WHO is the Most Pathetic Current World Champion?

[caldo2025]

Here's a list of some current world champions that continue to hold belts without facing a significant opponent or top contender in his weight class. These boxers obviously do not want to be tested and will do whatever they can to avoid facing anyone that could threaten the belts around their waist. Which is the most pathetic? Not talking about talent level, i'm talking about which guy is doing the most to avoid fighting anyone legitimate?

[verlichte]

Here's a list of some current world champions that continue to hold belts without facing a significant opponent or top contender in his weight class. These boxers obviously do not want to be tested and will do whatever they can to avoid facing anyone that could threaten the belts around their waist. Which is the most pathetic? Not talking about talent level, i'm talking about which guy is doing the most to avoid fighting anyone legitimate?

Some points to consider:

• Gary Russell Jr. has faced Vasyl Lomachenko & Jhonny Gonzalez.
• Adonis Stevenson agreed to face Sergey Kovalev, but the Russian declined a guaranteed opportunity to take the bout. And the Canadian has stopped Tony Bellew and Chad Dawson.
• Billy Joe Saunders defeated Andy Lee & Chris Eubank Jr. Gennady Golovkin "lost his pen" when he declined an opportunity to fight the Brit. Saunders is facing Avtandil Khurtsidze in his next bout, which is an opponent rated eighth by ESPN and The Ring, which is a higher rating than the vast majority of title challengers that GGG has defended his belts against.
• Guillermo Rigondeaux is generally "ducked" because, not only is he deemed as a "boring" fighter, but he doesn't bring any money to the table. And despite this huge limitation, the Cuban has defeated the likes of Nonito Donaire & Rico Ramos.
• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

If you do your research, every single sentence that I’ve written is factually correct. Therefore, where's the "none of them" option?

[Ossyrules]

Out of the list I'd say Saunders or wilder, but went with wilder

Saunders at least beat Andy Lee and eubank. Wilder has been overtaken by Joshua despite having nearly 20 more fights and reaching the pinnacle of the division earlier too

[Stuarty]

Saunders stint as champion has been fuckin awful! One defence against some Russian I'd never heard off and he looked like crap! Imhope the wee Georgian chins him but I think BJS will box his way to a decision.

[Tanzio]

1. You are forgetting the current Ring Champion; none other than The Traveling Coke Troll , also known as The Kong of Coke Mountain.

2. Close between The Future Star of Bambi on Ice and I Got Your BJS Right Here. Fighting Khurtzidse could fault him off this spot if Wilder does not get in the ring.

3. Lee The Invisible Man Selby.

[forestbox]

Lee haskins

[gilgamesh]

Deontay Wilder with Adonis Stevenson running a close 2nd.

[Rob3_142]

I guess the two strongest contenders are BJS and Wilder, but I don't believe that either are avoiding the fight. I think both are keen, and neither are short of calling people out, but there has been a combination of inactivity, failed mandatories and injuries which are likely to contribute the situation.

I expect both to have made a meaningful defence in the next 12-18 months.That being said, both reigns so far have been awful.

[Mexi-Box]

I put Stevenson. The man has been the worst. Wilder and Saunders are close second, but I think Wilder is worse. Saunders at least fought Lee and Eubank Jr. Wilder's best win is either Stiverne or Duhaupus.

[ProMayhem]

The only thing I like about Wilder is that he has been active! And I have enjoyed most of this fights

[ElJefe]

Went for Stevenson on the basis that he's held his belt the longest without challenging himself. Even if you give him a pass on Kovalev, I can't get my head around the Pascal fight not getting made. Aren't they both Haitian Canadians? At least there would have been some interest in that fight a couple of years back. Instead he fought guys like Bika, Karpency and Sukhotskiy.

[gilgamesh]

Went for Stevenson on the basis that he's held his belt the longest without challenging himself. Even if you give him a pass on Kovalev, I can't get my head around the Pascal fight not getting made. Aren't they both Haitian Canadians? At least there would have been some interest in that fight a couple of years back. Instead he fought guys like Bika, Karpency and Sukhotskiy.

Stevenson has fought Bellew and Fonfara though at least. Top 10 guys. Wilder has fought ZERO Top 10 guys since winning the title.

In fact Wilder is currently in talks to fight Bellew...who is one of the best title defenses from a current Light Heavyweight Champion...we've seen situations in the past where a successful Light Heavyweight Champion moved up to fight for a Heavyweight title, but only in today's age with cowards like Wilder holding belts do we see the guy who lost the title fight 2 weight classes below move up and get a shot.

