Funny thing is Tony Bellew has a better resume after 1 fight at HW than Wilder , LOL

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Funny thing is Tony Bellew has a better resume after 1 fight at HW than Wilder , LOL

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WTF is going with Wilder's career ? It is so coddled and protected. If Wilder is gonna fight Bellew, then Bellew is gonna be Wilder's best name he has ever faced. Lol
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wilder would crush bellew.
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hagler81 wrote:wilder would crush bellew.
Most people had write off Bellew against Makabu and Haye.
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apollo creed wrote:
hagler81 wrote:wilder would crush bellew.
Most people had write off Bellew against Makabu and Haye.
Haye's past it wilder is too big, too strong for him. Remember Bellew got smashed by stevenson
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That's like saying WHEN AJ beats wlad , he'll have a better resume than wlad
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cold187 wrote:That's like saying WHEN AJ beats wlad , he'll have a better resume than wlad
But he wont ahve a better resume IF AJ beats Wlad
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cold187 wrote:That's like saying WHEN AJ beats wlad , he'll have a better resume than wlad
NO, it's a different situation. Wilder was carefully matched against bums.
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If there's a tainted win it's Bellew over Haye.

But technically it's right, Bellew has a better name than wilder. Realistically and practically speaking though wilder has beat 2 legged opponents, so he's still above Bellew
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Hayes injury worsened alot more after the half way point and then he became a sitting duck, which Bellew should have got him out of there from that point tbh

But, Haye was still in half decent shape for the first 6 and after all his talk if he thought Bellew was dogsh*t and couldln't lace his boots he shouldl've mullered Bellew within 2! But he didn't, so all in all the fight has unanswered questions, not that I care if any of them get answered mind you, and yea Bellew do have a better resume than Wilder
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Oiky wrote:Hayes injury worsened alot more after the half way point and then he became a sitting duck, which Bellew should have got him out of there from that point tbh

But, Haye was still in half decent shape for the first 6 and after all his talk if he thought Bellew was dogsh*t and couldln't lace his boots he shouldl've mullered Bellew within 2! But he didn't, so all in all the fight has unanswered questions, not that I care if any of them get answered mind you, and yea Bellew do have a better resume than Wilder
Haye didn't or couldn't blast him out, but had won every round except the first, then in 6 he had the clear Achilles injury, that turned out to be ruptured. However anyone drums it up, that injury resolved that fight. Bellew was not winning before it.

Which is why Bellew technically has the better name in Haye at heavy, there's serious question marks around it. So it's a daft statement to make from Bellew.

They should rematch imo to sort out whose best. Bellew went on long enough about the rematch
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Ossyrules wrote:
Oiky wrote:Hayes injury worsened alot more after the half way point and then he became a sitting duck, which Bellew should have got him out of there from that point tbh

But, Haye was still in half decent shape for the first 6 and after all his talk if he thought Bellew was dogsh*t and couldln't lace his boots he shouldl've mullered Bellew within 2! But he didn't, so all in all the fight has unanswered questions, not that I care if any of them get answered mind you, and yea Bellew do have a better resume than Wilder
Haye didn't or couldn't blast him out, but had won every round except the first, then in 6 he had the clear Achilles injury, that turned out to be ruptured. However anyone drums it up, that injury resolved that fight. Bellew was not winning before it.

Which is why Bellew technically has the better name in Haye at heavy, there's serious question marks around it. So it's a daft statement to make from Bellew.

They should rematch imo to sort out whose best. Bellew went on long enough about the rematch
I think Haye looked sh*t from the get go tbh, he was swinging with what looked and seemed like no thought whatsoever his timing was all wrong, obviously his feet were terrible because that injury was clearly there waiting to happen

I would watch the rematch, it is unfinished business, and it does need a definite answer as to who is the best out of them as that ruptured achilles did decide what the outcome was going to be, and credit to Haye for sticking in there, I'm not just not particularly interested in it
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apollo creed wrote:WTF is going with Wilder's career ? It is so coddled and protected. If Wilder is gonna fight Bellew, then Bellew is gonna be Wilder's best name he has ever faced. Lol
Stiverne and Titeola would have absolutely poleaxed Bellew. Haye would not have made it out of round two v Wilder in the injured shape he was in for the Bellew fight.
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Fat bellew is so damn overrated. People realy stupid. I give gim 0 credit for beating a one legged guy . 50 % of all wilder opponents would wreck fat bellew
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Oiky wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Oiky wrote:Hayes injury worsened alot more after the half way point and then he became a sitting duck, which Bellew should have got him out of there from that point tbh

But, Haye was still in half decent shape for the first 6 and after all his talk if he thought Bellew was dogsh*t and couldln't lace his boots he shouldl've mullered Bellew within 2! But he didn't, so all in all the fight has unanswered questions, not that I care if any of them get answered mind you, and yea Bellew do have a better resume than Wilder
Haye didn't or couldn't blast him out, but had won every round except the first, then in 6 he had the clear Achilles injury, that turned out to be ruptured. However anyone drums it up, that injury resolved that fight. Bellew was not winning before it.

