Biggest name in boxing in 5 years

samdance · Post by **samdance** » 05 Aug 2017, 14:34

What do you think?

My opinion is probably AJ as he is hw and has already crossed over to the non boxing fans in Britain, also with the current crop its probable that he remains the best in the division

Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 05 Aug 2017, 14:40

Spence or canelo. Probably Canelo.

Lackeos · Post by **Lackeos** » 05 Aug 2017, 15:23

Alvarez already is the biggest draw outside of Mayweather and maybe Pacquiao, plus his abilities and drawing power are continuing to grow. If he gets past Golovkin, he's going to be able to coast as boxing's #1 cash cow for the next decade. No need to even take any further risks, he will be able to make massive money even as he picks-up automatic wins.

Lomachenko is already older than Alvarez, has more experience, has less room to grow, is a much weaker attraction, and competes in a division with less visibility. Lomachenko has very little chance of catching-up to Alvarez.

Joshua, as good as he is, still will not be able to match the drawing power of Tyson and Holyfield if he can't continue beating elite opponents, which basically means he needs to beat Tyson Fury to surpass Alvarez. If Tyson Fury commits to retirement, then Joshua is mostly out of luck.

Crawford already has many outstanding accomplishments, and his drawing power has not kept up. He seems to be one of those fighters who is doomed to not have the drawing power to match his abilities, like Andre Ward, Bernard Hopkins, Shane Mosley, Winky Wright, and Timothy Bradley.

Arsenal49 · Post by **Arsenal49** » 05 Aug 2017, 15:28

It will be Anthony fowler he's young handsom solid personality absolute machine has the whole of Liverpool behind him and has a really good promoter who will match him well, you may laugh but this is my honest expert opinion

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 05 Aug 2017, 15:53

Arsenal49 wrote:It will be Anthony fowler he's young handsom solid personality absolute machine has the whole of Liverpool behind him and has a really good promoter who will match him well, you may laugh but this is my honest expert opinion

...expert opinion huh?...

Jip · Post by **Jip** » 05 Aug 2017, 16:03

Lomachenko, rare talent. Already top 10 atg p4p. Obviously terms of quality and not record. You will have a hard time finding me more than 5 boxer who had this kind of combination of footwork, reflexes, technique & coordination. Roy, leonard, floyd, rigo, robinson are 5.

Aj is the new king of the heavyweight division. Canelo is the ppv king. Loma the p4p king.

KiwiRider · Post by **KiwiRider** » 05 Aug 2017, 17:19

Jip wrote:
Aj is the new king of the heavyweight division. Canelo is the ppv king. Loma the p4p king.

That pretty much sums it up.
AJ is PPV depending on where you live. And has been for a while. Biggest crowds for sure. Pity there isn't more big fights for him like there is for Canelo

Ossyrules · Post by **Ossyrules** » 05 Aug 2017, 17:28

Jip wrote:Lomachenko, rare talent. Already top 10 atg p4p. Obviously terms of quality and not record. You will have a hard time finding me more than 5 boxer who had this kind of combination of footwork, reflexes, technique & coordination. Roy, leonard, floyd, rigo, robinson are 5.

Aj is the new king of the heavyweight division. Canelo is the ppv king. Loma the p4p king.

You're rating a guy with what 9 fights as top 10 all time pound for pound? And one of those fights is a loss. Facking unbelievable. Read a book jip

Ossyrules · Post by **Ossyrules** » 05 Aug 2017, 17:29

I voted Joshua, the only person that may stop him is canelo, but after golovkin is done with canelo I doubt it

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 05 Aug 2017, 17:30

KiwiRider wrote:
Jip wrote:
Aj is the new king of the heavyweight division. Canelo is the ppv king. Loma the p4p king.

That pretty much sums it up.
AJ is PPV depending on where you live. And has been for a while. Biggest crowds for sure. Pity there isn't more big fights for him like there is for Canelo

Canelo's biggest career fight is next. Not sure if he'll ever have a bigger one after that. Win or lose. I just don't know who would be a bigger matchup for him than GGG. This is THE career defining fight for both.

Jip · Post by **Jip** » 05 Aug 2017, 17:45

KiwiRider wrote:
Jip wrote:
Aj is the new king of the heavyweight division. Canelo is the ppv king. Loma the p4p king.

That pretty much sums it up.
AJ is PPV depending on where you live. And has been for a while. Biggest crowds for sure. Pity there isn't more big fights for him like there is for Canelo

Aj is ppv. He brings action, seems a nice guy outside the ring. Not that i focus on it but at least he aint a moron like wilder who behaves like a 15 year old teenager.

Aj just needs to be open to fight everywhere. Povetkin in moscow, wilder & ortiz in vegas.

Jip · Post by **Jip** » 05 Aug 2017, 17:54

gilgamesh wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:
Jip wrote:
Aj is the new king of the heavyweight division. Canelo is the ppv king. Loma the p4p king.

That pretty much sums it up.
AJ is PPV depending on where you live. And has been for a while. Biggest crowds for sure. Pity there isn't more big fights for him like there is for Canelo
Canelo's biggest career fight is next. Not sure if he'll ever have a bigger one after that. Win or lose. I just don't know who would be a bigger matchup for him than GGG. This is THE career defining fight for both.

