Conor McGregor Winning-Would It Be The Greatest Upset In The History of Sports?

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For one brief second, let your mind wander to the absurd and consider what the ramifications would be if somehow IT happened. Just for a second and then most of you can go back to hating on the fight. Imagine that we're watching the fight with a room full of people, everyone fully expecting the beatdown that it will be....then somewhere in the 5th round, Conor lands a left hand of his life and Floyd's out cold in the middle of the ring ala Ricky Hatton, twitching. Can you imagine how crazy the world would go at that moment? Forget Buster Douglas..that won't even come close.

I can't think of another upset in sports that would ever compare with this one. Could you? I really think that it would be the greatest in the history of world sports, not just USA Sports. I know, I know...please save the "it will never happen dude"...i'm asking you to just consider what it would look like if this miracle happened and where it would be placed in the history of sports.

Would it be the greatest upset in history? What could possibly top this? Nothing is remotely close to it.
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The 80 Olympic Hockey USA win over Russia is pretty hard to top, but it would be much bigger than Douglas/Tyson.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The 80 Olympic Hockey USA win over Russia is pretty hard to top, but it would be much bigger than Douglas/Tyson.
True, but at least they were practitioners of the same sport. This one of boxings ATGs facing someone who has never boxed professionally. IMO, it would be the biggest upset in sports history. Movies would be made about it for years to come.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The 80 Olympic Hockey USA win over Russia is pretty hard to top, but it would be much bigger than Douglas/Tyson.
True, but at least they were practitioners of the same sport. This one of boxings ATGs facing someone who has never boxed professionally. IMO, it would be the biggest upset in sports history. Movies would be made about it for years to come.
I can't argue with that, as there is no possible scenario where it occurs.
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caldo2025 wrote:For one brief second, let your mind wander to the absurd and consider what the ramifications would be if somehow IT happened. Just for a second and then most of you can go back to hating on the fight. Imagine that we're watching the fight with a room full of people, everyone fully expecting the beatdown that it will be....then somewhere in the 5th round, Conor lands a left hand of his life and Floyd's out cold in the middle of the ring ala Ricky Hatton, twitching. Can you imagine how crazy the world would go at that moment? Forget Buster Douglas..that won't even come close.

I can't think of another upset in sports that would ever compare with this one. Could you? I really think that it would be the greatest in the history of world sports, not just USA Sports. I know, I know...please save the "it will never happen dude"...i'm asking you to just consider what it would look like if this miracle happened and where it would be placed in the history of sports.

Would it be the greatest upset in history? What could possibly top this? Nothing is remotely close to it.
If McGregor wins in what seems like a fluke punch, the fix will be in to arrange an even bigger re-match.

$$$. What are the odds for this circus?
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I am not buying it.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The 80 Olympic Hockey USA win over Russia is pretty hard to top, but it would be much bigger than Douglas/Tyson.
True, but at least they were practitioners of the same sport. This one of boxings ATGs facing someone who has never boxed professionally. IMO, it would be the biggest upset in sports history. Movies would be made about it for years to come.
I can't argue with that, as there is no possible scenario where it occurs.
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I'm not buying the fight -- or watching the beat down... It's a sick spectacle... Can you imagine hiring Paulie Malignaggi as a sparring partner for Floyd??? ... Think about this.. 3 or 4 years ago Shawn Porter jabbed the crap out of Malignaggi and flattened him early.. leaving Paulie staring up at the ring lights.. If McGregor needs to hire such soft sparring what chance does he have???? 1 chance in 73??? 1 chance in 538??? God knows what his chances are.

Floyd almost bought it versus Shane Mosley... If that straight right was a half-inch more perfect that would have been a 10-count... Lennox Lewis was hit close to perfect twice, by out-of-the-blue shots.. Paul Williams and Manny Pacquiao were hit much better -- hit smack on the button.. How many KO's like that have you seen since 2012? A friend of mine was walking through the woods and saw a lightning bolt split a tree.. A lot of people I know have seen bolts hit something or another, but I've never seen lightning hit anything but the ocean.. I don't think Floyd is worried about a long-shot punch connecting.

