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WBA President orders direct N'Dam rematch after scoring 117-110 in favor of Murata

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Gilberto Jesús Mendoza, president of the World Boxing Association, asked the Championships Committee to order a direct rematch between the Cameroonian Hassan N’Dam and the Japanese Ryota Murata, who fought for the WBA Middleweight belt on Saturday in Tokyo, Japan.

The judges who worked the fight were criticized by the press and fans, who considered the result a “controversial decision”, after the Cameroonian’s victory by split decision.

Two judges saw him win 116-112 and 115-113, but one gave Murata the victory by 117-110.

“After judging the bout, my scorecard is 117-110 for Murata. First of all, let me apologize to Ryota Murata, Teiken Promotions and all Japanese boxing fans. There are no words to repair the damage”, said the WBA President and added: “I will demand the Championships Committee to order a direct rematch”.

“I am disappointed with the controversy. My goal is to have clear decisions and prove transparency to all boxing fans”
, Mendoza said on his social networks.

The firm intention of the WBA is to benefit athletes, fans and boxing in general.
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Did anyone watch this? Was it a robbery?
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forestbox wrote:Did anyone watch this? Was it a robbery?
I had Murata winning 114-113 with almost half the rounds very close. Murata was lazy / cautious as hell and gave at minimum a handful of rounds away.

I have no problem with a rematch but it shouldn't be based on the WBA President's out of line card. In order to get to his score every single very close round had to have been scored for Murata.

N'Dam fought a smart veteran's strategy, stealing as many rounds as possible thanks to Murata's relative inactivity. Now Hassan stands to pickup another good payday, win, lose or draw.
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Tanzio wrote:
forestbox wrote:Did anyone watch this? Was it a robbery?
I had Murata winning 114-113 with almost half the rounds very close. Murata was lazy / cautious as hell and gave at minimum a handful of rounds away.

I have no problem with a rematch but it shouldn't be based on the WBA President's out of line card. In order to get to his score every single very close round had to have been scored for Murata.

N'Dam fought a smart veteran's strategy, stealing as many rounds as possible thanks to Murata's relative inactivity. Now Hassan stands to pickup another good payday, win, lose or draw.
Murata got robbed... end of. Not sure how in the world anyone can give N'Dam more than 3 rounds, but 4 is completely stretching it. The 3rd that N'Dam won on my card was close too and could've gone to Murata.
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We knock the ABC's, but this installs some faith back. If that result happened in say, New York, against a local fighter, there would have been a riot. N'dam should thank the Japanese for their restraint and inherant politeness.
If only something likr this comes of the Dirrel debarcle.
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Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
forestbox wrote:Did anyone watch this? Was it a robbery?
I had Murata winning 114-113 with almost half the rounds very close. Murata was lazy / cautious as hell and gave at minimum a handful of rounds away.

I have no problem with a rematch but it shouldn't be based on the WBA President's out of line card. In order to get to his score every single very close round had to have been scored for Murata.

N'Dam fought a smart veteran's strategy, stealing as many rounds as possible thanks to Murata's relative inactivity. Now Hassan stands to pickup another good payday, win, lose or draw.
Murata got robbed... end of. Not sure how in the world anyone can give N'Dam more than 3 rounds, but 4 is completely stretching it. The 3rd that N'Dam won on my card was close too and could've gone to Murata.
Go fvck yourself with your holier than thou "end of" horsesh!t. Murata gave away a full handful of rounds for lack of activity. He was losing the fourth until he scored the KD.

You have an opinion, fine. That's all it is is an opinion, no better or worse than anyone else's.

