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Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 15:32
by Ruthless-RKO
BS.com has been informed that undefeated heavyweight puncher Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs) of Cuba has signed on with powerful adviser Al Haymon.

"The Real King Kong" Ortiz, who turns 38 today, is managed by Jay Jiminez and promoted by Dade Promotions.

Last year, Ortiz saw action three times and under two promotional banners.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 15:40
by bigman1968
Ruthless-RKO wrote:BS.com has been informed that undefeated heavyweight puncher Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs) of Cuba has signed on with powerful adviser Al Haymon.

"The Real King Kong" Ortiz, who turns 38 today, is managed by Jay Jiminez and promoted by Dade Promotions.

Last year, Ortiz saw action three times and under two promotional banners.
Didn't he move from GoldenBoy to MatchRoom year ago? Hearns had enough of him? :maybe:

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 15:57
by DannyMCR
Oh dear, isn't he #2 for a shot at Wilder too? Never happening now

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 16:33
by In the know 85
bigman1968 wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:BS.com has been informed that undefeated heavyweight puncher Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs) of Cuba has signed on with powerful adviser Al Haymon.

"The Real King Kong" Ortiz, who turns 38 today, is managed by Jay Jiminez and promoted by Dade Promotions.

Last year, Ortiz saw action three times and under two promotional banners.
Didn't he move from GoldenBoy to MatchRoom year ago? Hearns had enough of him? :maybe:
appen


Hearn gave him 1 fight against the most scared fighter I've ever seen, an absolutely petrified Malik scott, who didn't engage for 8 rounds and bored Ortiz to death. Should have put him in with Joshua. But that was never gonna happen was it.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 16:33
by Enlightened-One
bigman1968 wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:BS.com has been informed that undefeated heavyweight puncher Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs) of Cuba has signed on with powerful adviser Al Haymon.

"The Real King Kong" Ortiz, who turns 38 today, is managed by Jay Jiminez and promoted by Dade Promotions.

Last year, Ortiz saw action three times and under two promotional banners.
Didn't he move from GoldenBoy to MatchRoom year ago? Hearns had enough of him? :maybe:
James DeGale is with Hearn and Haymon. Haymon isn't a promoter. This deal simply give Ortiz more options.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 16:51
by Ruthless-RKO
In the know 85 wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:BS.com has been informed that undefeated heavyweight puncher Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs) of Cuba has signed on with powerful adviser Al Haymon.

"The Real King Kong" Ortiz, who turns 38 today, is managed by Jay Jiminez and promoted by Dade Promotions.

Last year, Ortiz saw action three times and under two promotional banners.
Didn't he move from GoldenBoy to MatchRoom year ago? Hearns had enough of him? :maybe:
appen


Hearn gave him 1 fight against the most scared fighter I've ever seen, an absolutely petrified Malik scott, who didn't engage for 8 rounds and bored Ortiz to death. Should have put him in with Joshua. But that was never gonna happen was it.
Hearn signed him on a fight by fight basis.. he is also promoted by Dade Promotions.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 17:51
by Enlightened-One
Eddie Hearn was approach by Luis Ortiz to promote him. King Kong is still listed as a Matchroom fighter.

The precise terms of Ortiz’s promotional deal with Eddie Hearn has never been disclosed. King Kong has already done two fights with Matchroom and five days ago King Kong’s team confirmed with Hearn that they wanted to do more fights with the British promoter.

In addition to Luis Ortiz, Eddie Hearn promotes two other Al Haymon-advised fighters, Lee Selby and James DeGale. He’s involved in the decision-making process, but he has less control over these guys than he does with his other fighters.

Eddie Hearn talks regularly with Al Haymon, he is involved and he promotes these guys whenever they compete in the UK. However, the likes of Selby and DeGale have previously enjoyed bigger fight purses competing on American soil, which is simply a business decision.

Simply put: Ortiz will be promoted by Eddie Hearn if he competes in the UK, but if he chooses to fight on American soil, he’ll likely be promoted by one of Al Haymon’s affiliated promoters.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 17:52
by lefty
bigman1968 wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:BS.com has been informed that undefeated heavyweight puncher Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs) of Cuba has signed on with powerful adviser Al Haymon.

"The Real King Kong" Ortiz, who turns 38 today, is managed by Jay Jiminez and promoted by Dade Promotions.

Last year, Ortiz saw action three times and under two promotional banners.
Didn't he move from GoldenBoy to MatchRoom year ago? Hearns had enough of him? :maybe:
It was on a fight by fight basis.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 17:53
by lefty
Enlightened-One wrote:Eddie Hearn was approach by Luis Ortiz to promote him. King Kong is still listed as a Matchroom fighter.

The precise terms of Ortiz’s promotional deal with Eddie Hearn has never been disclosed. King Kong has already done two fights with Matchroom and five days ago King Kong’s team confirmed with Hearn that they wanted to do more fights with the British promoter.

In addition to Luis Ortiz, Eddie Hearn promotes two other Al Haymon-advised fighters, Lee Selby and James DeGale. He’s involved in the decision-making process, but he has less control over these guys than he does with his other fighters.

Eddie Hearn talks regularly with Al Haymon, he is involved and he promotes these guys whenever they compete in the UK. However, the likes of Selby and DeGale have previously enjoyed bigger fight purses competing on American soil, which is simply a business decision.

Simply put: Ortiz will be promoted by Eddie Hearn if he competes in the UK, but if he chooses to fight on American soil, he’ll likely be promoted by one of Al Haymon’s affiliated promoters.
Ortiz's deal with Matchroom was/is on a fight by fight basis.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 29 Mar 2017, 17:56
by Enlightened-One
IT wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:Eddie Hearn was approach by Luis Ortiz to promote him. King Kong is still listed as a Matchroom fighter.