Remember...we're NOT talking ice jobs that were preceded by beat downs -- that eventually led to a wide open target..We're talking pure chance KOs

How many out-of-the-blue ice job KOs have you seen in your life??? In some 18,000 fights I've seen roughly 68.. That would put the odds at maybe 1 in 265.
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I read that an actual oddsmaker claims the "real" chance for Conor to win is about 1%.

I'd say closer to 2%. I suppose anything can happen. What if Floyd breaks his ankle in the fight? Conor gets lucky, lands a grazing blow and splits Floyd's eyelid in half?

Conor does have some boxing ability, he's younger, taller, likely stronger and more active in the fight game.

It's not outside the realm of possibility that Conor will win.. it is just highly unlikely.

So if we run with a 2% chance, surely there have been other instances where this type of underdog has won.. but on the grand stage? Hmm..
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caldo2025 wrote:Conor McGregor Winning-Would It Be The Greatest Upset In The History of Sports?

Would it be the greatest upset in history? What could possibly top this? Nothing is remotely close to it.
According to skyBET, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is 88.9% certain of defeating Conor McGregor (1/8), with the Irish underdog rated as having a 16.7% chance of victory (5/1).

The betting odds that I’ve quoted for the Mayweather-McGregor fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Buster Douglas was a 42/1 underdog against Mike Tyson, which meant that his implied probability of victory was only 2.3%.

Simply put: Douglas was a far bigger underdog than McGregor currently is! :lol:

Technically-speaking, Canelo was a bigger betting favourite against Chavez Jr. than Mayweather Jr. currently is for the McGregor fight. :TU:

Anyone quoting unnamed betting sources as claiming that McGregor only has a one or two percent chance of victory simply doesn’t understand how to convert fractional odds to implied probability percentages. :stop:
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Enlightened-One wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Conor McGregor Winning-Would It Be The Greatest Upset In The History of Sports?

Would it be the greatest upset in history? What could possibly top this? Nothing is remotely close to it.
According to skyBET, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is 88.9% certain of defeating Conor McGregor (1/8), with the Irish underdog rated as having a 16.7% chance of victory (5/1).

The betting odds that I’ve quoted for the Mayweather-McGregor fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Buster Douglas was a 42/1 underdog against Mike Tyson, which meant that his implied probability of victory was only 2.3%.

Simply put: Douglas was a far bigger underdog than McGregor currently is! :lol:

Technically-speaking, Canelo was a bigger betting favourite against Chavez Jr. than Mayweather Jr. currently is for the McGregor fight. :TU:

Anyone quoting unnamed betting sources as claiming that McGregor only has a one or two percent chance of victory simply doesn’t understand how to convert fractional odds to implied probability percentages. :stop:
The oddsmakers don't always have it on the button of course. I'd say McGregor should be something like 42-1 and while I never predicted Douglas would win, at the time I remember thinking the Douglas-Tyson odds should be something more like 8-1, maybe 10-1.
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Enlightened-One wrote:Buster Douglas was a 42/1 underdog against Mike Tyson, which meant that his implied probability of victory was only 2.3%.
You can take professional odds and wipe your ass with them -- because nobody is that smart they can nail the true odds except by accident.

In hind sight...Buster Douglas should have been the odds-on favorite when he stepped in the ring versus Tyson.. His massive preparation and iron confidence---and lack of same by Tyson---told the story.. I have to admit Douglas sounded extremely confident in interviews before the fight.. I thought "Wow! How delusional can you fkking get???" But then part of me started worrying because I was a big Tyson fan at the time.. Douglas sounded like he knew WTF he was talking about.. BD went on about how easy Tyson was to hit... how small, short, and light he was... and how much better his boxing skills and jab were than Tyson's. The interviewer smiled -- which is an insult -- because smiling at somebody's comments means you don't believe them.. Buster said "People can smile and people can laugh. I could give a crap. I'll wipe those grins off their faces on fight night." -- or words to that effect. I don't remember what people say word for word.


Most big underdogs claim they're confident of winning, and brag how they're going to "shock the world" but almost all of them look and sound like insincere motor mouths putting up a facade.. Some reporters were impressed with Max Schmeling's demeanor before the first Louis fight.. He seemed unusually composed and confident for such a big underdog.. Schmeling's heavily accented quote "I zee zomething" was written about. He referred to the fact Louis sometimes dropped his left hand when he jabbed to throw a left hook behind it -- that afforded a ripe opportunity for an expert counter-puncher like Schmeling. But Max didn't tell anyone what he saw before the fight. These are tidbits that are only picked up in hind sight.

