Chavez Jr. Weighs in at 178

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"Chavez Jr. Weighs in at 178"

On Thursday, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. started his training day by weighing 178 pounds, 13.5 shy of his necessary contractual weight for May 5th.

There were concerns that Chavez Jr. would not be capable of making the contract weight of 164.5-pounds. Chavez Jr. has not weighed that low since 2012, when he was competing as the WBC middleweight champion. He weighed 168-pounds for his December bout and over the years he's come in as high as 172.

When comparing to another recent fight, Chavez Jr. appears to be on track to make the weight. Daniel Jacobs was 174.8-pounds when the WBC weighed him 30 days prior to his title fight with Gennady Golovkin.



For the fight with Canelo, Chavez Jr. hired Hall of Fame trainer Nacho Beristain and conditioning coach Memo Heredia. They are holding the training camp at the high altitude area of the Otomi Ceremonial Center in Mexico.

"I do not weigh myself every day because I don't believe there's a problem with the weight. At some point we are going to focus on that aspect and going through with the relevant diet, but for now we are eating well because we are working very hard. I weighed 178 pounds on Wednesday night. We go according to plan. I already weigh under 180 pounds," said Chavez Jr. to ESPN Deportes.

Chavez Jr said happily that Nacho congratulated him on his recent sparring session on Wednesday, when he did six rounds against two sparring partners who have been helping him since the beginning of the camp. At the end of the camp, they expect to get in 120 rounds of sparring. Sparring days are Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

''I was congratulated by Nacho. We are doing very well in all aspects, I feel acclimated, and looking forward to working and that is the important thing. I can tell the people that they are going to see a new Julio but I don't want to do it with words - I want to do it with facts,'' Chavez Jr. added.

Chavez Jr. aims to be around 175 at about two weeks out from the fight.

[Ruthless-RKO]

16 lbs quite a lot to lose in 5 weeks?

Then again he wants to be 175 by the 2 week mark?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

That's not much at all. About the same brook weighed 30 days from ggg.

[Enlightened-One]

16 lbs quite a lot to lose in 5 weeks?

Then again he wants to be 175 by the 2 week mark?

According to Eddie Hearn, Kell Brook drained himself from 185lbs in order to make the WBC-stipulated 176lbs weight limit at the 30-day weigh-in for the Golovkin fight.

Jacobs weighed 174.8lbs for the equivalent weigh-in for his bout against GGG. He managed to drain himself down to 160lbs for the official weigh-in, but it is rumoured that by fight time, he would have faced Golovkin weighing at least 178lbs.

Marco Antonio Rubio officially weighed 161¾lbs when he faced GGG, but his HBO unofficial ring-weight was 181lbs.

When Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. was competing as a middleweight, he rehydrated to 185lbs when he fought John Duddy, 179lbs against Billy Lyell, 181lbs against Sebastian Zbik, 179lbs against Peter Manfredo Jr., and 181lbs against Marco Antonio Rubio. The Mexican refused to step on HBO’s scales for the Andy Lee and Sergio Martinez fights.

One week after his 143lbs catch-weight fight against Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson rehydrated to 182lbs.

So Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. only has to lose 14lbs within a five-week timeframe in order to achieve his contractually-stipulated 164lbs catch-weight limit for the Canelo bout, which seems fairly doable.

[Tarkus]

14 pounds is not a problem at all. These guys are 20 pounds over the limit next day.

[boxing_rocks]

Jacobs lost almost 16 pounds in 30 days.

[Impractical Poster]

Shouldn't have any issues unless he just doesn't try at all.

[IKSRTFO]

He'll find a way to weigh in over.

[punchoutsb]

If he doesn't make weight easily then it's because he didn't try. Only 13.5 over he could make weight next week if he wanted.

[KiwiRider]

From what I have read, he is taking this fight very seriously. Living at altitude for months, his new trainer is notoriously tough, and most of all, he wants this.
I think he can make weight no problem

[p4p1]

Assuming he didn't drain for this weigh in he could make weight tomorrow if he wanted. No big deal.

[Wales]

A lot / some fighters are cutting 12-15lbs overnight before the day of weigh in

Rife in MMA especially

[Badhusker]

What did Canelo weigh? If it is not an official 30 day weigh in, why even bring it up?

[Happy Slapper]

I can't believe Kell Brook weighed 185lbs ever. Isn't he 5ft 8 or something like that? He'd be built like a bodybuilder to weigh that at his height. If that is true, how on earth does he make 147lbs?

