Mixed feelings on GGG vs Canelo fight, maybe GGG is more clever than we think

[apollo creed]

The public perception may be that Oscar took this fight because he saw GGG vulnerable in Brook and Jacobs fights but if Golovkin took the foot off the gas a little and did just enough to win those fights to lure Canelo.

[gilgamesh]

I think Golovkin was genuinely troubled by Brook and Jacobs, but those 2 fighters bring different skills to the table than Canelo does.

[greg]

..I'm sure GGG did his best in Jacobs fight...

[Tanzio]

The public perception may be that Oscar took this fight because he saw GGG vulnerable in Brook and Jacobs fights but if Golovkin took the foot off the gas a little and did just enough to win those fights to lure Canelo.

Both Jacobs and Brook could possibly defeat GingerHead. Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr would have little to no shot at beating 3G. That is the comparison that you should be weighing. If their is a miscalculation going on it is Team GingerHead's misreading the quality of 3G's competition.

[montrealsuper]

great GREAT fighters like GGG have trouble getting up for mediocre fights like Jacobs and Brook. GGG will be very up for Canyellow. Consider Holyfield vs Czyz which was his previous fight before Tyson.

[verlichte]

In the last couple of years I believed that GGG delivered subpar performances against Willie Monroe Jr., Kell Brook and Daniel Jacobs.

When Golovkin faced Monroe Jr. and Kell Brook, I believed that he intentionally fought in a defensively irresponsible manner in order to deliver exciting “Big Drama Shows”, because he was facing much smaller guys that were also relatively feather-fisted at 160lbs. He knew that his opponents couldn’t hurt him.

I’d even go as far as suggesting that Gennady deliberately carried Kell Brook during the first round of their fight (as he took his foot off the gas instead of trying to close the show when he had his opponent in distress, on wobbly legs, whilst leaning on the ropes).

In terms of the Daniel Jacobs contest, I successfully predicted that Gennady would be far more cautious and defensively responsible, due to the fact he was facing a bigger opponent that was also a heavy-handed boxer-puncher. He didn't do much wrong in that fight, other than failing to close the show and perhaps he should have also tried harder to win rounds in a more decisive manner.

So GGG probably tried his best during that bout, but he may not have trained optimally (since he was supposedly facing someone that was considered a huge underdog). And I also wholly appreciate the opinions of those that believed that the Kazakh was relatively fortunate to emerge victorious from that fight.

To be honest, I reckon that Daniel Jacobs gave GGG wake-up call, meaning that he can no longer take his opponents for granted. I also believe that Golovkin probably rates Canelo as a serious threat to his unblemished record.

Therefore, I sincerely believe that we’ll see Gennady Golovkin at his very best and will raise his game for the Canelo bout. This won’t be due to any strategic game-plan to mastermind a fight against a marquee name – it’s just the way that the chips have fallen.

[ValMar]

I think Golovkin was genuinely troubled by Brook and Jacobs, but those 2 fighters bring different skills to the table than Canelo does.

It was very close against Jacobs, quite different story against Brook, and I can not understand the hype around Brook.........

[apollo creed]

The public perception may be that Oscar took this fight because he saw GGG vulnerable in Brook and Jacobs fights but if Golovkin took the foot off the gas a little and did just enough to win those fights to lure Canelo.

Both Jacobs and Brook could possibly defeat GingerHead. Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr would have little to no shot at beating 3G. That is the comparison that you should be weighing. If their is a miscalculation going on it is Team GingerHead's misreading the quality of 3G's competition.

It could be. Brook was pretty solid at 160 lbs.

[BitPlayer]

Then though it would have worked out it would also be top notch stupidity.

[BitPlayer]

The public perception may be that Oscar took this fight because he saw GGG vulnerable in Brook and Jacobs fights but if Golovkin took the foot off the gas a little and did just enough to win those fights to lure Canelo.

Both Jacobs and Brook could possibly defeat GingerHead. Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr would have little to no shot at beating 3G. That is the comparison that you should be weighing. If their is a miscalculation going on it is Team GingerHead's misreading the quality of 3G's competition.

