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Chris Eubank Jr determined to halt Arthur Abraham

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The ESPN article has is: Chris Eubank Jr determined to become first man to halt Arthur Abraham

Chris Eubank Jr is not underestimating the danger Arthur Abraham poses to him securing a place in the inaugural World Boxing Super Series.

Eubank is talking up his opponent while also promising a knockout at the SSE Arena, Wembley to send out a declaration of intent to his Super Series rivals.

"He's a strong fighter and has no quit in him," Eubank told ESPN.

"He's definitely a tough opponent and I'm training for him very seriously.

"I believe my style and dimensions I bring will be too much for his one dimension which is to come forward and throw power shots. I will be too slick for that.

"I'm definitely looking for a stoppage. He hasn't been stopped before and I want to be the first man to do that.

"I've been ready for these type of opponents for a while and we've tried to make these fights but we've manage to make this fight and it's a great fight for fans. Styles make fights. His style of constantly coming forward and my style of fast, heavy combinations mean it's going to make for a war.

"The last thing you want is to do is to put on a winning performance and then have that taken away from you by three guys in suits.

"I learned from the Billy Joe Saunders fight never to leave it on the judges."

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He think's Abraham hasn't been stopped before..
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I’ll reiterate my thoughts that I previously articulated on a separate thread, which is coincidentally very relevant to Chris’ comments:.
Enlightened-One wrote:... One of the flaws that the Brit [possesses is] related to his reluctance or inability to throw straight right hands, which [is] due to a long-term hyperextended elbow injury that Eubank Jr. suffers on his right arm.

Eubank Jr. has had to adapt his style to cater for this impediment, subsequently resulting in him throwing too many uppercuts, which are incredibly difficult shots to land. This means that (against certain opponents) Chris can be very wasteful and inefficient with his offence.

That being said, Arthur Abraham uses a "peek-a-boo" style defence, which is conveniently vulnerable to uppercuts... and this perfectly suits Eubank Jr's fighting style to a tee.

Whilst Abraham is a big, strong, and heavy-handed 168lb-er, his work-rate is poor, whereas Eubank Jr. possesses one of the very best engines of any world-rated fighter currently competing in the sport of boxing.

I also feel that Eubank Jr. is teak tough, which means that he should be able to cope with any punishment that Abraham is able to dish out.

Even though I don’t consider Eubank Jr. as a stereotypical “big puncher”, I feel that he is capable of stopping Arthur Abraham, by simply dominating his veteran opponent on the judges' scorecards by overwhelming him with his sheer volume of punches, which will inevitably compel either the referee or the Armenian’s cornermen to call a halt to the bout during the final quarter of a relatively one-sided contest.
Ruthless-RKO wrote:He think's Abraham hasn't been stopped before..
Didn't Arthur Abraham retire between rounds due to damage to his swollen eye when he was stopped by Stieglitz?

For sure, this is technically a TKO, but a fighter being stopped due to an injury is not the same as being stopped due to being knocked-out or being pummelled to the point the ref or the cornermen feel compelled to stop the bout, hence Eubank Jr's comments.
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Enlightened-One wrote:I’ll reiterate my thoughts that I previously articulated on a separate thread, which is coincidentally very relevant to Chris’ comments:.
Enlightened-One wrote:... One of the flaws that the Brit [possesses is] related to his reluctance or inability to throw straight right hands, which [is] due to a long-term hyperextended elbow injury that Eubank Jr. suffers on his right arm.

Eubank Jr. has had to adapt his style to cater for this impediment, subsequently resulting in him throwing too many uppercuts, which are incredibly difficult shots to land. This means that (against certain opponents) Chris can be very wasteful and inefficient with his offence.

That being said, Arthur Abraham uses a "peek-a-boo" style defence, which is conveniently vulnerable to uppercuts... and this perfectly suits Eubank Jr's fighting style to a tee.

Whilst Abraham is a big, strong, and heavy-handed 168lb-er, his work-rate is poor, whereas Eubank Jr. possesses one of the very best engines of any world-rated fighter currently competing in the sport of boxing.

I also feel that Eubank Jr. is teak tough, which means that he should be able to cope with any punishment that Abraham is able to dish out.

