Pacman is crooked

[crow]

I'm afraid the demons of money have caught up with Pac.
First the concealed bum right shoulder in the PBF fight, and now this.

He made absolutely no effort to prevent Horn coming in and tie him inside after punching. He of course refused to work inside.

And once he had Horn in trouble, he mis-timed a half-dozen of his left bombs, something almost impossible for him, and let Horn finish the fight.

Now i agree, the scoring, notably 117-111, was ridiculous. But Pac's inactivity, coupled with his non-existant jab left ALL rounds being close, and he must have known it.

Whether he's completely shot or not, it's time for him to get out of the sport.
He either doesn't or can't fight anymore. He wants 20 millions payday sparring sessions with him making fancy safety-first evading moves against not too tough opponents, with favorable judging at the end.

[gilgamesh]

I'm afraid the demons of money have caught up with Pac.
First the concealed bum right shoulder in the PBF fight, and now this.

He made absolutely no effort to prevent Horn coming in and tie him inside after punching. He of course refused to work inside.

And once he had Horn in trouble, he mis-timed a half-dozen of his left bombs, something almost impossible for him, and let Horn finish the fight.

He gave as good of an effort as he was capable of at this point. He's 38 years old.

The only round where it seemed he held back a little was the 1st because he wanted to kinda get a taste of what Horn had and he thought he was in for an easy night...he had a hard enough time in the 1st that he knew better than that in every round afterward and started putting more into it.

If he could've finished Horn he would've. He was trying.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He was a long time PED user, if you want to call that crooked. If you think he was in on 'fixed' scorecards than you're dumber than I thought you were. Based on the majority of your posts, it's the latter.

[crow]

Pacman has tax problems and it's obvious to anyone with an ounce of intelligence he's after the money.

Asians are mad gamblers at the core.
And boxing is and always has been an honest sport.

[Tanzio]

crowbar at his finest

[Nightmare Roy]

If you fly in and entourage of 300 on a private plane for your fights, you are going broke, silly sausage.

[Ilya Muromets]

Pacman has tax problems and it's obvious to anyone with an ounce of intelligence he's after the money.

Asians are mad gamblers at the core.
And boxing is and always has been an honest sport.

[Tanzio]

Pacman has tax problems and it's obvious to anyone with an ounce of intelligence he's after the money.

Asians are mad gamblers at the core.
And boxing is and always has been an honest sport.

Words can't do this kind of numbskullery justice.

[crow]

If he could've finished Horn he would've. He was trying.

The only time he really tried was the second half of the ninth, because Horn's tank seemed empty and he couldn't counter Pac anymore.

Other than that, he never tried to impose himself and get Horn's respect and prevent him from roughing him up inside. He was content to survive and evade Horn's attacks while being outworked, waiting for a chance counter that never really came.

Even after the ninth he didn't press his earlier advantage and got back to being bullied.
There's many ways to lose a fight and this was one of them.

[gilgamesh]

If he could've finished Horn he would've. He was trying.

The only time he really tried was the second half of the ninth, because Horn's tank seemed empty and he couldn't counter Pac anymore.

Other than that, he never tried to impose himself and get Horn's respect and prevent him from roughing him up inside. He was content to survive and evade Horn's attacks while being outworked, waiting for a chance counter that never really came.

Even after the ninth he didn't press his earlier advantage and got back to being bullied.
There's many ways to lose a fight and this was one of them.

After the 9th he didn't press his advantage because he's 38 years old and he'd worn himself out with his 9th round assault. If he could've knocked out Horn he would've. He DID try to impose himself, he's 3 inches shorter and 9 years older, it ain't exactly the easiest thing to do.

[Ilya Muromets]

Pacman has tax problems and it's obvious to anyone with an ounce of intelligence he's after the money.

Asians are mad gamblers at the core.
And boxing is and always has been an honest sport.

Words can't do this kind of numbskullery justice.

What are you going on about now, Tanzero?

I didnt even watch this fight. But boxing is an honest sport all right that's for sure yep no question about that.

[JeanClaude Van Damme]

The only evidence of PED's and illegal IVs land clearly in Mayweather's camp.

[gilgamesh]

The only evidence of PED's and illegal IVs land clearly in Mayweather's camp.

Nobody is even talking about Mayweather

[JeanClaude Van Damme]

The only evidence of PED's and illegal IVs land clearly in Mayweather's camp.

Nobody is even talking about Mayweather

The very first post mentions the Mayweather fight.

Have a nice day.

[crow]

The only evidence of PED's and illegal IVs land clearly in Mayweather's camp.

To be fair, Ariza wasn't in Many's camp all these years by chance.
Even though i hate to admit it, with Ariza as his "nutritionist", there's more probabilities he was on something than not.
Even Roach admitted to it.

[crow]

Words can't do this kind of numbskullery justice.

What are you going on about now, Tanzero?

I didnt even watch this fight. But boxing is an honest sport all right that's for sure yep no question about that.

You need to excuse Tanzidiot.
His trolling routine always requires to claim people laugh WITH him, while in reality they all laugh AT him.

[JeanClaude Van Damme]

The only evidence of PED's and illegal IVs land clearly in Mayweather's camp.

To be fair, Herrera wasn't in Many's camp all these years by chance.
Even though i hate to admit it, with Herrera as his "nutritionist", there's more probabilities he was on something than not.
Even Roach admitted to it.

You mean Alex Ariza?

