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Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 13 May 2017, 05:32
by apollo creed
CHAMPION:
GENNADY GOLOVKIN (KAZAKHSTAN)
WON TITLE:May 18, 2016
LAST DEFENSE:Mar 18, 2017
LAST COMPULSORY: September 15, 2012 by Chavez
WBA CHAMPION: Gennady Golovkin (Kazakhstan)
IBF CHAMPION: Gennady Golovkin (Kazakhstan)
WBO CHAMPION: Billy Joe Saunders (GB)
Contenders:
WBC SILVER CHAMPION::Immanuwel Aleem (US) ??
WBC INT. CHAMPION:Craig Cunningham (GB) ??
1 .- Jorge Sebastian Heiland (Argentina)
2 .- Jermall Charlo (US) * CBP/P
3 .- Daniel Jacobs (US) * CBP/P
4 .- David Lemieux (Canada) AMERICA
5 .- Sergey Derevyanchenko (Ukraine)
6 .- Immanuwel Aleem (US) SILVER
7 .- Matt Korobov (Russia)
8 .- Arif Magomedov (Russia)
9 .- Andy Lee (GB)
10 .- Antoine Douglas (US)
Ok, so between Immanuwel Aleem, Craig Cunningham and Heiland , who has the first shot at teh wbc belt ?
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 13 May 2017, 05:38
by Lennox
The number 1 in the rankings is or will be the mandatory.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 13 May 2017, 05:48
by verlichte
December 2016 - The number one contender, Jorge Heiland, has requested that he be officially named mandatory challenger for the title currently held by Gennady Golovkin. WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman says the WBC board would like a four-man tournament to determine Golovkin’s mandatory challenger.
The WBC ordered a four-man tournament between the highest available contenders to determine the mandatory challenger.
Immanuwel Aleem defeated Ievgen Khytrov by TKO6 on January 14 and won the silver title.
The WBC ordered Jorge Heiland vs. Jermall Charlo – final elimination to determine the mandatory contender.
That's what I've read - I don't know anything else.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 13 May 2017, 15:20
by Mexi-Box
Isn't Charlo the #3 contender for the IBF too? Damn, all the rankings want this dude to carry their belt. Man, I hope Charlo goes after the IBF instead because I want to see him get outboxed and KO'd by Derevyanchenko.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 13 May 2017, 15:37
by apollo creed
Mexi-Box wrote:Isn't Charlo the #3 contender for the IBF too? Damn, all the rankings want this dude to carry their belt. Man, I hope Charlo goes after the IBF instead because I want to see him get outboxed and KO'd by Derevyanchenko.
Jermall suddenly got in those rankings without doing nothing notable at 160 lbs. That's not fair!
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 08:35
by Badhusker
The ABC rankings over-all are pretty much a joke. A few make sense, but many do not. One example; Wilder is not even ranked in the top 15 in WBO, IBF or WBA.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 08:58
by ProMayhem
Jorge Sebastian Heiland has been ranked highly in the WBC for quiet awhile now. Not seen him
Since the Maklin win
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 09:11
by ElJefe
Badhusker wrote:The ABC rankings over-all are pretty much a joke. A few make sense, but many do not. One example; Wilder is not even ranked in the top 15 in WBO, IBF or WBA.
Organisations don't rank the champions from other organisations.
I think the WBC have tried to give GGG and Kovalev shots at their title before but other than that, you won't find any champions being ranked by other organisations.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 09:13
by Badhusker
ElJefe wrote:Badhusker wrote:The ABC rankings over-all are pretty much a joke. A few make sense, but many do not. One example; Wilder is not even ranked in the top 15 in WBO, IBF or WBA.
Organisations don't rank the champions from other organisations.
I didn't say they did.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 09:45
by sandis
Roman Karmazin used to be ranked #1 WBC for more than a year and never received WBC title shot. WBC #1 spot is a joke. Only IBF #1 spot means something
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 10:12
by boxing_rocks
apollo creed wrote:Mexi-Box wrote:Isn't Charlo the #3 contender for the IBF too? Damn, all the rankings want this dude to carry their belt. Man, I hope Charlo goes after the IBF instead because I want to see him get outboxed and KO'd by Derevyanchenko.
Jermall suddenly got in those rankings without doing nothing notable at 160 lbs. That's not fair!
WBO does even worse giving a champion from a lower division a direct shot at a title.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 11:40
by world ranked
Badhusker wrote:The ABC rankings over-all are pretty much a joke. A few make sense, but many do not. One example; Wilder is not even ranked in the top 15 in WBO, IBF or WBA.
That's simple a champ from another organization cant be ranked in another organization.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 11:45
by ElJefe
Badhusker wrote:ElJefe wrote:Badhusker wrote:The ABC rankings over-all are pretty much a joke. A few make sense, but many do not. One example; Wilder is not even ranked in the top 15 in WBO, IBF or WBA.
Organisations don't rank the champions from other organisations.
I didn't say they did.
Strange thing to bring up then. It wouldn't make any sense to rank other champions anyway.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 15:04
by Badhusker
I see your point, dumb example on my part. Here is a better one.......Spence only ranked by IBF and not at all by the others.
http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 16:17
by world ranked
Badhusker wrote:I see your point, dumb example on my part. Here is a better one.......Spence only ranked by IBF and not at all by the others.
http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2
Sometimes fighters give up rankings in other bodies when there close to a title shot with one organization. So to keep there rankings with other bodies they have to fight certain the fighters turn it down thus the bodies take them out there rankings. I'm pretty sure Spence was ranked by WBC & WBO but got taken out based on committement to fight for the IBF title.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 16:58
by boxing_rocks
world ranked wrote:Badhusker wrote:The ABC rankings over-all are pretty much a joke. A few make sense, but many do not. One example; Wilder is not even ranked in the top 15 in WBO, IBF or WBA.
That's simple a champ from another organization cant be ranked in another organization.
Golovkin was.
Re: Question about wbc rankings for the mw division !!
Posted: 14 May 2017, 17:59
by world ranked
boxing_rocks wrote:world ranked wrote:Badhusker wrote:The ABC rankings over-all are pretty much a joke. A few make sense, but many do not. One example; Wilder is not even ranked in the top 15 in WBO, IBF or WBA.
That's simple a champ from another organization cant be ranked in another organization.
Golovkin was.
He wasn't ranked they gave them interim belt because they wanted to get on the unification he wasn't ranked just given an interim belt.