I'm certain Mayweather has no holes in his game that McGregor has the skills to exploit. A KO punch would be a sheer accident. Conor will be throwing -- but he'll be doing a lot more catching than landing. I'm sure he'll land grazing punches on Mayweather's head that the fans will be exercised about, but the outcome is inevitable. This will be the 1st and last time a master boxer is matched with a sub-novice making his pro debut.

Floyd Patterson wasn't a master -- but he did fight a greenie.

Pete Rademacher had a much better chance against Floyd Patterson.. He was the Olympic Gold Medal winner at Heavyweight in 1956, and fancied his chances of beating Floyd Patterson in his professional debut. That was something nearly everyone in Boxing scoffed at.. Patterson said, "I was an Olympic Champion too, but I worked for years to get where I am as a professional. Amateur boxing is 3 rounds -- this fight is 15 rounds. When we get to the 9th round, and the 11th round, and the 14th round He'll be exhausted. His body won't take it in the late rounds. I admire his courage, but it wasn't a smart decision for him to do this." ... Rademacher did extremely well for 2 rounds and floored Patterson with a terrific right. Then Patterson destroyed him, flooring him 7 X and finishing him in 6. Patterson said, "I saw his whole repertoire in the first 2 rounds. He didn’t do anything different after that."
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Enlightened-One wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Conor McGregor Winning-Would It Be The Greatest Upset In The History of Sports?

Would it be the greatest upset in history? What could possibly top this? Nothing is remotely close to it.
According to skyBET, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is 88.9% certain of defeating Conor McGregor (1/8), with the Irish underdog rated as having a 16.7% chance of victory (5/1).

The betting odds that I’ve quoted for the Mayweather-McGregor fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Buster Douglas was a 42/1 underdog against Mike Tyson, which meant that his implied probability of victory was only 2.3%.

Simply put: Douglas was a far bigger underdog than McGregor currently is! :lol:

Technically-speaking, Canelo was a bigger betting favourite against Chavez Jr. than Mayweather Jr. currently is for the McGregor fight. :TU:

Anyone quoting unnamed betting sources as claiming that McGregor only has a one or two percent chance of victory simply doesn’t understand how to convert fractional odds to implied probability percentages. :stop:
The question wasn't would this be the largest upset in history as I could have looked up statistics to find that out and it wouldn't be much of a conversation. The question was would it be the GREATEST upset in history. So many more people will be watching this fight and tuned into the preflight 24x7 than they did for Tyson/Buster. A lot of people didn't even watch Tyson/Buster and found out the next day.

If Conor were to beat Floyd, Irish people would turn this world upside down that night wherever they were. There would be riots and craziness and I'd love ever second of it. I'd be Irish for a night.
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Two guys going to earn over a hundred million - one thing you can be sure of is that nobody is going to get hurt or so much as a scratch. This fight will be scripted to entertain you like a circus. Known Floyd-Haymon puppet/media attack dog being in the Conor camp tells you everything you need to know.
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caldo2025 wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Conor McGregor Winning-Would It Be The Greatest Upset In The History of Sports?

Would it be the greatest upset in history? What could possibly top this? Nothing is remotely close to it.
According to skyBET, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is 88.9% certain of defeating Conor McGregor (1/8), with the Irish underdog rated as having a 16.7% chance of victory (5/1).

The betting odds that I’ve quoted for the Mayweather-McGregor fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Buster Douglas was a 42/1 underdog against Mike Tyson, which meant that his implied probability of victory was only 2.3%.

Simply put: Douglas was a far bigger underdog than McGregor currently is! :lol:

Technically-speaking, Canelo was a bigger betting favourite against Chavez Jr. than Mayweather Jr. currently is for the McGregor fight. :TU:

Anyone quoting unnamed betting sources as claiming that McGregor only has a one or two percent chance of victory simply doesn’t understand how to convert fractional odds to implied probability percentages. :stop:
The question wasn't would this be the largest upset in history as I could have looked up statistics to find that out and it wouldn't be much of a conversation. The question was would it be the GREATEST upset in history. So many more people will be watching this fight and tuned into the preflight 24x7 than they did for Tyson/Buster. A lot of people didn't even watch Tyson/Buster and found out the next day.

