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"First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 09:02
by SAPFO
Respect to Yafai for a great performance, and this is no dig at him. But Sky's glossing over history annoys me. The first modern Birmingham fighter to hold a recognised world belt was Wayne Elcock when he won't he WBU Middleweight Championship. It is a world belt regardless of what order people favour their world belts. Some great fighters have won WBU's. So technically Sky are talking shite.

Same with football. You'd think it began in 1992.

Let's not forget boxers of the past to bled for our entertainment.

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 09:45
by bruthead
Nah.

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 09:48
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Charley Mitchell - a nemisis of John L. Sullivan was a Brummie world (bareknuckle) boxing champion, back in the 19th century. :box:

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 09:55
by Stuarty
SAPFO wrote:Respect to Yafai for a great performance, and this is no dig at him. But Sky's glossing over history annoys me. The first modern Birmingham fighter to hold a recognised world belt was Wayne Elcock when he won't he WBU Middleweight Championship. It is a world belt regardless of what order people favour their world belts. Some great fighters have won WBU's. So technically Sky are talking shite.

Same with football. You'd think it began in 1992.

Let's not forget boxers of the past to bled for our entertainment.
WBU isn't a legitimate world strap. Lawrence Murphy held the same title as Wayne Elcock fgs!

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 09:56
by craigjenkins05
There's no way anyone considers the WBU a legitimate world title

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 09:59
by keithmoonhangover
Stuarty30 wrote:
SAPFO wrote:Respect to Yafai for a great performance, and this is no dig at him. But Sky's glossing over history annoys me. The first modern Birmingham fighter to hold a recognised world belt was Wayne Elcock when he won't he WBU Middleweight Championship. It is a world belt regardless of what order people favour their world belts. Some great fighters have won WBU's. So technically Sky are talking shite.

Same with football. You'd think it began in 1992.

Let's not forget boxers of the past to bled for our entertainment.
WBU isn't a legitimate world strap. Lawrence Murphy held the same title as Wayne Elcock fgs!
:lol: :OhYes: I

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 10:04
by ShadrachSimmo
Stuarty30 wrote:
SAPFO wrote:Respect to Yafai for a great performance, and this is no dig at him. But Sky's glossing over history annoys me. The first modern Birmingham fighter to hold a recognised world belt was Wayne Elcock when he won't he WBU Middleweight Championship. It is a world belt regardless of what order people favour their world belts. Some great fighters have won WBU's. So technically Sky are talking shite.

Same with football. You'd think it began in 1992.

Let's not forget boxers of the past to bled for our entertainment.
WBU isn't a legitimate world strap. Lawrence Murphy held the same title as Wayne Elcock fgs!
Lee Mcallister is a 2 weight undefeated world champion also.

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 10:08
by veriton
if we're talking about undefeated world middleweight champions we've got to put lester jacobs in there.

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 10:38
by jizzle
Stuarty30 wrote:
SAPFO wrote:Respect to Yafai for a great performance, and this is no dig at him. But Sky's glossing over history annoys me. The first modern Birmingham fighter to hold a recognised world belt was Wayne Elcock when he won't he WBU Middleweight Championship. It is a world belt regardless of what order people favour their world belts. Some great fighters have won WBU's. So technically Sky are talking shite.

Same with football. You'd think it began in 1992.

Let's not forget boxers of the past to bled for our entertainment.
WBU isn't a legitimate world strap. Lawrence Murphy held the same title as Wayne Elcock fgs!
Well Sky peddled that shit for about 15 years...but I get ya

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 15:34
by Autobarn
Warren and Eddie Hearn (think Hearn was putting on IBO though) definitely encouraged the fringe world titles.

Had the feeling Sky was tolerating rather than pushing it.

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 15:59
by ElJefe
Come on, we can't complain about the number of bullshit world titles in the sport and then say Yafai isn't the first from Birmingham because a WBU belt counts.

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 16:26
by maverick23
Autobarn wrote:Warren and Eddie Hearn (think Hearn was putting on IBO though) definitely encouraged the fringe world titles.

Had the feeling Sky was tolerating rather than pushing it.
I don't think Eddie's ever been involved with IBO title fights. Barry may have though.

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 16:33
by The Insider
SAPFO wrote:Respect to Yafai for a great performance, and this is no dig at him. But Sky's glossing over history annoys me. The first modern Birmingham fighter to hold a recognised world belt was Wayne Elcock when he won't he WBU Middleweight Championship. It is a world belt regardless of what order people favour their world belts. Some great fighters have won WBU's. So technically Sky are talking shite.

Same with football. You'd think it began in 1992.

Let's not forget boxers of the past to bled for our entertainment.
Owen Moran

Re: "First Birmingham World Champion"

Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 17:00
by dr_devious
Fat Git wrote:Charley Mitchell - a nemisis of John L. Sullivan was a Brummie world (bareknuckle) boxing champion, back in the 19th century. :box:
Mitchell wasn't world champ, he lost and drew with John L and lost in round 3 to James Corbett.

Great fighter though, was a middleweight and gave Sullivan lots of trouble in both fights