Murata had every opportunity to dominate that fight and he failed (miserably) to do so. I still think he should have gotten the decision but he personally made it way too close, and he paid for it.
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KiwiRider wrote:We knock the ABC's, but this installs some faith back. If that result happened in say, New York, against a local fighter, there would have been a riot. N'dam should thank the Japanese for their restraint and inherant politeness.
If only something likr this comes of the Dirrel debarcle.
There has been much worse decisions without riots here. Hell, Tyrone Everett won 12-15 rounds in his hometown of Philly against escalera and lost the decision without a riot. And nobody likes a riot like Philly.
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Murata is a lighter hitting, significantly less exciting version of Provodnikov. The same following of his opponent around the ring without throwing punches. I would still give him this decision, but in no way he deserved to be a champion.
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Also, where was that president when Sturm was gifted a win over Chudinov when he didn't win more than 2-3 rounds ? Arguably, Chudinov won all rounds.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote: There has been much worse decisions without riots here. Hell, Tyrone Everett won 12-15 rounds in his hometown of Philly against escalera and lost the decision without a riot. And nobody likes a riot like Philly.
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Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote: I had Murata winning 114-113 with almost half the rounds very close. Murata was lazy / cautious as hell and gave at minimum a handful of rounds away.

I have no problem with a rematch but it shouldn't be based on the WBA President's out of line card. In order to get to his score every single very close round had to have been scored for Murata.

N'Dam fought a smart veteran's strategy, stealing as many rounds as possible thanks to Murata's relative inactivity. Now Hassan stands to pickup another good payday, win, lose or draw.
Murata got robbed... end of. Not sure how in the world anyone can give N'Dam more than 3 rounds, but 4 is completely stretching it. The 3rd that N'Dam won on my card was close too and could've gone to Murata.
Go fvck yourself with your holier than thou "end of" horsesh!t. Murata gave away a full handful of rounds for lack of activity. He was losing the fourth until he scored the KD.

You have an opinion, fine. That's all it is is an opinion, no better or worse than anyone else's.

Murata had every opportunity to dominate that fight and he failed (miserably) to do so. I still think he should have gotten the decision but he personally made it way too close, and he paid for it.
It's not opinion, it's fact. If we start talking about opinions, then Canelo/Mayweather was a draw. You obviously don't know how to score a fight if you had it anywhere near close. N'Dam winning 4 rounds is clearly stretching it, though. He barely won 3 rounds.
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Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote: Murata got robbed... end of. Not sure how in the world anyone can give N'Dam more than 3 rounds, but 4 is completely stretching it. The 3rd that N'Dam won on my card was close too and could've gone to Murata.
Go fvck yourself with your holier than thou "end of" horsesh!t. Murata gave away a full handful of rounds for lack of activity. He was losing the fourth until he scored the KD.

You have an opinion, fine. That's all it is is an opinion, no better or worse than anyone else's.

Murata had every opportunity to dominate that fight and he failed (miserably) to do so. I still think he should have gotten the decision but he personally made it way too close, and he paid for it.
It's not opinion, it's fact. If we start talking about opinions, then Canelo/Mayweather was a draw. You obviously don't know how to score a fight if you had it anywhere near close. N'Dam winning 4 rounds is clearly stretching it, though. He barely won 3 rounds.
The only facts involved in this conversation are N'Dam got the W and you do not understand what a fact is. You didn't even bother to actually score the fight, did you?
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Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote: Go fvck yourself with your holier than thou "end of" horsesh!t. Murata gave away a full handful of rounds for lack of activity. He was losing the fourth until he scored the KD.

You have an opinion, fine. That's all it is is an opinion, no better or worse than anyone else's.

