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Half of the year is done. Lots of important fights happened. Some fights between the #1 and #2 boxer in the their division happened so in some division it truly is easy to say who the real champion, the real #1 is.

Joshua
Usyk
? (Bertebiev or Gvozdyk)
Ramirez
GGG
Lara
? (Thurman or Spence)
Crawford
Easter
Lomachenko
Santa Cruz
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Inoue
?
?
?

Yeah. Pretty good list.
I think until Thurman and Spence fight, you have to give it to Thurman.

Joshua
Usyk
Ward
No stand out 1
GGG
Lara
Spence
Crawford
Garcia
Loma
Frampton
Rigo

This is who I think is the best but they won't necessarily be the rank 1 in the division. I.e. At 147 Thurman is number 1 having most belts and beaten consistently good fights. But I think spence is the best having turned over brook in England

Joshua
Usyk
Ward
DeGale
Golovkin
Lara
Thurman
Crawford
Mikey
Lomachenko
Santa Cruz
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Rungvisai
Ioka
Shiro
Meyothin

Ossyrules wrote:Joshua
Usyk
Ward
No stand out 1
GGG
Lara
Spence
Crawford
Garcia
Loma
Frampton
Rigo

This is who I think is the best but they won't necessarily be the rank 1 in the division. I.e. At 147 Thurman is number 1 having most belts and beaten consistently good fights. But I think spence is the best having turned over brook in England

Frampton???

He already lost close but clear to Santa Cruz, buddy.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:Joshua
Usyk
Ward
No stand out 1
GGG
Lara
Spence
Crawford
Garcia
Loma
Frampton
Rigo

This is who I think is the best but they won't necessarily be the rank 1 in the division. I.e. At 147 Thurman is number 1 having most belts and beaten consistently good fights. But I think spence is the best having turned over brook in England

Frampton???

He already lost close but clear to Santa Cruz, buddy.

It's 1-1. Maybe Santa Cruz would like to fight away from home this time in the decider, buddy

Joshua
Usyk
?
?
GGG or Canelo
?
Spence
Crawford
M. Garcia
Lomachenko
?
Rigondeaux
?????

AJ
Briedis
SOGgy
Ramirez (watchout for Benavidez)
3G
Jermall Charlo
Once Upon A Time
Hitman Jr
Linares
Lomassiah
LSC
Rigo
Yamanaka
Inoue
Nietes
?
?

AJ
Gassiev
?
?
Golovkin
?
Spence
Crawford
?
Lomachenko
...

Time to go to bed.

Joshua
Usyk or Briedis
Ward
? (A lot of guys who've yet to separate themselves ability-wise IMO)
GGG
Lara
Spence
Craw
Garcia
Loma
LSC
Rigo
Yamanaka
Inoue

Ossyrules wrote:Joshua
Usyk
Ward
No stand out 1
GGG
Lara
Spence
Crawford
Garcia
Loma
Frampton
Rigo

This is who I think is the best but they won't necessarily be the rank 1 in the division. I.e. At 147 Thurman is number 1 having most belts and beaten consistently good fights. But I think spence is the best having turned over brook in England

I think my list would look very similar to this! Maybe have Thurman as #1 in 147 till there is Thurman v Spence. I would favour Frampton over LSC in the third fight, wherever the fight is.

Tanzio wrote:AJ
Briedis
SOGgy
Ramirez (watchout for Benavidez)
3G
Jermall Charlo
Once Upon A Time
Hitman Jr
Linares
Lomassiah
LSC
Rigo
Yamanaka
Inoue
Nietes
?
?

Breidis as 1. U think usyk let go reascently?

Jip wrote:

Tanzio wrote:AJ
Briedis
SOGgy
Ramirez (watchout for Benavidez)
3G
Jermall Charlo
Once Upon A Time
Hitman Jr
Linares
Lomassiah
LSC
Rigo
Yamanaka
Inoue
Nietes
?
?

Breidis as 1. U think usyk let go reascently?

I just think that people are too full of Usyk. Briedis took Huck apart impressively.

