WBC clarify they will never allow female boxers to compete more than two minutes or ten rounds

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WBC clarify they will never allow female boxers to compete more than two minutes or ten rounds

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WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman has confirmed his organisation will not consider women fighting over ten rounds or more than two minutes per round.

A UK report had stated some authorities would consider women boxing more than they do now for professional bouts, although Sulaiman did not agree in his latest edition of the 12th Round.

"As we celebrate how Women's Boxing is starting to finally shine in the major markets of boxing in the world, we see U.S. television finally airing female bouts, we see Cecilia Braekus' phenomenal career unfold, the Claressa Shields excitement, the several Mexican world champions as main events on Mexican television, Marisela Cornejo's journey to greatness, the Canadian Jelena Mrdjenovich's incredible TV documentary, and the debut of medalist Marlen Esparza with Golden Boy Promotions," pointed out Sulaiman.

"We sadly see some boxing jurisdictions take steps backwards and make decisions that can only haunt them and put our athletes in serious jeopardy. It has been reported that the U.K. will allow women to fight three-minute rounds!

"In a separate report, we will share what has been studied through medical research for years, which was also presented in the WBC's two female boxing world conventions. There is an easy formula: dehydration + fatigue + strong punch = possible tragedy.

"The WBC will never allow three-minute rounds, and will never allow any fight over 10 rounds. That will limit the dehydration and the fatigue elements to lower as much as possible the risk to a tragedy."

A host of Olympians, stemming from the first appearance at London 2012, are now taking to the pro ranks and the WBC are obviously committed to keeping things the way they have worked for a long time previously.
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If those arguments about fatigue and dehydration are true, why can men fight 12 x 3?
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This is kind of nuts when women do 5 minute rounds in MMA just fine.
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Orionx wrote:This is kind of nuts when women do 5 minute rounds in MMA just fine.
Yep... WBC is sexist :confused:
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davie wrote:If those arguments about fatigue and dehydration are true, why can men fight 12 x 3?
because men have superior stamina
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davie wrote:If those arguments about fatigue and dehydration are true, why can men fight 12 x 3?
Exactly. This is probably just another thing the WBC will contradict themselves on in the future. Pay no heed.
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Ah well, we all knew nobody should ever take the WBC belt serious any more after Vitali dropped his belt.
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Allowing women to compete under the same rules as men, such as introducing 12 three-minute rounds, would result in 16 minutes of extra competition in comparison to the current rules, which is a significant increase.

Whilst the women in UFC championship fights may compete in five-minute rounds, the duration of those is still eleven minutes less than 12 three-minute rounds.

I’d be interested in the scientific evidence the WBC possesses, because there seemed to be an absence of proof justifying the safety benefits for reducing the duration of men’s championship fights from 15 to 12 rounds.

Assuming it’s true that women possess less stamina than men, from a spectator perspective, it’s better to retain the current two-minute duration, because female bouts could end up becoming slow motion equivalents of their male counterparts, which would be pretty tedious to watch.
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WBC has no say at all in this matter.
ZERO.
If the commissions decide they are bumping the women to three minute rounds the WBC can sit on the sideline and cry about it or go along with it.
It is comical watching the alphabet orgs act like they have some kind of authority though.
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WBC should take the time & view some of the Women - Australian Rules Footy games http://www.afl.com.au/womens/video/match-replay ;-) :-P
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The WBC will be at a competitive disadvantage if all the other sanctioning bodies change to three minute rounds and 12 rounds. Jose Sulaiman said the WBC would never sanction women's boxing and now they provide more female belts than any of the other sanctioning bodies. If they are losing money in the future because of this stance, then they will change their stance. Nothing is etched in stone with the WBC.
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http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/1 ... unds-women

New Jersey is going to allow three minute rounds starting with the female boxing match scheduled in that state.

WBC just said they wouldn't allow it, New Jersey is pissing all over that parade.
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I emailed Mauricio Sulaiman and he has not responded to me yet. I stated that women run the same distance as the men for marathons which is 26.2 miles. World-class female distance runners do not seem to have a problem running fast marathons. There are also other upcoming female fights that are scheduled for 3 minute rounds. This issue is not going away and I think the WBC will be on the losing end of it. When a female fight goes the same distance as the men with 12 rounds and 3 minutes per round, it will receive worldwide attention. It will be like when the 4 minute mile barrier was first broken.
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I get the risks of longer fights, but we allow guys to do it. What's the evidence women can't handle it as well, fighting each other?
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Enlightened-One wrote:Allowing women to compete under the same rules as men, such as introducing 12 three-minute rounds, would result in 16 minutes of extra competition in comparison to the current rules, which is a significant increase.
Yeah I don't think it'd be right to go straight from 10x2 to 12*3, they'd probably should first go to 10*3 or even 9*3, and give competitors time to train for it.
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PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
davie wrote:If those arguments about fatigue and dehydration are true, why can men fight 12 x 3?
because men have superior stamina
Are there female marathon runners?
Are you saying because men finish a marathon faster, they have superior stamina?
This is all based on sexism.

