Dunn v Brophy

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Dunn v Brophy

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Confirmed for the Commonwealth super middleweight title in Melbourne!

What's everyone's thoughts ? Can't see anything but a Dunn stoppage late on
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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What makes you in your professional capacity say that?
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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Good luck to brophy hope he brings it back!
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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Good fight this. I'd favour Brophy in the U.K.

Close fight this. I'm sitting on the fence til closer to the time.
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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How did Dunn look against Liam Cameron does anyone know?
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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edgey2009 wrote:How did Dunn look against Liam Cameron does anyone know?
I watched it on a internet stream and not a great one.. It was a very close fight. Dunn is nothing special does everything good.. He rightly so will go in as favourite. He has a good win against Bursak. In saying that I think brophy has a genuine chance here. Not a great deal of difference between them. Both not massive punchers, I think if Billy gets his tactics right. Which he normally does then this will come down to who is the fitter man.. I know all too well how hard it is to get a decision away from home but I'm going to Say Brophy on points..
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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Good fight Dunn is a very good puncher and doesn't stop throwing, my fight with Dunn on YouTube also the time difference is massive
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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Time difference can be huge
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Where going over 10 days before so that shouldn't be a issue
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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billy nelson wrote:What makes you in your professional capacity say that?
Maybe shouldn't have put "can't see anything but" as Brophy Defo has a chance but that's how I think the fight will play off! Great opportunity for him and hope yous can pull it off
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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billy nelson wrote:What makes you in your professional capacity say that?

When will you ever learn Billy?
This is an internet forum, it's where people like me, who don't know their arse from their elbow come to sound like experts.

:OhYes:

FWIW I'm picking Dunn by 9th round KO
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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Your of coarse entitled to your opinion, though I'd bet 85-90% of folk on here haven't seen Dunn, yet they make a prediction of a KO win, well that ain't happening #thenew
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billy nelson wrote:Your of coarse entitled to your opinion, though I'd bet 85-90% of folk on here haven't seen Dunn, yet they make a prediction of a KO win, well that ain't happening #thenew
I'm one of that 90% Billy.
But I did go and youtube the guy.
He looks crude but certainly heavy handed. Some unorthodox wide swinging hook, he certainly makes his share of mistakes.

I don't know a lot of your man either to be fair. He looked well out of his depth against Groves. But there's no shame in that, Groves would totally pick holes in Dunn and stop him IMO.

I am always very wary of someone with Brophy's very low KO ratio approaching a puncher. Of course he might be able to out box him but I always worry if the man doesn't have anything to deter the puncher, no matter how crude, he can let his hands go without a great concern of what's coming back.
And if he is going to beat him he has to be a full level above the guy, because punch power is a great leveller.

I hope I'm wrong (I am approaching this from a position of ignorance) and as with any Scottish fighter wish him all the very best but I'm sure even you'll admit, this is a big ask taking a dangerous fighter on in his back yard (a back yard that happens to be the other side of the world.)
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Dunn is very agressive , and very very fit , reasonable power , not to the standard of say Groves , But more than capable of handling guys below Groves standard , Your boy better be in top condition if he wants to edge this one out Billy ,, he'll not only have to match him for fitness but be fitter
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Granted Dunn is strong but he makes so many fundamental mistakes I beleive David will take advantage of,tough figh but One I fully expect David to win
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coneye wrote:Dunn is very agressive , and very very fit , reasonable power , not to the standard of say Groves , But more than capable of handling guys below Groves standard , Your boy better be in top condition if he wants to edge this one out Billy ,, he'll not only have to match him for fitness but be fitter
there prob no fitter boxer in Scotland than brophy
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billy nelson wrote:
coneye wrote:Dunn is very agressive , and very very fit , reasonable power , not to the standard of say Groves , But more than capable of handling guys below Groves standard , Your boy better be in top condition if he wants to edge this one out Billy ,, he'll not only have to match him for fitness but be fitter
there prob no fitter boxer in Scotland than brophy
That's impressive.