If Conor were to beat Floyd, Irish people would turn this world upside down that night wherever they were. There would be riots and craziness and I'd love ever second of it. I'd be Irish for a night.
The betting odds is a very reliable yardstick to gauge the severity of an upset, since it represents the general perception of the masses rather than your personal opinion.

Whilst it's clearly your prerogative to disagree with the opinions of the mainstream masses for the stats I've quoted, it's an undeniable fact that they held those beliefs prior to those bouts taking place...
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montrealsuper wrote:Two guys going to earn over a hundred million - one thing you can be sure of is that nobody is going to get hurt or so much as a scratch. This fight will be scripted to entertain you like a circus. Known Floyd-Haymon puppet/media attack dog being in the Conor camp tells you everything you need to know.
Conor's gonna have lumps, scratches, bruises and possibly cuts when it's all over. Guaranteed.

Hell he might even have a concussion depending on how aggressive Floyd feels like getting.
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According to the betting odds, 6:1, this would be absolutely nowhere close to the greatest upset at all. In fact, it would not even be one of the top 100 greatest upsets in just boxing.
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Enlightened-One wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: According to skyBET, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is 88.9% certain of defeating Conor McGregor (1/8), with the Irish underdog rated as having a 16.7% chance of victory (5/1).

The betting odds that I’ve quoted for the Mayweather-McGregor fight are pretty consistent for 25 bookmakers (as per the stats supplied by oddschecker).

Buster Douglas was a 42/1 underdog against Mike Tyson, which meant that his implied probability of victory was only 2.3%.

Simply put: Douglas was a far bigger underdog than McGregor currently is! :lol:

Technically-speaking, Canelo was a bigger betting favourite against Chavez Jr. than Mayweather Jr. currently is for the McGregor fight. :TU:

Anyone quoting unnamed betting sources as claiming that McGregor only has a one or two percent chance of victory simply doesn’t understand how to convert fractional odds to implied probability percentages. :stop:
The question wasn't would this be the largest upset in history as I could have looked up statistics to find that out and it wouldn't be much of a conversation. The question was would it be the GREATEST upset in history. So many more people will be watching this fight and tuned into the preflight 24x7 than they did for Tyson/Buster. A lot of people didn't even watch Tyson/Buster and found out the next day.

If Conor were to beat Floyd, Irish people would turn this world upside down that night wherever they were. There would be riots and craziness and I'd love ever second of it. I'd be Irish for a night.
The betting odds is a very reliable yardstick to gauge the severity of an upset, since it represents the general perception of the masses rather than your personal opinion.

Whilst it's clearly your prerogative to disagree with the opinions of the mainstream masses for the stats I've quoted, it's an undeniable fact that they held those beliefs prior to those bouts taking place...

Stay on topic or come up with your own post to discuss biggest long shots. Perception of bookies and deadbeats maybe...a small percentage of PPV buyers will bet on this fight and figure into your "reliable yardstick". Conor is backed and revered by millions more people than Buster Douglas had before and even after the upset. The sheer numbers involved with this moment, the intersecting of two different sports and their greatest current icons...it's not even close. This would be the greatest upset in sports.
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caldo2025 wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
The question wasn't would this be the largest upset in history as I could have looked up statistics to find that out and it wouldn't be much of a conversation. The question was would it be the GREATEST upset in history. So many more people will be watching this fight and tuned into the preflight 24x7 than they did for Tyson/Buster. A lot of people didn't even watch Tyson/Buster and found out the next day.

If Conor were to beat Floyd, Irish people would turn this world upside down that night wherever they were. There would be riots and craziness and I'd love ever second of it. I'd be Irish for a night.
The betting odds is a very reliable yardstick to gauge the severity of an upset, since it represents the general perception of the masses rather than your personal opinion.

Whilst it's clearly your prerogative to disagree with the opinions of the mainstream masses for the stats I've quoted, it's an undeniable fact that they held those beliefs prior to those bouts taking place...