I think all fights should be 8 rounds,
and 10 for fights between two top 20 fighters.

The length of sport competitions are more based on savage history, than actual science.
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From a selfish point of view I enjoy 10*2 rounds in female boxing as the tempo makes the action exciting. I can't imagine a fighter like Miyoshi fighting like she did last weekend over 10 rounds of 3 minutes ...
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
davie wrote:If those arguments about fatigue and dehydration are true, why can men fight 12 x 3?
because men have superior stamina
Are there female marathon runners?
Are you saying because men finish a marathon faster, they have superior stamina?
This is all based on sexism.

I think all fights should be 8 rounds,
and 10 for fights between two top 20 fighters.

The length of sport competitions are more based on savage history, than actual science.
All you have to do is watch Women's Boxing to know it's nowhere near the same level of skill and technique as male Boxing. That's not sexism. That's a fact.

The Best Female Boxer in the world has at least 500 male fighters that are better than her in her own weight class. Guaranteed.

More than that if you include Amateurs.
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Post by davie »

gilgamesh wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
because men have superior stamina
Are there female marathon runners?
Are you saying because men finish a marathon faster, they have superior stamina?
This is all based on sexism.

I think all fights should be 8 rounds,
and 10 for fights between two top 20 fighters.

The length of sport competitions are more based on savage history, than actual science.
All you have to do is watch Women's Boxing to know it's nowhere near the same level of skill and technique as male Boxing. That's not sexism. That's a fact.

The Best Female Boxer in the world has at least 500 male fighters that are better than her in her own weight class. Guaranteed.

More than that if you include Amateurs.
What have skill and technique got to do with stamina and the length of fights?
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Hopefully this somehow makes women's boxing more enjoyable to watch

Right now it's generally filled with relatively low skilled, feather-fisted action. Even gold medalists Katie Taylor and Clarissa Shields have struggled to seriously dent mediocre opposition; Christina Hammer, despite being naturally bigger than most her opposition, seems to be stuck in UD land; and Cecilia Braekhus, considered by many to be an explosive, P4P star in women's boxing, has 8 stoppages in 30 fights.
As someone partial to punchers, it's just hard for me to get too interested, though I will say that there is no shortage of effort applied in women's boxing.
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Pretty silly really, female boxers should boycott the WBC
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Post by lazboy »

gilgamesh wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
because men have superior stamina
Are there female marathon runners?
Are you saying because men finish a marathon faster, they have superior stamina?
This is all based on sexism.

I think all fights should be 8 rounds,
and 10 for fights between two top 20 fighters.

The length of sport competitions are more based on savage history, than actual science.
All you have to do is watch Women's Boxing to know it's nowhere near the same level of skill and technique as male Boxing. That's not sexism. That's a fact.

The Best Female Boxer in the world has at least 500 male fighters that are better than her in her own weight class. Guaranteed.

More than that if you include Amateurs.
Thats a pretty bold statement to make, esp regarding the skills department. I could understand men have better power, better chins, prehaps better stamina but skill. Have you seen UK's Katie Taylor. She's full of skill. Very fast, very good boxer. Not great power, not sure about her chin but skillfull nonetheless.
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davie wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Are there female marathon runners?
Are you saying because men finish a marathon faster, they have superior stamina?
This is all based on sexism.

I think all fights should be 8 rounds,
and 10 for fights between two top 20 fighters.

The length of sport competitions are more based on savage history, than actual science.
All you have to do is watch Women's Boxing to know it's nowhere near the same level of skill and technique as male Boxing. That's not sexism. That's a fact.

The Best Female Boxer in the world has at least 500 male fighters that are better than her in her own weight class. Guaranteed.

More than that if you include Amateurs.
What have skill and technique got to do with stamina and the length of fights?
Nothing, but I'm glad to see the Women's fights be over faster.
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lazboy wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Are there female marathon runners?
Are you saying because men finish a marathon faster, they have superior stamina?
This is all based on sexism.

I think all fights should be 8 rounds,
and 10 for fights between two top 20 fighters.

The length of sport competitions are more based on savage history, than actual science.
All you have to do is watch Women's Boxing to know it's nowhere near the same level of skill and technique as male Boxing. That's not sexism. That's a fact.

The Best Female Boxer in the world has at least 500 male fighters that are better than her in her own weight class. Guaranteed.

More than that if you include Amateurs.
Thats a pretty bold statement to make, esp regarding the skills department. I could understand men have better power, better chins, prehaps better stamina but skill. Have you seen UK's Katie Taylor. She's full of skill. Very fast, very good boxer. Not great power, not sure about her chin but skillfull nonetheless.
Yes I've seen the U.K's Katie Taylor, and I stand by my statement.
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