Murata had every opportunity to dominate that fight and he failed (miserably) to do so. I still think he should have gotten the decision but he personally made it way too close, and he paid for it.
It's not opinion, it's fact. If we start talking about opinions, then Canelo/Mayweather was a draw. You obviously don't know how to score a fight if you had it anywhere near close. N'Dam winning 4 rounds is clearly stretching it, though. He barely won 3 rounds.
The only facts involved in this conversation are N'Dam got the W and you do not understand what a fact is. You didn't even bother to actually score the fight, did you?
Why the hell would I be talking about your scorecard if I didn't score the fight myself? I gave N'Dam the first 3 rounds and then everything else went to Murata. The 3rd was close and could've gone to Murata too, though.
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Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote: It's not opinion, it's fact. If we start talking about opinions, then Canelo/Mayweather was a draw. You obviously don't know how to score a fight if you had it anywhere near close. N'Dam winning 4 rounds is clearly stretching it, though. He barely won 3 rounds.
The only facts involved in this conversation are N'Dam got the W and you do not understand what a fact is. You didn't even bother to actually score the fight, did you?
Why the hell would I be talking about your scorecard if I didn't score the fight myself? I gave N'Dam the first 3 rounds and then everything else went to Murata. The 3rd was close and could've gone to Murata too, though.
Admit it Mexi-BoxofRocks, you did not actually score the fight and you have no idea what constitutes a fact. You just watched the fight and your guy didn't win so you came on here to whine about it in your characteristic fashion.

Resume whining.
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Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote: The only facts involved in this conversation are N'Dam got the W and you do not understand what a fact is. You didn't even bother to actually score the fight, did you?
Why the hell would I be talking about your scorecard if I didn't score the fight myself? I gave N'Dam the first 3 rounds and then everything else went to Murata. The 3rd was close and could've gone to Murata too, though.
Admit it Mexi-BoxofRocks, you did not actually score the fight and you have no idea what constitutes a fact. You just watched the fight and your guy didn't win so you came on here to whine about it in your characteristic fashion.

Resume whining.
You're obviously deflecting. How can you even talk about anyone not knowing how to score a fight when the majority disagree with you? The 7th round could've also been scored 10-8 for Murata because he was beating N'Dam from post-to-post. I scored the fight, and Murata clearly dominated N'Dam... fact.
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Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote: Why the hell would I be talking about your scorecard if I didn't score the fight myself? I gave N'Dam the first 3 rounds and then everything else went to Murata. The 3rd was close and could've gone to Murata too, though.
Admit it Mexi-BoxofRocks, you did not actually score the fight and you have no idea what constitutes a fact. You just watched the fight and your guy didn't win so you came on here to whine about it in your characteristic fashion.

Resume whining.
You're obviously deflecting. How can you even talk about anyone not knowing how to score a fight when the majority disagree with you? The 7th round could've also been scored 10-8 for Murata because he was beating N'Dam from post-to-post. I scored the fight, and Murata clearly dominated N'Dam... fact.
You do not understand what the word deflecting means either, do you?

Again, the fact is that N'Dam won the fight the other day because two of the three official judges gave him the majority of the rounds. Their opinions are the only ones that matter in the decision. Your opinion carries no weight whatsoever in determining the outcome of fights that go to the judges, unless you happen to be an official judge.

Those are the facts.

Your opinion of the facts does not constitute a fact beyond the fact that you possess it.

If Murata picks up the pace / activity significantly in the rematch he will defeat N'Dam, in my opinion. See how that works? Kind of like your self proclamation that you are a boxing expert. According to the evidence provided, that is just your opinion.
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Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote: Admit it Mexi-BoxofRocks, you did not actually score the fight and you have no idea what constitutes a fact. You just watched the fight and your guy didn't win so you came on here to whine about it in your characteristic fashion.

Resume whining.
You're obviously deflecting. How can you even talk about anyone not knowing how to score a fight when the majority disagree with you? The 7th round could've also been scored 10-8 for Murata because he was beating N'Dam from post-to-post. I scored the fight, and Murata clearly dominated N'Dam... fact.
You do not understand what the word deflecting means either, do you?

Again, the fact is that N'Dam won the fight the other day because two of the three official judges gave him the majority of the rounds. Their opinions are the only ones that matter in the decision. Your opinion carries no weight whatsoever in determining the outcome of fights that go to the judges, unless you happen to be an official judge.

Those are the facts.

Your opinion of the facts does not constitute a fact beyond the fact that you possess it.