Unless he was just really fat.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I can't believe Kell Brook weighed 185lbs ever. Isn't he 5ft 8 or something like that? He'd be built like a bodybuilder to weigh that at his height. If that is true, how on earth does he make 147lbs?

Unless he was just really fat.

He cuts a shitload of weight. He's not remotely fat at 180.i think he's at least 5'9, maybe 5'10.

[boxing_rocks]

What did Canelo weigh? If it is not an official 30 day weigh in, why even bring it up?

Canelo was 167.8 for the Cotto 30-day weigh in, so he is probably in 170s now.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

16 lbs quite a lot to lose in 5 weeks?

Then again he wants to be 175 by the 2 week mark?

According to Eddie Hearn, Kell Brook drained himself from 185lbs in order to make the WBC-stipulated 176lbs weight limit at the 30-day weigh-in for the Golovkin fight.

Jacobs weighed 174.8lbs for the equivalent weigh-in for his bout against GGG. He managed to drain himself down to 160lbs for the official weigh-in, but it is rumoured that by fight time, he would have faced Golovkin weighing at least 178lbs.

Marco Antonio Rubio officially weighed 161¾lbs when he faced GGG, but his HBO unofficial ring-weight was 181lbs.

When Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. was competing as a middleweight, he rehydrated to 185lbs when he fought John Duddy, 179lbs against Billy Lyell, 181lbs against Sebastian Zbik, 179lbs against Peter Manfredo Jr., and 181lbs against Marco Antonio Rubio. The Mexican refused to step on HBO’s scales for the Andy Lee and Sergio Martinez fights.

One week after his 143lbs catch-weight fight against Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson rehydrated to 182lbs.

So Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. only has to lose 14lbs within a five-week timeframe in order to achieve his contractually-stipulated 164lbs catch-weight limit for the Canelo bout, which seems fairly doable.

This weight class thing has been manipulated beyond reason at this point.
It's more like a group of guys who can all get down to the limit.
But that doesn't mean they are the same size.
Which then defeats the purpose of having weight classes.

[Enlightened-One]

16 lbs quite a lot to lose in 5 weeks?

Then again he wants to be 175 by the 2 week mark?

According to Eddie Hearn, Kell Brook drained himself from 185lbs in order to make the WBC-stipulated 176lbs weight limit at the 30-day weigh-in for the Golovkin fight.

Jacobs weighed 174.8lbs for the equivalent weigh-in for his bout against GGG. He managed to drain himself down to 160lbs for the official weigh-in, but it is rumoured that by fight time, he would have faced Golovkin weighing at least 178lbs.

Marco Antonio Rubio officially weighed 161¾lbs when he faced GGG, but his HBO unofficial ring-weight was 181lbs.

When Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. was competing as a middleweight, he rehydrated to 185lbs when he fought John Duddy, 179lbs against Billy Lyell, 181lbs against Sebastian Zbik, 179lbs against Peter Manfredo Jr., and 181lbs against Marco Antonio Rubio. The Mexican refused to step on HBO’s scales for the Andy Lee and Sergio Martinez fights.

One week after his 143lbs catch-weight fight against Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson rehydrated to 182lbs.

So Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. only has to lose 14lbs within a five-week timeframe in order to achieve his contractually-stipulated 164lbs catch-weight limit for the Canelo bout, which seems fairly doable.

This weight class thing has been manipulated beyond reason at this point.
It's more like a group of guys who can all get down to the limit.
But that doesn't mean they are the same size.
Which then defeats the purpose of having weight classes.

I agree. And often it's the fighters who spend the most on dieticians and science-based strength and conditioning coaches that can vary their weights the most, whilst continuing to remain effective inside the ring.

I understand the reason why they do it, to gain a significant size advantage over their opponents come fight night.

It's absolutely crazy when you see guys initially lose an abnormal amount of weight over several weeks and then regain as much as 25lbs within a day, making their physical appearance alter drastically over the same timeframe.

To put things into context, for some of his middleweight contests, Chavez Jr. was about the same size as Rocky Marciano was for several of his title defences.

[Badhusker]

This weight class thing has been manipulated beyond reason at this point.
It's more like a group of guys who can all get down to the limit.
But that doesn't mean they are the same size.
Which then defeats the purpose of having weight classes.[/quote]


To me it would be simple to keep things in bounds or on a level playing field, so to speak. Once a year each boxer weigh in, must be hydrated, and take a body fat test, and cannot go below 5%. They are allowed to lose .5 lb per day after the 30 day weigh in. Not only would it eliminate the big size difference, it would be much safer for the boxers. If you have a guy 6'2" and 5'8" at the same weight, with the same body fat %, they are the same size. Too many people confuse height difference with over-all size difference.