[MachoTime]

Instead of Pathetic. Disappointing would be a better term for those fighters listed in the poll.

I think something like the winner of Briggs's vs. Oquendo could be or might be considered Pathetic.

[Lackeos]

Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

Wilder is 4 years older and turned pro 5 years sooner. And including the win over Klitschko, which there's no reason to exclude, Joshua and his resume are radically superior to Wilder in many ways. Like seriously, Wilder has managed to achieve 1 win over Bermane Stiverne in 8.5 years. Joshua has beaten Klitschko and Whyte in 3.5 years.

[verlichte]

Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

Wilder is 4 years older and turned pro 5 years sooner. And including the win over Klitschko, which there's no reason to exclude, Joshua and his resume are radically superior to Wilder in many ways. Like seriously, Wilder has managed to achieve 1 win over Bermane Stiverne in 8.5 years. Joshua has beaten Klitschko and Whyte in 3.5 years.

As I’ve already explained, my original comments were solely based on the calibre of opposition that AJ & Wilder faced (prior to the Klitschko fight). I refuse to defend a stance that I have never held.

In regards to your comparison of Stiverne and Whyte as opponents for Wilder & Joshua…

When Deontay Wilder faced Bermane Stiverne, according to The Ring, the Haitian was rated as the 3rd best heavyweight on the planet (behind Wladimir Klitschko & Alexander Povetkin), with ‘The Bronze Bomber’ ranked 7th.

When Anthony Joshua faced Dillian Whyte, The Ring rated AJ as the 10th best heavyweight, with his opponent being unranked.

Therefore, you cannot possibly compare Stiverne and Whyte as opponents for Wilder & Joshua, when you consider the real-world context of both bouts.

[man]

wilder had six meaningless WBC title
fights, which is quite an achievement.

[Loki]

Here's a list of some current world champions that continue to hold belts without facing a significant opponent or top contender in his weight class. These boxers obviously do not want to be tested and will do whatever they can to avoid facing anyone that could threaten the belts around their waist. Which is the most pathetic? Not talking about talent level, i'm talking about which guy is doing the most to avoid fighting anyone legitimate?

Some points to consider:

• Gary Russell Jr. has faced Vasyl Lomachenko & Jhonny Gonzalez.
• Adonis Stevenson agreed to face Sergey Kovalev, but the Russian declined a guaranteed opportunity to take the bout. And the Canadian has stopped Tony Bellew and Chad Dawson.
• Billy Joe Saunders defeated Andy Lee & Chris Eubank Jr. Gennady Golovkin "lost his pen" when he declined an opportunity to fight the Brit. Saunders is facing Avtandil Khurtsidze in his next bout, which is an opponent rated eighth by ESPN and The Ring, which is a higher rating than the vast majority of title challengers that GGG has defended his belts against.
• Guillermo Rigondeaux is generally "ducked" because, not only is he deemed as a "boring" fighter, but he doesn't bring any money to the table. And despite this huge limitation, the Cuban has defeated the likes of Nonito Donaire & Rico Ramos.
• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

If you do your research, every single sentence that I’ve written is factually correct. Therefore, where's the "none of them" option?

Pretty awful post. GGG would fight anyone, anywhere. After he beats Canelo (and if fat boy Saunders is still champion), let's see who's pen is available.

Agree with Rigo statement. Wilder has fought absolutely nobody. He gets my vote. His best win is Stiverne.

[Tanzio]

Fury is the Ring champion. He has been the most pathetic champion by any measure.

[verlichte]

Here's a list of some current world champions that continue to hold belts without facing a significant opponent or top contender in his weight class. These boxers obviously do not want to be tested and will do whatever they can to avoid facing anyone that could threaten the belts around their waist. Which is the most pathetic? Not talking about talent level, i'm talking about which guy is doing the most to avoid fighting anyone legitimate?

Some points to consider:

• Gary Russell Jr. has faced Vasyl Lomachenko & Jhonny Gonzalez.
• Adonis Stevenson agreed to face Sergey Kovalev, but the Russian declined a guaranteed opportunity to take the bout. And the Canadian has stopped Tony Bellew and Chad Dawson.
• Billy Joe Saunders defeated Andy Lee & Chris Eubank Jr. Gennady Golovkin "lost his pen" when he declined an opportunity to fight the Brit. Saunders is facing Avtandil Khurtsidze in his next bout, which is an opponent rated eighth by ESPN and The Ring, which is a higher rating than the vast majority of title challengers that GGG has defended his belts against.
• Guillermo Rigondeaux is generally "ducked" because, not only is he deemed as a "boring" fighter, but he doesn't bring any money to the table. And despite this huge limitation, the Cuban has defeated the likes of Nonito Donaire & Rico Ramos.
• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

If you do your research, every single sentence that I’ve written is factually correct. Therefore, where's the "none of them" option?