Joshua
Usyk
Ward
Degale
GGG
Lara
Spence
Crawford
Garcia
Loma
LSC
Rigo
Yamanaka
Inoue
Higa
Tanaka
Menyothin

Ossyrules wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:Joshua
Usyk
Ward
No stand out 1
GGG
Lara
Spence
Crawford
Garcia
Loma
Frampton
Rigo

This is who I think is the best but they won't necessarily be the rank 1 in the division. I.e. At 147 Thurman is number 1 having most belts and beaten consistently good fights. But I think spence is the best having turned over brook in England

Frampton???

He already lost close but clear to Santa Cruz, buddy.

It's 1-1. Maybe Santa Cruz would like to fight away from home this time in the decider, buddy

The first one was a closer loss for Santa Cruz than Frampton's loss in the second one. It's 1-1, but I think Santa Cruz pushed aside all doubts. He's the better fighter, and a rematch would be a repeat of the second fight.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: Frampton???

He already lost close but clear to Santa Cruz, buddy.

It's 1-1. Maybe Santa Cruz would like to fight away from home this time in the decider, buddy

The first one was a closer loss for Santa Cruz than Frampton's loss in the second one. It's 1-1, but I think Santa Cruz pushed aside all doubts. He's the better fighter, and a rematch would be a repeat of the second fight.

I agree. Frampton fell in love with his perception of his power and got himself thoroughly out-boxed.

Jip wrote:Half of the year is done. Lots of important fights happened. Some fights between the #1 and #2 boxer in the their division happened so in some division it truly is easy to say who the real champion, the real #1 is.

Joshua
Usyk
? (Bertebiev or Gvozdyk)
Ramirez
GGG
Lara
? (Thurman or Spence)
Crawford
Easter
Lomachenko
Santa Cruz
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Inoue
?
?
?

Shouldn't an expert follow all divisions? At least enough to name the top guy?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Jip wrote:Half of the year is done. Lots of important fights happened. Some fights between the #1 and #2 boxer in the their division happened so in some division it truly is easy to say who the real champion, the real #1 is.

Joshua
Usyk
? (Bertebiev or Gvozdyk)
Ramirez
GGG
Lara
? (Thurman or Spence)
Crawford
Easter
Lomachenko
Santa Cruz
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Inoue
?
?
?

Shouldn't an expert follow all divisions? At least enough to name the top guy?

Yes

Mexi-Box wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: Frampton???

He already lost close but clear to Santa Cruz, buddy.

It's 1-1. Maybe Santa Cruz would like to fight away from home this time in the decider, buddy

The first one was a closer loss for Santa Cruz than Frampton's loss in the second one. It's 1-1, but I think Santa Cruz pushed aside all doubts. He's the better fighter, and a rematch would be a repeat of the second fight.

If he wins a decider then I'll agree. Frampton won the first clearly

Ossyrules wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
It's 1-1. Maybe Santa Cruz would like to fight away from home this time in the decider, buddy

The first one was a closer loss for Santa Cruz than Frampton's loss in the second one. It's 1-1, but I think Santa Cruz pushed aside all doubts. He's the better fighter, and a rematch would be a repeat of the second fight.

If he wins a decider then I'll agree. Frampton won the first clearly

You have your opinion, but a lot of people had that a very close fight even if they had Santa Cruz losing. The second wasn't as close and Santa Cruz won pretty clear. Still, I think you should always rate on who won the last match regardless.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: The first one was a closer loss for Santa Cruz than Frampton's loss in the second one. It's 1-1, but I think Santa Cruz pushed aside all doubts. He's the better fighter, and a rematch would be a repeat of the second fight.

If he wins a decider then I'll agree. Frampton won the first clearly

You have your opinion, but a lot of people had that a very close fight even if they had Santa Cruz losing. The second wasn't as close and Santa Cruz won pretty clear. Still, I think you should always rate on who won the last match regardless.

I don't disagree with you, but the decision was right. Clear but close. Santa Cruz won the second a bit more clearly than Frampton did the first. He adapted well and a third fight is needed to settle matters.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Jip wrote:Half of the year is done. Lots of important fights happened. Some fights between the #1 and #2 boxer in the their division happened so in some division it truly is easy to say who the real champion, the real #1 is.

Joshua
Usyk
? (Bertebiev or Gvozdyk)
Ramirez
GGG
Lara
? (Thurman or Spence)
Crawford
Easter
Lomachenko
Santa Cruz
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Inoue
?
?
?

Shouldn't an expert follow all divisions? At least enough to name the top guy?

Yeah. Moonsri looks very strong and those nippon boys...