Which is why Bellew technically has the better name in Haye at heavy, there's serious question marks around it. So it's a daft statement to make from Bellew.

They should rematch imo to sort out whose best. Bellew went on long enough about the rematch
I think Haye looked sh*t from the get go tbh, he was swinging with what looked and seemed like no thought whatsoever his timing was all wrong, obviously his feet were terrible because that injury was clearly there waiting to happen

I would watch the rematch, it is unfinished business, and it does need a definite answer as to who is the best out of them as that ruptured achilles did decide what the outcome was going to be, and credit to Haye for sticking in there, I'm not just not particularly interested in it
I agree, Haye looked w*nk. As someone whose followed and supported Haye it was hard to watch. Haye is his pomp would have taken bellews head off his shoulders, and Tony wouldn't even see it coming, but the Haye that turned out against Bellew was a shadow of that

However, he was still 4-1 up in rounds, just by sticking a long jab out and controlling passive Bellew.

That's why I find it hard to give Bellew unwavering credit in this situation
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Ossyrules wrote:
Oiky wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Haye didn't or couldn't blast him out, but had won every round except the first, then in 6 he had the clear Achilles injury, that turned out to be ruptured. However anyone drums it up, that injury resolved that fight. Bellew was not winning before it.

Which is why Bellew technically has the better name in Haye at heavy, there's serious question marks around it. So it's a daft statement to make from Bellew.

They should rematch imo to sort out whose best. Bellew went on long enough about the rematch
I think Haye looked sh*t from the get go tbh, he was swinging with what looked and seemed like no thought whatsoever his timing was all wrong, obviously his feet were terrible because that injury was clearly there waiting to happen

I would watch the rematch, it is unfinished business, and it does need a definite answer as to who is the best out of them as that ruptured achilles did decide what the outcome was going to be, and credit to Haye for sticking in there, I'm not just not particularly interested in it
I agree, Haye looked w*nk. As someone whose followed and supported Haye it was hard to watch. Haye is his pomp would have taken bellews head off his shoulders, and Tony wouldn't even see it coming, but the Haye that turned out against Bellew was a shadow of that

However, he was still 4-1 up in rounds, just by sticking a long jab out and controlling passive Bellew.

That's why I find it hard to give Bellew unwavering credit in this situation
No doubt a Haye of old would've starched Bellew

Yeah, fair points there
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How does beating one-legged Haye makes Bellew's resume better? Any of Wilder's last 5 opponents would beat one-legged Haye.
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No, Bellew doesn't
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boxing_rocks wrote:How does beating one-legged Haye makes Bellew's resume better? Any of Wilder's last 5 opponents would beat one-legged Haye.
I very much doubt that TBH
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The truth is One-legged Haye > Stiverne, Molina, Scott and Arreola. LOL :OhYes:
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apollo creed wrote:The truth is One-legged Haye > Stiverne, Molina, Scott and Arreola. LOL :OhYes:
I doubt about Scott, I have no clue why Scott took a dive against Wilder, he probably received a lot of money for it.
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asdfjkl wrote:
apollo creed wrote:The truth is One-legged Haye > Stiverne, Molina, Scott and Arreola. LOL :OhYes:
I doubt about Scott, I have no clue why Scott took a dive against Wilder, he probably received a lot of money for it.
Stiverne and Arreola were small-fat with bad conditioning cherrypicks and Scott was a silly staged fight. Molina was a bum who got KO'ed by Arreola in 1 rd way before Wilder.
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apollo creed wrote:The truth is One-legged Haye > Stiverne, Molina, Scott and Arreola. LOL :OhYes:
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Footwork is arguably the most important part of a boxer. Without footwork u prety much done in a fight.
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Can't stand Bellew. Hope Wilder KOs him.
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apollo creed wrote:WTF is going with Wilder's career ? It is so coddled and protected. If Wilder is gonna fight Bellew, then Bellew is gonna be Wilder's best name he has ever faced. Lol
Stiverne was TBRB #3 when Wilder beat him.

Haye was unranked when Bellew beat him.

Your thread title is a lie.
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