[caldo2025]

Perfecto! I've seen shots of JCCJR in training and he looked trimmed up so i'm pumped to see that he's on pace to make the weight easily. And make not mistake about it, he will make the weight EASILY. He's 13 pounds away and he's not even changed his diet yet or depleted his water weight. Boxers around that weight typically lose 5lbs of water weight in one training session. So he really needs to lose around 7 more pounds legitimately and then he's in striking zone and a day out from the weight.

I love this fight. I don't know why, but i think that's it's going to be a classic. Mexico's two most popular boxers, head to head, for the pride of the country? Yes Please. I know...I know....Canelo's the better boxer and the odds are in his favor. His combinations and power could be the best in the world at this point but something is telling me that this fight will be in doubt at some point and JCCJR has a chance to pull this one out somehow. Both guys have granite chins. It's going to come down to heart or someone dying in the ring, not willing to back down.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Perfecto! I've seen shots of JCCJR in training and he looked trimmed up so i'm pumped to see that he's on pace to make the weight easily. And make not mistake about it, he will make the weight EASILY. He's 13 pounds away and he's not even changed his diet yet or depleted his water weight. Boxers around that weight typically lose 5lbs of water weight in one training session. So he really needs to lose around 7 more pounds legitimately and then he's in striking zone and a day out from the weight.

I love this fight. I don't know why, but i think that's it's going to be a classic. Mexico's two most popular boxers, head to head, for the pride of the country? Yes Please. I know...I know....Canelo's the better boxer and the odds are in his favor. His combinations and power could be the best in the world at this point but something is telling me that this fight will be in doubt at some point and JCCJR has a chance to pull this one out somehow. Both guys have granite chins. It's going to come down to heart or someone dying in the ring, not willing to back down.

No top 50 p4p fighter loses to Chavez Jr at this point.
Not even a welterweight loses to him.
Just say you like the event because of the power of celebrity.

Chavez Jr. (2017) in a huge PPV match is a joke.

[caldo2025]

Perfecto! I've seen shots of JCCJR in training and he looked trimmed up so i'm pumped to see that he's on pace to make the weight easily. And make not mistake about it, he will make the weight EASILY. He's 13 pounds away and he's not even changed his diet yet or depleted his water weight. Boxers around that weight typically lose 5lbs of water weight in one training session. So he really needs to lose around 7 more pounds legitimately and then he's in striking zone and a day out from the weight.

I love this fight. I don't know why, but i think that's it's going to be a classic. Mexico's two most popular boxers, head to head, for the pride of the country? Yes Please. I know...I know....Canelo's the better boxer and the odds are in his favor. His combinations and power could be the best in the world at this point but something is telling me that this fight will be in doubt at some point and JCCJR has a chance to pull this one out somehow. Both guys have granite chins. It's going to come down to heart or someone dying in the ring, not willing to back down.

No top 50 p4p fighter loses to Chavez Jr at this point.
Not even a welterweight loses to him.
Just say you like the event because of the power of celebrity.

Chavez Jr. (2017) in a huge PPV match is a joke.

I can't disagree with that or defend JCCJR. For some reason, I've always enjoyed his fights as they are entertaining. This is a rare fight for me where I dislike both fighters a great deal so it's comforting to know that one of them will get knocked out in this one. That's a Win Win for me.

[Lackeos]

16 lbs quite a lot to lose in 5 weeks?

Well... 13.5 pounds. So, 13.5 pounds of legitimate body weight is a lot to lose in 5 weeks for anyone is isn't a morbidly obese world class athlete. But 3.5 pounds of actual body weight plus 10 pounds of water weight is not much of a challenge.

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According to Nacho, Chavez Jr. is already getting down to 172-pounds - which is 7.5 away from the contracted catch-weight for the Canelo fight.

"It's a good weight. We are working very strong. [Chavez Jr.] is weighing 78 kilos [about 172 pounds], he's eight pounds away. I do not think there should be problems [with making weight] unless he comes across a cow and eats it . He 's running an average of 10 kilometers to 4.000 meters high and is doing 200 repetitions, repetitions of speed," said Beristain to reporter Hector Islas.

"Sparring is going to start Monday with six rounds daily. He is already sparring, but now he's going to do it on a daily basis starting Monday. He is being helped by Javier Ortega and a welterweight named Alejandro Barrera. I think he's putting a lot of effort in. I honestly think we have a 47% chance [of beating Canelo]. There has been a lot more determination [from Chavez]."

[Asterix]

47% chance. Haha. I'd love to know what swayed him away from 48%.