Canelo would slaughter Brook, and it's debatable if GGG beat Jacobs at all.

[Jip]

Brook and jacobs are hardcore opponents. No shame in losing some rounds. Ggg will destroy canelo.

[ValMar]

The public perception may be that Oscar took this fight because he saw GGG vulnerable in Brook and Jacobs fights but if Golovkin took the foot off the gas a little and did just enough to win those fights to lure Canelo.

Both Jacobs and Brook could possibly defeat GingerHead. Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr would have little to no shot at beating 3G. That is the comparison that you should be weighing. If their is a miscalculation going on it is Team GingerHead's misreading the quality of 3G's competition.

Canelo would slaughter Brook, and it's debatable if GGG beat Jacobs at all.

Brook's chances against Canelo would be under 1%. GGG did beat Jacobs, it was very competitive (my score was 114-113 GGG).

[Impractical Poster]

I think Golovkin was genuinely troubled by Brook and Jacobs, but those 2 fighters bring different skills to the table than Canelo does.

It was very close against Jacobs, quite different story against Brook, and I can not understand the hype around Brook.........

Brook is technically very sharp. He's got quick reflexes, nice speed, and decent pop at 147. He is going to give Spence a lot of trouble.

[gilgamesh]

I think Golovkin was genuinely troubled by Brook and Jacobs, but those 2 fighters bring different skills to the table than Canelo does.

It was very close against Jacobs, quite different story against Brook, and I can not understand the hype around Brook.........

Brook is technically very sharp. He's got quick reflexes, nice speed, and decent pop at 147. He is going to give Spence a lot of trouble.

As long as he's able to make the weight comfortably, which I think is the biggest question mark about his fight with Spence. Sometimes going up to a higher weight and then coming back down has a big negative impact on the performance of a fighter. Hopefully Brook is able to make the weight comfortably and fight at his best so we can really see how good Spence is.

[man]

The public perception may be that Oscar took this fight because he saw GGG vulnerable in Brook and Jacobs fights but if Golovkin took the foot off the gas a little and did just enough to win those fights to lure Canelo.

no way. he would never risk losing
the fight like that, since that would
be the end of many things and that
late in his career it could well end
it at top level.

you're reading too much into these
things, which are not that complicated.

[IKSRTFO]

I think Golovkin was genuinely troubled by Brook and Jacobs, but those 2 fighters bring different skills to the table than Canelo does.

It was very close against Jacobs, quite different story against Brook, and I can not understand the hype around Brook.........

Because Brook landed one big shot on GGG. I guess Mosley gave Floyd trouble too. LOL

[gilgamesh]

I think Golovkin was genuinely troubled by Brook and Jacobs, but those 2 fighters bring different skills to the table than Canelo does.

It was very close against Jacobs, quite different story against Brook, and I can not understand the hype around Brook.........

Because Brook landed one big shot on GGG. I guess Mosley gave Floyd trouble too. LOL

He definitely came closer to knocking out Floyd than anybody else ever did, but that was pretty much the only significant moment of success he had in the fight. He had Floyd real badly hurt there.

Rounds 3 through 12 though it was all Floyd.

[boxing_rocks]

I think Golovkin was genuinely troubled by Brook and Jacobs, but those 2 fighters bring different skills to the table than Canelo does.

I don't think Golovkin was troubled by Brook, just didn't care about anything landing on him and didn't want to finish too fast. Something seemed to trouble him in the Jacobs fight. To me, it looked like some issue with his right arm.

[gilgamesh]

I think Golovkin was genuinely troubled by Brook and Jacobs, but those 2 fighters bring different skills to the table than Canelo does.

I don't think Golovkin was troubled by Brook, just didn't care about anything landing on him and didn't want to finish too fast. Something seemed to trouble him in the Jacobs fight. To me, it looked like some issue with his right arm.

He definitely cared about what Brook was landing on him by the time the 3rd round or so had come around because Brook had landed some genuinely rattling stuff on him by that point.

[boxing_rocks]

The public perception may be that Oscar took this fight because he saw GGG vulnerable in Brook and Jacobs fights but if Golovkin took the foot off the gas a little and did just enough to win those fights to lure Canelo.

