How good were the jabs from the Welterweights of the 1960s

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scorpio83
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How good were the jabs from the Welterweights of the 1960s

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Please tell me your opinion how good were the jabs from the following Welterweights of the 1960s? For example, Emile Griffith, Jose Napoles and Luis Rodriguez had great jabs, but what about the following welterweights from that decade?

Curtis Cokes
Benny "Kid" Paret
Luis Federico Thompson
Gaspar Ortega
Jose Stable

Based from the films if anyone watched their fights.
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Re: How good were the jabs from the Welterweights of the 1960s

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Jose Napoles had the superior jab of the day. Cokes and even Griffith were easily out-jabbed by Napoles, who gave up considerable height and reach but out-jabbed Cokes 5:1 in effective, face battering punches.. Most boxers don't see the jab as a weapon, but a measuring stick for power shots.. Some boxers like Quartey, Cokes, and Foreman see the jab as a weapon and put too much strength on it -- allowing the slickest boxers to read, counter, and out-jab them.

Napoles is one of the few masters of the jab who understood that you need to use less energy and effort with your jab than your opponent -- but use it more often.. more accurately.. and with better timing... That stance, soft knees, footwork, shoulder and hand placement, smoothness, precision, and timing are keys to the jab... That jabbing is a game of chess rather than than a battering ram contest... Foreman understood this on his comeback.

Tunney wrote about the jab and how an educated jab will beat anybody. You need to jab for 20 rounds without losing effectiveness, pop, or sting with it. He said Corbett bragged to him that he jabbed Jeffries to death for 23 rounds until both of Jeffries' eyes were battered into slits and his face was a horror. Corbett was miles ahead in a 25-round Title Fight... Then Corbett threw one slow jab in an attempt to draw a right hand counter from Jeffries -- so he could put Jeff away with a straight right like he did Sullivan... But Jeffries countered with a sharp left hook instead and knocked Corbett stiff.
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Re: How good were the jabs from the Welterweights of the 1960s

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At least you stick to my subject about the jabs except for George Foreman, who was a heavyweight.
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So were Tunney, Corbett, Jeffries, and Sullivan... For me the subject is as much about jabs -- and what makes a great jab -- as it is about Welterweights..

People understand from reading my post that Napoles had the standout jab among Welterweights of that era.
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Re: How good were the jabs from the Welterweights of the 1960s

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Both Emile Griffith and Luis Rodriguez had great jabs in their careers.
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I would say very good... But Napoles had an ATG jab -- and led the pack from those days.
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Jose Napoles had a great jab in his own right and I have nothing to deny his ability. :clap:
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freaking wonderful...
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