Even though I don’t consider Eubank Jr. as a stereotypical “big puncher”, I feel that he is capable of stopping Arthur Abraham, by simply dominating his veteran opponent on the judges' scorecards by overwhelming him with his sheer volume of punches, which will inevitably compel either the referee or the Armenian’s cornermen to call a halt to the bout during the final quarter of a relatively one-sided contest.
Ruthless-RKO wrote:He think's Abraham hasn't been stopped before..
Didn't Arthur Abraham retire between rounds due to damage to his swollen eye when he was stopped by Stieglitz?

For sure, this is technically a TKO, but a fighter being stopped due to an injury is not the same as being stopped due to being knocked-out or being pummelled to the point the ref or the cornermen feel compelled to stop the bout, hence Eubank Jr's comments.
Still a TKO win, but I think you're right.. He wants to force the stoppage himself. On his terms.
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I am already cringing at how much of 'world beater', Junior will be spouting about himself after this.
I can't see Abraham being motivated at all for this, he's done anyway and by a long margin. Sadly a name on the hype job that is Eubank.
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Didn't Steiglitz halt him?
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Boxing Prospect wrote:Didn't Steiglitz halt him?
Yes
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A stoppage wouldn't be unthinkable, but he won't knock him out. The only way AA will be stopped is via successive rounds of getting completely out worked and slowly beaten up.

I favour a decision win tbh
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I can honestly see this fight going in either a unanimous or majority decision for Eubanks jr. But a piece of me still thinks there might be more then a little danger to fighting Abraham yet.

The reason I say that is who he beat in his last fight in April of 2017, Krasniqi, a former WBA world light heavyweight challenger, who he beat on a unanimous decision, so to me that proves he can take punishment and still win, even fought again, in the same year after losing his WBO world title to Ramirez (2016). He isn't afraid of a fight and Eubanks hasn't fought anyone really outstanding since Chudinov or Saunders.

Quinlan is a good boxer but i'd put him more around the commonwealth level right now, Doran and Blackwell (all due respect) were more at British title level over world level when he fought them and he is beating them like he should be.

I'll still give the fight to Eubanks Jr over the distance if he out boxes Abraham, but if he gets into a trading match with him or slows the pace in the later rounds he'll be in trouble.
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Its his time. I think he ll win. But i am for arthur. Still amongs my favourite boxer.
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I've always been an AA fan. I hope he pulls the upset here.
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punchoutsb wrote:I've always been an AA fan. I hope he pulls the upset here.
I've been a fan of his too, but i'm also a fan of Jr. So as excited as I am for this fight, I still think AA has something to offer. It probably will be his last chance. If he gives a Wlad like performance or even 75% of what Wlad did. It's going to be much better than his loss to Ramirez..

I think Jr. will take this though.
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Enlightened-One wrote:For sure, this is technically a TKO, but a fighter being stopped due to an injury is not the same as being stopped due to being knocked-out or being pummelled to the point the ref or the cornermen feel compelled to stop the bout, hence Eubank Jr's comments.
It's all the same unless the injuries were incidental like a blown knee or a separated rotator cuff assembly -- or the injuries are inflicted with fouls -- in which case you're SUPPOSED to go to the scorecards if one boxer can't continue.. But in the case of Kovalev-Ward II.. Lewis-Klitschko.. and Rigondeaux-Flores fighters basically won with foul blows.. Although Flores had his loss changed to a NC by the commissioners later on.. Rigondeaux is a Cuban and I wonder how that would have gone were he an American.

But if you pound a guy until his corner stops it that goes on your KO record.. Whether his corner stops it or the referee. If its from injuries you inflicted with legal punches it's a legitimate KO win.. Knocked out wasn't originally an expression that meant knocked unconscious.. It meant knocked out of the fight.
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Arthur Abraham apparently failed to make the 168lbs weight limit and now has to lose 1lb 15oz for the Eubank Jr. bout within the next hour or so!

If this results in him being weight-drained, then an early stoppage victory for the Brit now seems much work likely than it did previously.

Thoughts? :confused:
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Nearly 2 pounds. That's a lot to lose in one hour.
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My first post for about 5 years. Hello to all that remember me.

I've just thrown a few dollars on AA via KO at 9-1. My reasoning is as follows.