[crow]

You mean Alex Ariza?

Yes, my bad.

[crow]

Here's a post about boxing corruption from another forum, which i entirely agree with.

"Corruption runs deep in boxing.

This is all about extending Pacquiao's career and extra paydays. Maybe not the biggest paydays, but tens of millions of dollars for fights like this is not to be sniffed at.

Lose the first fight, win the rematch, double your money then move on to the next.

Pacquiao is looking to go out on one last big payday, most likely against Crawford.

If Pacquiao fights Crawford now and loses (highly likely) then it's all over and he retires.

However, if, in the meantime Pacquiao can fight the likes of Horn two or even three times (don't rule it out) before he fights Crawford then it's millions of extra dollars in additional paydays and more time to develop Crawford's profile and build up the fight.

It's the same logic as the Bradley triology - one each, then the rubber match. If Pacquiao had won the first fight there would not have been a second or third. We're talking many millions of dollars in additional revenue.

It's how they used to do it in the old days. The champ would often lose the first fight and win the rematch. Double your money for the same fight. All fixed, of course.

There is a video on YouTube somewhere of Lamotta explaining this type of situation to the Corruption Commitee. "

[Best Coast]

Here's a post about boxing corruption from another forum, which i entirely agree with.

"Corruption runs deep in boxing.

This is all about extending Pacquiao's career and extra paydays. Maybe not the biggest paydays, but tens of millions of dollars for fights like this is not to be sniffed at.

Lose the first fight, win the rematch, double your money then move on to the next.

Pacquiao is looking to go out on one last big payday, most likely against Crawford.

If Pacquiao fights Crawford now and loses (highly likely) then it's all over and he retires.

However, if, in the meantime Pacquiao can fight the likes of Horn two or even three times (don't rule it out) before he fights Crawford then it's millions of extra dollars in additional paydays and more time to develop Crawford's profile and build up the fight.

It's the same logic as the Bradley triology - one each, then the rubber match. If Pacquiao had won the first fight there would not have been a second or third. We're talking many millions of dollars in additional revenue.

It's how they used to do it in the old days. The champ would often lose the first fight and win the rematch. Double your money for the same fight. All fixed, of course.

There is a video on YouTube somewhere of Lamotta explaining this type of situation to the Corruption Commitee. "

Back in the 1960s, when the US Senate was still a worthwhile, functional institution the Senate actually removed most of the most blatant corruption from pro boxing. Crooks like Frankie Carbo, Blinky Palermo and Jim Norris that ran boxing in the 1950s make today's boxing crooks like choir boys!!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8253 ... corruption

[crow]

Back in the 1960s, when the US Senate was still a worthwhile, functional institution the Senate actually removed most of the most blatant corruption from pro boxing. Crooks like Frankie Carbo, Blinky Palermo and Jim Norris that ran boxing in the 1950s make today's boxing crooks like choir boys!!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8253 ... corruption

Here's an extract from it:

" But a lot of writers were getting payoffs from promoters and managers to look the other away and ‘promote’ fighters. This practice was not new. It's as old as boxing itself.
The mob controlled it all, from the trainers and managers to the reporting journalists, with a combination of intimidation and financial backing ensuring everybody the mob wanted was under their control. "

Today, it's the TV media journalists and their entourage that get paid and controlled, so the corruption gets shoved under the carpet in a massive and tacit way. Almost like "Yes, too bad, it sure is due to incompetence, not foul play, and there's absolutely nothing one can do about it. You can trust us for that.".

The early warning signs were there with all those characters predicting a Horn upset, one of them Jeff Fenech, who was convicted of shoplifting 10 years ago for 2 watches worth 220 $.

The fornicating media team job we're served today, 24/7 is sickening.

[p4p1]

He was a long time PED user, if you want to call that crooked. If you think he was in on 'fixed' scorecards than you're dumber than I thought you were. Based on the majority of your posts, it's the latter.

Proof?

Other than the Mayweathers who's reason was that he is Asian and doesn't have the genetics to fight like that.

[Tanzio]

Words can't do this kind of numbskullery justice.

What are you going on about now, Tanzero?

I didnt even watch this fight. But boxing is an honest sport all right that's for sure yep no question about that.

You need to excuse Tanzidiot.
His trolling routine always requires to claim people laugh WITH him, while in reality they all laugh AT him.

When was the last thread or post you made that was not sh!tting on an individual boxer and / or boxing itself? You are a incessant whiner, crowbar. Hopefully you get that sh!t all out here and don't torture family, friends and fellow employees / business associates with your serial b!tch routine.

Caw on.

[crow]

When was the last thread or post you made that was not sh!tting on an individual boxer and / or boxing itself? You are a incessant whiner, crowbar.

There you go:
- http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 4#p4539864

- http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4465036

- http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 3#p4244013

Now, which last fight did you score correctly, if i may ask ?

[Tanzio]

When was the last thread or post you made that was not sh!tting on an individual boxer and / or boxing itself? You are a incessant whiner, crowbar.

There you go:
- http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 4#p4539864

- http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4465036

- http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 3#p4244013

Now, which last fight did you score correctly, if i may ask ?

I get my share correct. The difference is I often score realtime on the Boxrec RBRs. It is all there for the world to see.

You? Not so much. You just prefer to bitch about what does not go your way.

I do not think that Pac is crooked, although I do think that he concealed his injury prior to the FMJ fight to all but his and the FMJ teams.