Stay on topic or come up with your own post to discuss biggest long shots. Perception of bookies and deadbeats maybe...a small percentage of PPV buyers will bet on this fight and figure into your "reliable yardstick". Conor is backed and revered by millions more people than Buster Douglas had before and even after the upset. The sheer numbers involved with this moment, the intersecting of two different sports and their greatest current icons...it's not even close. This would be the greatest upset in sports.
There probably more people think McGregor has more of a chance than Douglas had at that time imo.
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world ranked wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: The betting odds is a very reliable yardstick to gauge the severity of an upset, since it represents the general perception of the masses rather than your personal opinion.

Whilst it's clearly your prerogative to disagree with the opinions of the mainstream masses for the stats I've quoted, it's an undeniable fact that they held those beliefs prior to those bouts taking place...

Stay on topic or come up with your own post to discuss biggest long shots. Perception of bookies and deadbeats maybe...a small percentage of PPV buyers will bet on this fight and figure into your "reliable yardstick". Conor is backed and revered by millions more people than Buster Douglas had before and even after the upset. The sheer numbers involved with this moment, the intersecting of two different sports and their greatest current icons...it's not even close. This would be the greatest upset in sports.
There probably more people think McGregor has more of a chance than Douglas had at that time imo.
You're right because many millions more know this fight is actually happening than they did Buster and Tyson.
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caldo2025 wrote:
world ranked wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:

Stay on topic or come up with your own post to discuss biggest long shots. Perception of bookies and deadbeats maybe...a small percentage of PPV buyers will bet on this fight and figure into your "reliable yardstick". Conor is backed and revered by millions more people than Buster Douglas had before and even after the upset. The sheer numbers involved with this moment, the intersecting of two different sports and their greatest current icons...it's not even close. This would be the greatest upset in sports.
There probably more people think McGregor has more of a chance than Douglas had at that time imo.
You're right because many millions more know this fight is actually happening than they did Buster and Tyson.
Fair point but even if you compare percentage of people who know of each fight. The percentage of people of each fight more would give think McGregor are more likely.
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world ranked wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: The betting odds is a very reliable yardstick to gauge the severity of an upset, since it represents the general perception of the masses rather than your personal opinion.

Whilst it's clearly your prerogative to disagree with the opinions of the mainstream masses for the stats I've quoted, it's an undeniable fact that they held those beliefs prior to those bouts taking place...

Stay on topic or come up with your own post to discuss biggest long shots. Perception of bookies and deadbeats maybe...a small percentage of PPV buyers will bet on this fight and figure into your "reliable yardstick". Conor is backed and revered by millions more people than Buster Douglas had before and even after the upset. The sheer numbers involved with this moment, the intersecting of two different sports and their greatest current icons...it's not even close. This would be the greatest upset in sports.
There probably more people think McGregor has more of a chance than Douglas had at that time imo.
Agreed, two main reasons for that. Boxing was a much bigger sport in America then. Tens of millions more people watched the sport. The demographic for this particular event isn't fans of Boxing or MMA. Beyond casual fans that watch a few fights a year. They know these guys and it's going to be the water cooler topic of "the fight" for those people you run into once in a while that decide to talk to you about the Roy Jones/Whitaker fight back in the day. They're all amped up for this one!

"McGregor has that power man, one shot is all it takes. His big too, Floyd barely did anything against Pacman. This one is going to be epic!!!!!"
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The odds aren't that long 4-1 I think which is crazy ,it was the same as Arthur Abraham's beating eubanks jr ... personally I think this would be the biggest upset in boxing in the last 30 years
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caldo2025 wrote:
world ranked wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:

Stay on topic or come up with your own post to discuss biggest long shots. Perception of bookies and deadbeats maybe...a small percentage of PPV buyers will bet on this fight and figure into your "reliable yardstick". Conor is backed and revered by millions more people than Buster Douglas had before and even after the upset. The sheer numbers involved with this moment, the intersecting of two different sports and their greatest current icons...it's not even close. This would be the greatest upset in sports.
There probably more people think McGregor has more of a chance than Douglas had at that time imo.
You're right because many millions more know this fight is actually happening than they did Buster and Tyson.
This shows your age, EVERYONE knew when Mike Tyson was fighting.
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