AA was a terror at middleweight because he had very heavy hands. But he only stands at 175, so he was too small for super-middle and he doesn't have good reach. This made him easy pickings for fighters like Ward, Dirrell, Froch who used a superior jab and reach and just stayed out of reach. AA uses this march forward peak-a-boo cover, which is also useless against the aforesaid skilful and mobile boxers. However this fight is different. Eubank is a skilful brawler. He is always attempting to close the distance and wing away with everything he's got. He's not a jabber. As such he's going to be in AA's counter punching range. AA has spent his whole career behing that guard. He's hard to hit, has an excellent chin and doesn't panic under fire. I can well see Eubank being too cocky and getting hit with some flush counters. AA also goes for it when he smells blood.

Eubank definitely deserves to be favourite. Younger, fitter, more talent. But styles make fights. I just think Eubank's style is ready made for AA. I can imagine Eubank steam rolling AA. I can imagine Eubank winning a wide UD. But a little part of me can imagine Eubank getting a real nasty surprise. And punchers have notoriously bad chins.

Anyhow. The couple of dollars on a long shot just gives me a reason to enjoy the fight some more.

cheers

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CEJ will win easily. Of course he could always get a laughably horrendous British stoppage. On the up and up he will win wide on points. But this is Britain we are talking about so an unanswered 4-5 punch combo should get the TKO.
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conan_the_cribber wrote:My first post for about 5 years. Hello to all that remember me.

I've just thrown a few dollars on AA via KO at 9-1. My reasoning is as follows.

AA was a terror at middleweight because he had very heavy hands. But he only stands at 175, so he was too small for super-middle and he doesn't have good reach. This made him easy pickings for fighters like Ward, Dirrell, Froch who used a superior jab and reach and just stayed out of reach. AA uses this march forward peak-a-boo cover, which is also useless against the aforesaid skilful and mobile boxers. However this fight is different. Eubank is a skilful brawler. He is always attempting to close the distance and wing away with everything he's got. He's not a jabber. As such he's going to be in AA's counter punching range. AA has spent his whole career behing that guard. He's hard to hit, has an excellent chin and doesn't panic under fire. I can well see Eubank being too cocky and getting hit with some flush counters. AA also goes for it when he smells blood.

Eubank definitely deserves to be favourite. Younger, fitter, more talent. But styles make fights. I just think Eubank's style is ready made for AA. I can imagine Eubank steam rolling AA. I can imagine Eubank winning a wide UD. But a little part of me can imagine Eubank getting a real nasty surprise. And punchers have notoriously bad chins.

Anyhow. The couple of dollars on a long shot just gives me a reason to enjoy the fight some more.

cheers

CtC
Great insights! I know 'Junior' wants to look good, but I'd be shocked if he gets cocky and doesn't keep it at distance. Abraham demands full respect for at least 4/5 rounds.
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great win for Syrowatka, KOed Davies in 12

after 11 rounds it was 106-102, 106-102, 106-103 for Davies
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Please any stream?
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stellar wrote:Please any stream?
http://stream-cr7.net/skyboxcr7.php

Davies-Syrowatka was very competetive and entertaining with a lot of clear punches, Syrowatka being down in 9 (it was somewhat controversial KD imo shouldnt be counted)
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conan_the_cribber wrote:My first post for about 5 years. Hello to all that remember me.

I've just thrown a few dollars on AA via KO at 9-1. My reasoning is as follows.

AA was a terror at middleweight because he had very heavy hands. But he only stands at 175, so he was too small for super-middle and he doesn't have good reach. This made him easy pickings for fighters like Ward, Dirrell, Froch who used a superior jab and reach and just stayed out of reach. AA uses this march forward peak-a-boo cover, which is also useless against the aforesaid said jkilful and mobile boxers. However this fight is different. Eubank is a skilful brawler. He is always attempting to close the distance and wing away with everything he's got. He's not a jabber. As such he's going to be in AA's counter punching range. AA has spent his whole career behing that guard. He's hard to hit, has an excellent chin and doesn't panic under fire. I can well see Eubank being too cocky and getting hit with some flush counters. AA also goes for it when he smells blood.

Eubank definitely deserves to be favourite. Younger, fitter, more talent. But styles make fights. I just think Eubank's style is ready made for AA. I can imagine Eubank steam rolling AA. I can imagine Eubank winning a wide UD. But a little part of me can imagine Eubank getting a real nasty surprise. And punchers have notoriously bad chins.

Anyhow. The couple of dollars on a long shot just gives me a reason to enjoy the fight some more.

cheers

CtC
Conan!

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By the way at 9/1 I'd say AA by KO is the smart bet whether or not it comes off. :TU:
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Great little fight Apache vs Ward
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