Both Jacobs and Brook could possibly defeat GingerHead. Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr would have little to no shot at beating 3G. That is the comparison that you should be weighing. If their is a miscalculation going on it is Team GingerHead's misreading the quality of 3G's competition.

Canelo would slaughter Brook, and it's debatable if GGG beat Jacobs at all.

Not if Brook decided to move and box from a distance. Canelo can't handle that. I would still expect Canelo to get a decision outside of the UK.

[Ossyrules]

Brook fought pretty well vs GGG but ultimately got bust up by a bigger more powerful guy. Anyone saying brook has no chance vs canelo massively under estimating Kell brook.

I don't believe ggg carried brook or didn't try enough vs Jacobs either. Conspiracies like that sound good but are rarely truthful

Brook survived the early onslaught and then was able to compete for a few rounds. Ggg did a good job in the end

Jacobs fought great with a great plan vs ggg but it just weren't enough. Close fight he almost did it. Not for a second do I believe ggg did not give 100% to lure canelo though

[Ossyrules]

Both Jacobs and Brook could possibly defeat GingerHead. Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr would have little to no shot at beating 3G. That is the comparison that you should be weighing. If their is a miscalculation going on it is Team GingerHead's misreading the quality of 3G's competition.

Canelo would slaughter Brook, and it's debatable if GGG beat Jacobs at all.

Not if Brook decided to move and box from a distance. Canelo can't handle that. I would still expect Canelo to get a decision outside of the UK.

How's that England homer decisions movement going

[Tanzio]

The public perception may be that Oscar took this fight because he saw GGG vulnerable in Brook and Jacobs fights but if Golovkin took the foot off the gas a little and did just enough to win those fights to lure Canelo.

Both Jacobs and Brook could possibly defeat GingerHead. Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr would have little to no shot at beating 3G. That is the comparison that you should be weighing. If their is a miscalculation going on it is Team GingerHead's misreading the quality of 3G's competition.

Canelo would slaughter Brook, and it's debatable if GGG beat Jacobs at all.

You have absolutely zero evidence to base the GingerHead part of your post on. He has never slaughtered a boxer of Brook's caliber. He had controversial decisions of his own v Lara and Trout. In fact, I would say that the Lara decision was considerably more controversial than the 3G v Jacobs decision, although I had GingerHead edging it. 3G v Jacobs was close but clear for 3G, imo, similar to GingerHead v Trout, which was only that close because of open scoring, imo.

GingerHead fought the china chinned overblown LWW. Brook would destroy Khan about as impressively as GingerHead did. Brook has the skills and gifts to compete with the Mexican.

[Kalan]

I think Golovkin was genuinely troubled by Brook and Jacobs, but those 2 fighters bring different skills to the table than Canelo does.

It was very close against Jacobs, quite different story against Brook, and I can not understand the hype around Brook.........

Right... Brook is a great fighter and GGG wiped Brook out quickly and made him quit... Brook was complaining to his corner that his eye was hurting and he couldn't go on... They begged him to go out and keep trying and promised to throw the towel in if he was in trouble.

People forget that Welterweight champ Carmen Basilio beat Sugar Ray Robinson for the Middleweight Title... Welterweight champ Emile Griffith beat Dick Tiger for the Middleweight Title... And Welterweight Sugar Ray Leonard beat Marvin Hagler for the Middleweight Title after a 3-year-layoff.

And also none of those Middleweights faced any fighter as huge and skilled as Daniel Jacobs -- except Dick Tiger when he fought Bob Foster of course.

That didn't go extremely well for Tiger as I recall... Big Bob bombed him...a fairly predictable ending like Foster v Frazier and Frazier v Foreman

Do you think size and strength had anything to do with any of those 3 results? ... That's a progression of Middleweight to Heavyweight in 3 fights.

Actually Middleweight to Light Heavyweight to Cruiserweight to Heavyweight... It's not going to go well for the smaller guy if they can all hit.

[Lackeos]

People are really striving to preemptively discredit Alvarez in case he wins this fight.