Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Who do you rank higher? Kind of a hard choice but I pick Marquez for consistency.
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
FanMan87 wrote:Who do you rank higher? Kind of a hard choice but I pick Marquez for consistency.
It's razor thin but I have JMM edging it.
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Very very close but I think my first answer is that Morales win over PAC may shade it for him, notwithstanding my man crush on JMM
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Probably JMM but personally I preferred watching Morales. Pity they never met in the ring. I was a massive Barrera fan as a boy so preferred him over the two of em even though he has losses to both.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
It's pretty tight, I'd probably have to give Marquez the slightly higher ranking, Erik would have beat him though.
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It's pretty tight, I'd probably have to give Marquez the slightly higher ranking, Erik would have beat him though.
I thought you'd have had Erik all the way. Would have been a great fight.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Marquez late run is tough to ignore.Tomasino wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It's pretty tight, I'd probably have to give Marquez the slightly higher ranking, Erik would have beat him though.
I thought you'd have had Erik all the way. Would have been a great fight.
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Marquez late run is tough to ignore.Tomasino wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It's pretty tight, I'd probably have to give Marquez the slightly higher ranking, Erik would have beat him though.
I thought you'd have had Erik all the way. Would have been a great fight.
It is indeed. His skill seen him through some tough encounters at 135. Morales showed some skill and grit during his comeback, although I found it painful to watch at times.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
The maidana fight might be my all time favorite. I'm pretty sure it's the only fight that ever made me cry.
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Marquez.
I thought he outboxed Pac to a decision in III, then he starched him.
His fights from 135 up have been great too.
I thought he outboxed Pac to a decision in III, then he starched him.
His fights from 135 up have been great too.
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
JMM just for me. One of my favourites of recent years.
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
I have the utmost respect for both fighters. Erik Morales is one of my all time favorites, but I'd have to give the slight edge to Marquez. Both had stellar careers, but like Saad said the run Marquez put together late in his career is hard to ignore.
In my opinion Marquez is at least 2-2 with Pac (I felt he won the 3rd fight). Then you got the Fight of the Year with Juan Diaz, the wins over Joel Casamayor, Michael Katsidis, Marco Antonio Barrera
Plus most of Marquez's losses other than the Mayweather loss were all pretty damn close fights that could've conceivably went either way (a fact that Marquez was sure to let you know about).
Both are great fighters and I figure 1st ballot Hall of Famers (Speaking of which Erik's year of eligibility should be approaching huh). It's a shame we never got to see them head to head at 126 or 130. Would've been a barnburner.
In my opinion Marquez is at least 2-2 with Pac (I felt he won the 3rd fight). Then you got the Fight of the Year with Juan Diaz, the wins over Joel Casamayor, Michael Katsidis, Marco Antonio Barrera
Plus most of Marquez's losses other than the Mayweather loss were all pretty damn close fights that could've conceivably went either way (a fact that Marquez was sure to let you know about).
Both are great fighters and I figure 1st ballot Hall of Famers (Speaking of which Erik's year of eligibility should be approaching huh). It's a shame we never got to see them head to head at 126 or 130. Would've been a barnburner.
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
JMM may have a career that can be considered ever so slightly shinier.....
But mutual primes, I believe Morales would beat him.
I prefer MAB to both of them but his career would probably not quite match theirs....but in my opinion his abilities do.
But mutual primes, I believe Morales would beat him.
I prefer MAB to both of them but his career would probably not quite match theirs....but in my opinion his abilities do.
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Definitely. It was a great era for that weight range. 126 and 130 was red hot when these 3 guys and Pac were all fighting each other in their primes.BoxBuzz wrote:JMM may have a career that can be considered ever so slightly shinier.....
But mutual primes, I believe Morales would beat him.
I prefer MAB to both of them but his career would probably not quite match theirs....but in my opinion his abilities do.
I guess Barrera wasn't quite at his best anymore for his fight with Marquez, but he was still very sharp and made a competitive fight of it.
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Stuarty30 wrote:Probably JMM but personally I preferred watching Morales. Pity they never met in the ring. I was a massive Barrera fan as a boy so preferred him over the two of em even though he has losses to both.
Barrera also beat Morales too. And I thought the Marquez fight was closer than they made it out to be while Barrera was cheated out of a KD.
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Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Prime for prime i'd side with Morales but Marquez has the longevity though, I know Erik had success late in his career too but he only picked up a vacant title and was a shell of himself I would've loved to have seen them share a ring though, Marquez carried on through the weights better
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Yeah twiceIKSRTFO wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Probably JMM but personally I preferred watching Morales. Pity they never met in the ring. I was a massive Barrera fan as a boy so preferred him over the two of em even though he has losses to both.
Barrera also beat Morales too. And I thought the Marquez fight was closer than they made it out to be while Barrera was cheated out of a KD.
Yeah you're right the JMM was closer than made out although the right guy won.
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Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Juan Manuel Marquez solidified his top 100 ATG pound per pound ranking when he stopped cold the great Manny Pacquiao in 6 rounds. He was the Pacman's most difficult opponent.
Erik Morales in my view, is a borderline top 100 ATG pound per pound boxer. It would not be bad if in some lists he is a top 100 ATG pound per pound fighter. At least, he got an argument in the top 100 than the overrated Lennox Lewis.
Erik Morales in my view, is a borderline top 100 ATG pound per pound boxer. It would not be bad if in some lists he is a top 100 ATG pound per pound fighter. At least, he got an argument in the top 100 than the overrated Lennox Lewis.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
Ahhh yes, this thread really needed Lennox Lewis in it.
Re: Erik Morales or Juan Manuel Marquez?
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ahhh yes, this thread really needed Lennox Lewis in it.
Next comes the rape threats. I'm almost scared.