If Murata picks up the pace / activity significantly in the rematch he will defeat N'Dam, in my opinion. See how that works? Kind of like your self proclamation that you are a boxing expert. According to the evidence provided, that is just your opinion.
Uh, no. My opinion carries more weight than some fraud judges. I'm more of an expert considering I can actually score a fight, unlike yourself. No one in their right mind can give N'Dam more than 3 or 4 rounds. As I said, 4 is pushing it.

At the end of the day, everyone knows who clearly won that fight. Doesn't matter what the judges think. Media, all the experts, and even the president of the WBA knows who won that fight.
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Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote: You're obviously deflecting. How can you even talk about anyone not knowing how to score a fight when the majority disagree with you? The 7th round could've also been scored 10-8 for Murata because he was beating N'Dam from post-to-post. I scored the fight, and Murata clearly dominated N'Dam... fact.
You do not understand what the word deflecting means either, do you?

Again, the fact is that N'Dam won the fight the other day because two of the three official judges gave him the majority of the rounds. Their opinions are the only ones that matter in the decision. Your opinion carries no weight whatsoever in determining the outcome of fights that go to the judges, unless you happen to be an official judge.

Those are the facts.

Your opinion of the facts does not constitute a fact beyond the fact that you possess it.

If Murata picks up the pace / activity significantly in the rematch he will defeat N'Dam, in my opinion. See how that works? Kind of like your self proclamation that you are a boxing expert. According to the evidence provided, that is just your opinion.
Uh, no. My opinion carries more weight than some fraud judges. I'm more of an expert considering I can actually score a fight, unlike yourself. No one in their right mind can give N'Dam more than 3 or 4 rounds. As I said, 4 is pushing it.

At the end of the day, everyone knows who clearly won that fight. Doesn't matter what the judges think. Media, all the experts, and even the president of the WBA knows who won that fight.
Yes, they do know who won; N'Dam. Maybe Murata will get it right next time.

Your opinion is worthless. My cattle's sh!t is more valuable and certainly carries more weight. There's two facts for you.
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Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote: You do not understand what the word deflecting means either, do you?

Again, the fact is that N'Dam won the fight the other day because two of the three official judges gave him the majority of the rounds. Their opinions are the only ones that matter in the decision. Your opinion carries no weight whatsoever in determining the outcome of fights that go to the judges, unless you happen to be an official judge.

Those are the facts.

Your opinion of the facts does not constitute a fact beyond the fact that you possess it.

If Murata picks up the pace / activity significantly in the rematch he will defeat N'Dam, in my opinion. See how that works? Kind of like your self proclamation that you are a boxing expert. According to the evidence provided, that is just your opinion.
Uh, no. My opinion carries more weight than some fraud judges. I'm more of an expert considering I can actually score a fight, unlike yourself. No one in their right mind can give N'Dam more than 3 or 4 rounds. As I said, 4 is pushing it.

At the end of the day, everyone knows who clearly won that fight. Doesn't matter what the judges think. Media, all the experts, and even the president of the WBA knows who won that fight.
Yes, they do know who won; N'Dam. Maybe Murata will get it right next time.

Your opinion is worthless. My cattle's sh!t is more valuable and certainly carries more weight. There's two facts for you.
You're a clown.
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Mexi-Box wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote: Uh, no. My opinion carries more weight than some fraud judges. I'm more of an expert considering I can actually score a fight, unlike yourself. No one in their right mind can give N'Dam more than 3 or 4 rounds. As I said, 4 is pushing it.

At the end of the day, everyone knows who clearly won that fight. Doesn't matter what the judges think. Media, all the experts, and even the president of the WBA knows who won that fight.
Yes, they do know who won; N'Dam. Maybe Murata will get it right next time.

Your opinion is worthless. My cattle's sh!t is more valuable and certainly carries more weight. There's two facts for you.
You're a clown.
Do you dispute my claim that the manure my cattle creates is more valuable and carries more weight than your opinions on who won boxing matches?
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Not sure about your manure, but Mexi-box's opinions stink.
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