Pretty awful post. GGG would fight anyone, anywhere. After he beats Canelo (and if fat boy Saunders is still champion), let's see who's pen is available.

Agree with Rigo statement. Wilder has fought absolutely nobody. He gets my vote. His best win is Stiverne.

OK, if it's such an "awful" post, which don't you dissect each and every single statement and attempt to undermine the factual accuracy of my comments?

I'll tell you now, you won't be able to do this.

[Rob3_142]

Here's a list of some current world champions that continue to hold belts without facing a significant opponent or top contender in his weight class. These boxers obviously do not want to be tested and will do whatever they can to avoid facing anyone that could threaten the belts around their waist. Which is the most pathetic? Not talking about talent level, i'm talking about which guy is doing the most to avoid fighting anyone legitimate?

Some points to consider:

• Gary Russell Jr. has faced Vasyl Lomachenko & Jhonny Gonzalez.
• Adonis Stevenson agreed to face Sergey Kovalev, but the Russian declined a guaranteed opportunity to take the bout. And the Canadian has stopped Tony Bellew and Chad Dawson.
• Billy Joe Saunders defeated Andy Lee & Chris Eubank Jr. Gennady Golovkin "lost his pen" when he declined an opportunity to fight the Brit. Saunders is facing Avtandil Khurtsidze in his next bout, which is an opponent rated eighth by ESPN and The Ring, which is a higher rating than the vast majority of title challengers that GGG has defended his belts against.
• Guillermo Rigondeaux is generally "ducked" because, not only is he deemed as a "boring" fighter, but he doesn't bring any money to the table. And despite this huge limitation, the Cuban has defeated the likes of Nonito Donaire & Rico Ramos.
• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

If you do your research, every single sentence that I’ve written is factually correct. Therefore, where's the "none of them" option?

Pretty awful post. GGG would fight anyone, anywhere. After he beats Canelo (and if fat boy Saunders is still champion), let's see who's pen is available.

Agree with Rigo statement. Wilder has fought absolutely nobody. He gets my vote. His best win is Stiverne.

You can't say it's a 'pretty awful post' and then agree with what he's saying. It makes you look very silly.

[Cent0089]

It is a tough call, but Wilder and Stevenson at least get in the ring. Saunders win this one.

[punchoutsb]

• Deontay Wilder had agreed to face his mandatory challenger, but Alexander Povetkin failed a drug test. Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko were inactive for 18 months and Eddie Hearn has never attempted to make a fight between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Anthony Joshua. Apart from the Klitschko victory, AJ's resume is similar in calibre to Wilder's.

If you do your research, every single sentence that I’ve written is factually correct. Therefore, where's the "none of them" option?

You state Wilder's resume is similar in calibre to AJ apart from Klitschko. If you believe this is true, then you must believe Wilder is among the most "pathetic" champions considering AJ has 50% of the fights Wilder has had.

[amwsnw]

I dnt think Wilder or any of the others are pathetic. The time will come when the opposition steps up for Deontay whether it be Parker, AJ or another top raked opponent then we will see. But to call him pathetic is a bit rich.
Lets hope AJ doesnt price himself out of a fight with Deontay. Theres no doubt after the Klitschko fight AJ will be demanding massive money which may restrict who and where he can fight......assuming he gets past Wlad in the rematch.

[punchoutsb]

I dnt think Wilder or any of the others are pathetic. The time will come when the opposition steps up for Deontay whether it be Parker, AJ or another top raked opponent then we will see. But to call him pathetic is a bit rich.
Lets hope AJ doesnt price himself out of a fight with Deontay. Theres no doubt after the Klitschko fight AJ will be demanding massive money which may restrict who and where he can fight......assuming he gets past Wlad in the rematch.

I wouldn't call any real fighter "pathetic". It's a dangerous business and terms like pathetic, coward, and pussy are used too often to describe guys that are anything but. That being said, Wilder's resume is not impressive in the slightest. I wouldn't call him the weakest champion considering there are so many world champions in boxing today, but he's definitely not far from the weakest in terms of actual roster and resume.

[RScarf1]

I nominate Joseph Parker.