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greg wrote:oh well, HBO, NSAC and Co. birds of a feather stick together...HBO probably realised they can't milk him any more..

victor-romeo wrote:

greg wrote:oh well, HBO, NSAC and Co. birds of a feather stick together...HBO probably realised they can't milk him any more..

Probably had more to do with patriotism, They can write him back into the script later if they want to.

boxing_rocks wrote:

victor-romeo wrote:

greg wrote:oh well, HBO, NSAC and Co. birds of a feather stick together...HBO probably realised they can't milk him any more..

Probably had more to do with patriotism, They can write him back into the script later if they want to.

... unless he jumps the ship.

Roy is right about the left hook and I would add missing uppercuts. Funny that even without them, he was able to outbox the "p4p #1" in their first fight.

victor-romeo wrote:I first learned about the Kovalev on Jim Lampley's show on HBO the fight game, I followed Kovalev's career on HBO, HBO's commentary in the first fight was much more friendlier to Kovalev. In the second fight, Roy Jones who usually displays a neutral to pro Kovalev attitude was completely against Kovalev even before Kovalev gassed out with statements like Kovalev doesn't even have a left hook as if just discovered after watching the guy fight like 7 times. It was interesting to watch HBO turn against their media creation.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I was a Kovalev fan long before he was on HBO, and this premise makes no sense.

Impractical Poster wrote:How did HBO destroy Kovalev?

gilgamesh wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:How did HBO destroy Kovalev?

They gave him exposure which led to him getting big fights he ultimately didn't win. They f*cked him over big time with those big money opportunities he was able to get because of HBO taking an interest in him. Damn shame, if they'd just left him fighting on Fox Sports 1 or ESPN he'd really have DONE something in this sport.

Impractical Poster wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:How did HBO destroy Kovalev?

They gave him exposure which led to him getting big fights he ultimately didn't win. They f*cked him over big time with those big money opportunities he was able to get because of HBO taking an interest in him. Damn shame, if they'd just left him fighting on Fox Sports 1 or ESPN he'd really have DONE something in this sport.

Dang!! I can think of a ton of boxers who would love for HBO to "destroy" them as well.

Blodhemn wrote:HBO didn't build him. They were slow to warm up to him and quick to forget him. In nearly all the fights, Roy and Max were waiting for a failure, even in the complete shutout of Hopkins, somehow Bernard had Kovalev exactly where he wanted him in the 12th. And it was pretty convenient how quickly the bad decision of Ward 1 was forgotten.

gilgamesh wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:HBO didn't build him. They were slow to warm up to him and quick to forget him. In nearly all the fights, Roy and Max were waiting for a failure, even in the complete shutout of Hopkins, somehow Bernard had Kovalev exactly where he wanted him in the 12th. And it was pretty convenient how quickly the bad decision of Ward 1 was forgotten.

According to who? Roy? Roy sucks as a commentator, too biased. He also constantly wants to talk about himself, and his career at every possible chance as opposed to what's going on in the ring.

Blodhemn wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:HBO didn't build him. They were slow to warm up to him and quick to forget him. In nearly all the fights, Roy and Max were waiting for a failure, even in the complete shutout of Hopkins, somehow Bernard had Kovalev exactly where he wanted him in the 12th. And it was pretty convenient how quickly the bad decision of Ward 1 was forgotten.

According to who? Roy? Roy sucks as a commentator, too biased. He also constantly wants to talk about himself, and his career at every possible chance as opposed to what's going on in the ring.

Isn't that the point? Max did it also more notably in the first Pascal fight not to mention the Ward nuthuggery.

victor-romeo wrote:I first learned about the Kovalev on Jim Lampley's show on HBO the fight game, I followed Kovalev's career on HBO, HBO's commentary in the first fight was much more friendlier to Kovalev. In the second fight, Roy Jones who usually displays a neutral to pro Kovalev attitude was completely against Kovalev even before Kovalev gassed out with statements like Kovalev doesn't even have a left hook as if just discovered after watching the guy fight like 7 times. It was interesting to watch HBO turn against their media creation.

gilgamesh wrote: Max Kellerman had Kovalev winning the 1st fight so I don't see bias on his end. Roy is bias in almost every fight.

Blodhemn wrote:

gilgamesh wrote: Max Kellerman had Kovalev winning the 1st fight so I don't see bias on his end. Roy is bias in almost every fight.

It was a balancing act on his part, always does it.

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I was a Kovalev fan long before he was on HBO, and this premise makes no sense.

Same. I liked him the first time I saw him. This thread and whatever point the OP is trying to make is ridiculous.

gilgamesh wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:

gilgamesh wrote: Max Kellerman had Kovalev winning the 1st fight so I don't see bias on his end. Roy is bias in almost every fight.

It was a balancing act on his part, always does it.

Balancing act on who's part?