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Dominic Breazeale is ready to return to the United Kingdom and take on Dillian Whyte.

Promoter Eddie Hearn sent out a challenge to bring the American heavyweight over to take on Whyte on the Anthony Joshua vs Kubrat Pulev undercard in Cardiff, on October 28, live on Sky Sports Box Office.

@eddiehearn @dillianwhyte Let’s do this. The fans want it. I am in...October 28th. #CARDIFF #WALES #CALIFORNIALOVE #HERECOMESTROUBLE #TEAMBREAZEALE #SOMEBODYGOTTAPAY @premierboxing @skysports @matchroomboxing

"We have made his advisors a substantial offer and we hope to close the deal by the end of the weekend,"Hearn told Sky Sports.

This will be an excellent fight between two of my favourite Heavyweights, both of whom demonstrate more courage than Wilder does even in his dreams. These guys exemplify what it really means to be a fighter. I almost wish they were each fighting someone else because for one of them the one on their record will most likely become a two.

That will be an awesome fight, possibly making more money as the Whyte vs Wilder fight!

Good fight. Don’t rate breazeale but he’s facking big geezer and pretty durable, that’s enough to keep Whyte occupied and he’ll have his hands full.

I’d take Whyte on points based on there showings vs Joshua. Breazeale showed vs no boxing in his outing, but looked maybe a bit more durable. Which is saying something as Whyte takes a beating well

You aren't going confuse either of them with Willy Pep but they are both big powerful guys that would need to look up the word "quit" in a dictionary. It will be a war.

candyslim wrote:This will be an excellent fight between two of my favourite Heavyweights, both of whom demonstrate more courage than Wilder does even in his dreams. These guys exemplify what it really means to be a fighter. I almost wish they were each fighting someone else because for one of them the one on their record will most likely become a two.

Yeah maybe you're right to laugh. Maybe I underrate Wilder's dreams

Either of these would be the best name in his resume but I don't suppose we'll ever get the opportunity to see which column their name would appear in.

Breazeale by tko.

I'll say one thing for (or against?) Eddie Hearn. You can't accuse him of being over-protective of his fighters, can you? This is a genuine 50/50.

candyslim wrote:I'll say one thing for (or against?) Eddie Hearn. You can't accuse him of being over-protective of his fighters, can you? This is a genuine 50/50.

I grew up with warren, who would notoriously pas records and develop his fighters too slowly before taking a risk. Hearn matches much more aggressively.

I heard the fight is off. Just someone on youtube I've not heard anything official. I'm not saying I expected it but it makes sense:

The Joshua v Pulev fight is already sold out so unless Whyte v Breazeale is going to generate many more PPV sales (I wouldn't dismiss the possibility. I bought it for Whyte v Chisora not for Joshua v Molina) then revenue is already maxed out and anything paid to Whyte and Breazeale is just pure outlay.

Lucas Browne turned down the chance to be Whyte's opponent on this bill already saying the money on offer wasn't in keeping with the worth of the fight. I don't know what was offered but this sounds reasonable to me, for reasons outlined above. I doubt Eddie was prepared to greatly increase the offer to secure Breazeale for the same reasons, so Dominic has presumably come to same conclusion as Lucas Browne.

I wonder if Helenius will be any more accommodating because it looks like Dillian has a ticket to the ball but is currently without a dancing partner.

candyslim wrote:I heard the fight is off. Just someone on youtube I've not heard anything official. I'm not saying I expected it but it makes sense:

The Joshua v Pulev fight is already sold out so unless Whyte v Breazeale is going to generate many more PPV sales (I wouldn't dismiss the possibility. I bought it for Whyte v Chisora not for Joshua v Molina) then revenue is already maxed out and anything paid to Whyte and Breazeale is just pure outlay.

Lucas Browne turned down the chance to be Whyte's opponent on this bill already saying the money on offer wasn't in keeping with the worth of the fight. I don't know what was offered but this sounds reasonable to me, for reasons outlined above. I doubt Eddie was prepared to greatly increase the offer to secure Breazeale for the same reasons, so Dominic has presumably come to same conclusion as Lucas Browne.

I wonder if Helenius will be any more accommodating because it looks like Dillian has a ticket to the ball but is currently without a dancing partner.

I have no problem with guys trying to get as much money as possible, but I think people over egg there actually worth, as good fights go begging.

Whyte isn’t a headliner, he’s not PPV. He tried to headline and the show got cancelled

Also Browne and breazeale, can they afford to be turning down decent money and good ranking opponent?