The precise terms of Ortiz’s promotional deal with Eddie Hearn has never been disclosed. King Kong has already done two fights with Matchroom and five days ago King Kong’s team confirmed with Hearn that they wanted to do more fights with the British promoter.

In addition to Luis Ortiz, Eddie Hearn promotes two other Al Haymon-advised fighters, Lee Selby and James DeGale. He’s involved in the decision-making process, but he has less control over these guys than he does with his other fighters.

Eddie Hearn talks regularly with Al Haymon, he is involved and he promotes these guys whenever they compete in the UK. However, the likes of Selby and DeGale have previously enjoyed bigger fight purses competing on American soil, which is simply a business decision.

Simply put: Ortiz will be promoted by Eddie Hearn if he competes in the UK, but if he chooses to fight on American soil, he’ll likely be promoted by one of Al Haymon’s affiliated promoters.
Ortiz's deal with Matchroom was/is on a fight by fight basis.
Maybe you're right, I don't know. All I can do is quote the words uttered by Eddie Hearn when he was interviewed by iFL TV, Fight-Hype and Behind the Gloves. So for all I know, he could be lying.

For the record, I've just read Jay Jimenez claiming that Ortiz doesn't have a formal promotional agreement with Hearn.

Luis “The Real King Kong” Ortiz has just been added to the Andre Berto vs. Shawn Porter undercard, possibly against Derric Rossy.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 00:12
by boxing_rocks
He didn't get Joshua from Hearn, and no way in hell he is getting Wilder from Haymon.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 00:28
by SaadOffTheDeck
He's perpetually irrelevant.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 03:18
by bigman1968
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's perpetually irrelevant.
He(his management) didn't used his impressive win vs Jennings (btw, what happened to Jennings since???) to get million dollar fight, and the hype was lost at non-impressive/embarrassing fights with Scott/Allen.

I predict he'll fight more 3-5 small money fights to collect pension fund...

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 15:11
by In the know 85
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
In the know 85 wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
Didn't he move from GoldenBoy to MatchRoom year ago? Hearns had enough of him? :maybe:
appen


Hearn gave him 1 fight against the most scared fighter I've ever seen, an absolutely petrified Malik scott, who didn't engage for 8 rounds and bored Ortiz to death. Should have put him in with Joshua. But that was never gonna happen was it.
Hearn signed him on a fight by fight basis.. he is also promoted by Dade Promotions.
I think Hearn signed him to ensure he wouldn't face Joshua

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 18:01
by marvelous marv
I think he fights Wilder before the end of the year.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 20:03
by SaadOffTheDeck
I doubt ortiz would take on the likes of wilder.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 20:07
by Oiky
I think Ortiz would box wilders ears off

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 20:09
by jas80s
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I doubt ortiz would take on the likes of wilder.
At first glance, that seems counter intuitive to me. Given their recent track records, it seems less likely that team Wilder would want a fight with a guy like Ortiz. If I may ask, what leads you to believe that Ortiz would steer clear of a Wilder fight? Seems like a fight he should want since he seems to have a great big pile of nothing going on in his career.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 20:14
by SaadOffTheDeck
jas80s wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I doubt ortiz would take on the likes of wilder.
At first glance, that seems counter intuitive to me. Given their recent track records, it seems less likely that team Wilder would want a fight with a guy like Ortiz. If I may ask, what leads you to believe that Ortiz would steer clear of a Wilder fight? Seems like a fight he should want since he seems to have a great big pile of nothing going on in his career.
The steaming pile of nothing suits him.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 20:21
by jas80s
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
jas80s wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I doubt ortiz would take on the likes of wilder.
At first glance, that seems counter intuitive to me. Given their recent track records, it seems less likely that team Wilder would want a fight with a guy like Ortiz. If I may ask, what leads you to believe that Ortiz would steer clear of a Wilder fight? Seems like a fight he should want since he seems to have a great big pile of nothing going on in his career.
The steaming pile of nothing suits him.
Makes no sense to me, but as was pointed out to me by a fight manager years ago, "these guys do get hit in the head for a living"

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 21:11
by SaadOffTheDeck
jas80s wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
jas80s wrote:
At first glance, that seems counter intuitive to me. Given their recent track records, it seems less likely that team Wilder would want a fight with a guy like Ortiz. If I may ask, what leads you to believe that Ortiz would steer clear of a Wilder fight? Seems like a fight he should want since he seems to have a great big pile of nothing going on in his career.
The steaming pile of nothing suits him.
Makes no sense to me, but as was pointed out to me by a fight manager years ago, "these guys do get hit in the head for a living"
In all honesty I just tire of the trumping of Ortiz when he does less than nothing. I'm sure they'd fight each other if they were both given manicures and pedicures for life.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 22:04
by Wales
Ortiz, in his current guise, really isn't that good. I don't doubt that he was an incredibly talented fighter that would've beaten most of the top HWs , but not anymore.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 22:18
by Evander
Ortiz motivated might be a different animal, they didn't get enough out of him.
Send him out here.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 22:29
by Wales
Fighting another stay busy opponent in Brooklyn at end of the month. No good going through motions fighting guys like Dave Allen and Derric Rossy (??). Another wasted Cuban HW talent I fear.

Re: Luis Ortiz Inks Pact With Al Haymon

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 22:32
by Evander
Not yet it ain't.
Why did he not make it in the UK ?