Wasnt mayweather canelos biggest including ggg?

Imagine canelo had won against floyd. People would call him p4p king. Than arguably canelo and not floyd wouldve had a 300 million fight with pac. I mean a win over floyd wouldve been bombastic. Could argue a win over ggg too, lets put it this way. Canelo beating GGG is tougher to beat floyd. Why. Because GGG is a freaking monster with a crazy ko ratio who is naturaly biggee than canelo and has atg power and atg chin, i just feel to much for canelo. Floyd on the other hand is more athletic and technicly sound than GGG but is an easier fight for canelo because canelo can outbrawl him, he just didnt try for whatever reason. He losses to both, but GGG is more dangerous. But what makes more in terms of money & fame, surely a win over floyd. Mexicans would argue if canelo or chavez is the best mexican boxer ever had he won vs floyd.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 05 Aug 2017, 18:00

Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
KiwiRider wrote:

That pretty much sums it up.
AJ is PPV depending on where you live. And has been for a while. Biggest crowds for sure. Pity there isn't more big fights for him like there is for Canelo
Canelo's biggest career fight is next. Not sure if he'll ever have a bigger one after that. Win or lose. I just don't know who would be a bigger matchup for him than GGG. This is THE career defining fight for both.
Wasnt mayweather canelos biggest including ggg?

Imagine canelo had won against floyd. People would call him p4p king. Than arguably canelo and not floyd wouldve had a 300 million fight with pac. I mean a win over floyd wouldve been bombastic. Could argue a win over ggg too, lets put it this way. Canelo beating GGG is tougher to beat floyd. Why. Because GGG is a freaking monster with a crazy ko ratio who is naturaly biggee than canelo and has atg power and atg chin, i just feel to much for canelo. Floyd on the other hand is more athletic and technicly sound than GGG but is an easier fight for canelo because canelo can outbrawl him, he just didnt try for whatever reason. He losses to both, but GGG is more dangerous. But what makes more in terms of money & fame, surely a win over floyd. Mexicans would argue if canelo or chavez is the best mexican boxer ever had he won vs floyd.

Yeah the fight with Floyd was bigger, but this time he's in his prime so there's no excuses this time if he loses. Last time he was in a superfight like this every advantage was in the corner of his opponent. This time a great deal of the advantages are in his corner, so he has no excuse if he loses.

Jip · Post by **Jip** » 05 Aug 2017, 18:06

gilgamesh wrote:
Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Canelo's biggest career fight is next. Not sure if he'll ever have a bigger one after that. Win or lose. I just don't know who would be a bigger matchup for him than GGG. This is THE career defining fight for both.
Wasnt mayweather canelos biggest including ggg?

Imagine canelo had won against floyd. People would call him p4p king. Than arguably canelo and not floyd wouldve had a 300 million fight with pac. I mean a win over floyd wouldve been bombastic. Could argue a win over ggg too, lets put it this way. Canelo beating GGG is tougher to beat floyd. Why. Because GGG is a freaking monster with a crazy ko ratio who is naturaly biggee than canelo and has atg power and atg chin, i just feel to much for canelo. Floyd on the other hand is more athletic and technicly sound than GGG but is an easier fight for canelo because canelo can outbrawl him, he just didnt try for whatever reason. He losses to both, but GGG is more dangerous. But what makes more in terms of money & fame, surely a win over floyd. Mexicans would argue if canelo or chavez is the best mexican boxer ever had he won vs floyd.
Yeah the fight with Floyd was bigger, but this time he's in his prime so there's no excuses this time if he loses. Last time he was in a superfight like this every advantage was in the corner of his opponent. This time a great deal of the advantages are in his corner, so he has no excuse if he loses.

Good call. Prime canelo vs prime GGG. At a weight class where both will be strong, no draining, no crap, no nothing.

You know what i find strange. That people say g is out of his prime, just because he had a tough time with jacobs. What they forget is that jacobs beat cancer, trained hardcore to comeback and break free from anger to become a boxing superstar, all he had to do was beating g. Prime jacobs is a scary strong boxer. Anybody would have problems with that guy!

Kalan · Post by **Kalan** » 05 Aug 2017, 18:12

AJ is bigger than Loma... He has all the marketing and hype behind him and makes more money. He gets the exact fights he wants when he wants them.. Lomachenko is struggling to learn English, but seems to be getting it going a little bit, but heavy accent.. There's been at least 8 fights that he badly wanted and there seemed to be noway possible for him to get them.. It's the same way for all the Eastern Europeans and Cubans.. They get dumped on.

greg · Post by **greg** » 05 Aug 2017, 18:33

..whoever will be the first one to put in 10 000 hours of hard work if you know what I mean

Kalan · Post by **Kalan** » 05 Aug 2017, 20:26

As hard as he's working at different aspects of Boxing??? ... That may be AJ as well.

Lackeos · Post by **Lackeos** » 05 Aug 2017, 21:12

Arsenal49 wrote:It will be Anthony fowler he's young handsom solid personality absolute machine has the whole of Liverpool behind him and has a really good promoter who will match him well, you may laugh but this is my honest expert opinion

Oh yeah, dude. One day, he could become one of the top 100 active boxers in England if he's lucky. Nice prediction.