FastestHandsInThewest wrote:Breazeale by tko.

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And here is another reason why I like Breazeale. No ducking. He will fight whoever stumps up the cash.
Good fight for both of them. The winner gets #1 contender on Wilders belt so he can duck them for 2 years or until he retires.

In a way I think we fans have to accept some blame. Years ago Heavyweights (I single them out as the worst offenders) used to fight each other regularly, win some lose some. Think of the British scene back in the fifties and sixties especially. These days losing a fight is like losing a wild west shoot out in terms of career prospects.

Prospects being the operative word when you think of those who have lost a step-up or a crossroads fight. The best recent examples that come to my mind are Izuagbe Ugonoh ang Adrian Granat who haven't fought since their one loss, then there are others than seem equally demoralized if maybe not so well known liike John Wesley nofire, Ed Latimore, Ed Fountain, Nick Asberry, Aaron Green ... and so forth.

candyslim wrote:In a way I think we fans have to accept some blame. Years ago Heavyweights (I single them out as the worst offenders) used to fight each other regularly, win some lose some. Think of the British scene back in the fifties and sixties especially. These days losing a fight is like losing a wild west shoot out in terms of career prospects.

Prospects being the operative word when you think of those who have lost a step-up or a crossroads fight. The best recent examples that come to my mind are Izuagbe Ugonoh ang Adrian Granat who haven't fought since their one loss, then there are others than seem equally demoralized if maybe not so well known liike John Wesley nofire, Ed Latimore, Ed Fountain, Nick Asberry, Aaron Green ... and so forth.

How is that one for the fans to accept some blame?

Breazeale either decision or TKO late in a war.

I just think Oz that we tend to write them off. Adrian Granat was getting prospect watchers quite excited until he got destroyed by Dimitrenko now it's like he never existed. There's more fuss made about Otto Wallin these days.

I'm not saying it's all down to the fans because the boxers are much more protective of their '0' than ever they used to be, but it does seem a bit of a chicken and egg situation if you ask me.

candyslim wrote:I just think Oz that we tend to write them off. Adrian Granat was getting prospect watchers quite excited until he got destroyed by Dimitrenko now it's like he never existed. There's more fuss made about Otto Wallin these days.

I'm not saying it's all down to the fans because the boxers are much more protective of their '0' than ever they used to be, but it does seem a bit of a chicken and egg situation if you ask me.

I've always been annoyed at the protection of the "0". It bores the crap out of me watching someone still fighting bums with 20+ fights under their belt. I think that's one reason why MMA is taking a chunk out of boxing. They don't care about the " 0", they match top guys against top guys to get good fights. Ali Wlad Manny all been beat but still legends. Losing makes or breaks a fighter. Personally I don't care about the "0" I just want hard competitive fights

Well said Kiwi although I can't really get into MMA. Strange really because back in the day I often used to theorize and speculate about who would win between exponents of different martial arts, and I was fascinated to learn about different and more obscure styles of (always unarmed) combat from countries not normally considered when you think of martial arts (Brasil, Indonesia, France etc). You could say that MMA was created for people like me. I've seen some cracking MMA fights and then some real bore-fests where they hold each other by the shoulders and take turns to kick each other in the shins

I'm reminded of a spoof about the (presumably fictitious) Welsh martial art of 'Llap Goch' founded on the principle of striking first. An accomplished exponent of Llap Goch will be able to disable his opponent before his opponent has been able to land a blow, or in fact before the idea of doing so has even occurred to him. A master of Llap Goch will be able to render his opponent unconscious before the opponent is even aware of the Llap Goch master's very existence

Yeah back on point - I liked what Dillian Whyte had to say about the great fighters of the past all having losses on their records because they were not afraid to fight each other, and losing a fight was not the end of the world. If only we could get this philosophy to catch on.

candyslim wrote:Prospects being the operative word when you think of those who have lost a step-up or a crossroads fight. The best recent examples that come to my mind are Izuagbe Ugonoh ang Adrian Granat who haven't fought since their one loss, then there are others than seem equally demoralized if maybe not so well known liike John Wesley nofire, Ed Latimore, Ed Fountain, Nick Asberry, Aaron Green ... and so forth.

For the sake of your health if you've been KOed you should take a decent bit of time out from even training.

Sure thing but not a year or even 6 months I would suggest.

We see it often enough don't we: You wonder what happened to so and so and you look him up on BoxRec and find out he's 16 and 1 for example and hasn't fought since losing his last fight two years ago.