes weight this time?

When and to whom did Salido mention Whitaker? I thought Clive was just having a dig at Loma's loss (after having also predicated that hed get KO'd in 5 by Walters), although maybe Im wrong,

Jip wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very good fighter, ridiculous when max and lampley were implying he throws more punches than a prime Whitaker. They musta forgot.

u dont think both about equal

Whitaker lost to Ramirez, De La Hoya, and Trinidad because of his low activity level... But after only 2 pro fights, Lomachenko dominated a much better boxer-puncher than those 3 in Gary Russell... His footwork, hand speed and work rate were unbelievable throughout vs Russell, and he captured a major World Title in only his 3rd pro fight.. They compared him with Willie Pep last night, which is absurd.. Willie was a weak hitter. Loma can throw.

Lomacheko waved goodbye to Walters at the end of the 7th...meaning, "You're outta here in the next round" ... Vasyl shouldn't have done that. Walters quit.

Kalan wrote:

Jip wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very good fighter, ridiculous when max and lampley were implying he throws more punches than a prime Whitaker. They musta forgot.

u dont think both about equal

Whitaker lost to Ramirez, De La Hoya, and Trinidad because of his low activity level... But after only 2 pro fights, Lomachenko dominated a much better boxer-puncher than those 3 in Gary Russell... His footwork, hand speed and work rate were unbelievable throughout vs Russell, and he captured a major World Title in only his 3rd pro fight.. They compared him with Willie Pep last night, which is absurd.. Willie was a weak hitter. Loma can throw.

Lomacheko waved goodbye to Walters at the end of the 7th...meaning, "You're outta here in the next round" ... Vasyl shouldn't have done that. Walters quit.

gary russel is better than de la hoya and tito?

Jip wrote:

Kalan wrote:

Jip wrote:
u dont think both about equal

Whitaker lost to Ramirez, De La Hoya, and Trinidad because of his low activity level... But after only 2 pro fights, Lomachenko dominated a much better boxer-puncher than those 3 in Gary Russell... His footwork, hand speed and work rate were unbelievable throughout vs Russell, and he captured a major World Title in only his 3rd pro fight.. They compared him with Willie Pep last night, which is absurd.. Willie was a weak hitter. Loma can throw.

Lomacheko waved goodbye to Walters at the end of the 7th...meaning, "You're outta here in the next round" ... Vasyl shouldn't have done that. Walters quit.

gary russel is better than de la hoya and tito?

you can't make this sh!t up, but Kalan can. Better than Pep too? Wow, why even bother fighting anymore? According to Kalan Loma's already a Goat.

You damned right... Oscar had a forward head, allowing Floyd to easily reach him with the jab and land 86 more punches.. Hopkins and Winky jabbed the crap out of Trinidad because he loads his jab.. Russell is way shorter than Hyland and Gonzalez but he jabbed the living crap out of them and KO'd them quickly.

Russell only had 1 fight this year and 1 fight last year.. Santa Cruz, Mares, Selby, and Frampton are ducking him, because he'll smash them out like there's no tomorrow.. It was a tremendous advantage for Oscar to be able to name his opponents.. Gary can't do that, but he's a better fighter.

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Kalan wrote:You damned right... Oscar had a forward head, allowing Floyd to easily reach him with the jab and land 86 more punches.. Hopkins and Winky jabbed the crap out of Trinidad because he loads his jab.. Russell is way shorter than Hyland and Gonzalez but he jabbed the living crap out of them and KO'd them quickly.

Russell only had 1 fight this year and 1 fight last year.. Santa Cruz, Mares, Selby, and Frampton are ducking him, because he'll smash them out like there's no tomorrow.. It was a tremendous advantage for Oscar to be able to name his opponents.. Gary can't do that, but he's a better fighter.

Let's review; Gary Russell Jr. is better than Odlh and Tito according to Kalan. In otherwords, Loma beating Russell jr is a superior feat to defeating Oscar and Trinidad.

Ok, thanks for that. If it were possible to disagree more than 100% that is where my opinion would be. Odlh and Tito are ATGs Kalan. Russell jr is unlikely to get a sniff of the HOF.

Loma is a wonderful talent. Rather than doing everything you can to ruin the experience of observing his great talent, why not just let him prove how great he can become rather than hawking him like a used car?

Will see how he fares against the likes of Crawford and Mikey Garcia should he get into the ring with either of them

5burowz wrote:Will see how he fares against the likes of Crawford

Why not Wilder ?