But you must remember; we Scots invented deep frying chocolate bars and think Buckfast tonic wine has medicinal effects. It would be like me claiming to be the most intellegent scaffolder at my work.
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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billy nelson wrote:
coneye wrote:Dunn is very agressive , and very very fit , reasonable power , not to the standard of say Groves , But more than capable of handling guys below Groves standard , Your boy better be in top condition if he wants to edge this one out Billy ,, he'll not only have to match him for fitness but be fitter
there prob no fitter boxer in Scotland than brophy
Should be a good scrap , nothing better than a bout , when you have 2 super fit and evenly matched boxers .. They don't have to be world champ material , has long has there evenly matched in fitness and skills ,, bar a shock first rnd ko your in for a good fight ....
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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billy nelson wrote:Your of coarse entitled to your opinion, though I'd bet 85-90% of folk on here haven't seen Dunn, yet they make a prediction of a KO win, well that ain't happening #thenew
I'm an Aussie who has watched many of Dunn's fights. I will need to have a look at some footage of Brophy before I can compare them though of course.

What I can tell you is Dunn had a comparatively extensive amateur career and is a born fighter. He is a more than adequate attacking fighter, who has shown fairly considerable improvement with both his stance and defence over his past few fights.
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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billy nelson wrote:
coneye wrote:Dunn is very agressive , and very very fit , reasonable power , not to the standard of say Groves , But more than capable of handling guys below Groves standard , Your boy better be in top condition if he wants to edge this one out Billy ,, he'll not only have to match him for fitness but be fitter
there prob no fitter boxer in Scotland than brophy
I'm not too sure about that. I know a few that are crazy fit. He is maybe in the top 3 lol
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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billy nelson wrote:
coneye wrote:Dunn is very agressive , and very very fit , reasonable power , not to the standard of say Groves , But more than capable of handling guys below Groves standard , Your boy better be in top condition if he wants to edge this one out Billy ,, he'll not only have to match him for fitness but be fitter
there prob no fitter boxer in Scotland than brophy
I reckon burns would argue with that statment
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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Ricky used to train beside David maybe you should ask him?
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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billy nelson wrote:Where going over 10 days before so that shouldn't be a issue
Think you will find it may or may not be an issue , you will not know until it comes ,, 10 days sounds a lot but each person is different , I'm speaking with the experience of doing the same trip that many times i can't remember how many .. I've been travelling back and forth for years , , Remember sleep deprivation they use for torture ... I personaly cannot sleep in the small chairs , no room , and uncomfortable , and have sworn i will NEVER do the trip again unless its first class and can stretch out ..

I found a stop over is ideal , with so much at stake i would pay myself and alter the tickets for a stop over in the far east just one night , then its a 8 hr flight to OZ , or depending on the airline , if you can arrive in Singapore on a flight with say a 10 hour stop , you can grab a hotel room at the airport , get 6-7 hours kip have a shower and arrive fairly fresh .

You may be lucky , and 10 days is enough , but for me I've done it and been ok 2 days after , but then again i've done it and been knackered for weeks , Too muc h at stake to risk it and remember your dealing with Barry Michaels , a great Aussie fighter himself who fought in the UK and abroad , he knows the score on travelling , and his boy will come first . . Good luck ,, I'll be on a houseboat trip at the time , but if i time it so i can be near a major town ,so i can hire a car , i'll get a couple of days off ,and come to watch this one
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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Good 50/50 fight if you ask me, transitioning to the time and home advantage could be the difference. I see it a lot like when Simmons fought in Germany. The thing is people moan when he fights lower level fighters then they write him off when he fights a good one. People argue with Billy but those who have seen brophy he's one of the nicest guys in Scottish boxing. One thing I did flag is his fitness. In one sense against Tobias Webb his fitness kept him in it but at the other sense he was shattered in the final rounds, I amnt sure if that was due to the high paced fight or just due to getting hurt. He does punch harder than his record suggests and its more accumulation that wears his opponents down. His sparring with Simmons is going to be key for this one.
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Re: Dunn v Brophy

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Brophys got no chance here. He should go with a better trainer after this loss.. A good trainer is very important.. look at how Groves regressed badly under that Irish guy. There must be a reason why no top fighters want to train with Brophys trainer, they all leave him. Josh Taylor told me he'd rather train himself then get trained by him!
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