Adam Booth and Groves
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salaambrown
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Adam Booth and Groves
How good would GG have been if he stayed under the tutelage of Booth.
IMO watching him under Paddy/Shane and the fights he has had clearly
he has lost his erratic footwork and upper body movement
Speed
Mental toughness
(Booth has developed Josh Kelly and Burnett to have these attributes)
IMO watching him under Paddy/Shane and the fights he has had clearly
he has lost his erratic footwork and upper body movement
Speed
Mental toughness
(Booth has developed Josh Kelly and Burnett to have these attributes)
Re: Adam Booth and Groves
Hi Adamsalaambrown wrote:How good would GG have been if he stayed under the tutelage of Booth.
IMO watching him under Paddy/Shane and the fights he has had clearly
he has lost his erratic footwork and upper body movement
Speed
Mental toughness
(Booth has developed Josh Kelly and Burnett to have these attributes)
Re: Adam Booth and Groves
personally I love Adam Booth, think he's one the best trainers out there at the moment, as evidenced by the Burnett fought vs Haskins, and Josh Kellys last fight was incredible, ridiculous repeated left for the KO, very impressive.
However I like McGuigan as well, think he's a quality guy and has done a massive amount of good for the sport of boxing over the years.
I think Adam Booth has a fairly specific fighting and training style, that wouldn't appeal to everyone, and Groves looks very comfortable with Shane, which is good to see. I reckon he's better with Shane, they seem like a good match up
However I like McGuigan as well, think he's a quality guy and has done a massive amount of good for the sport of boxing over the years.
I think Adam Booth has a fairly specific fighting and training style, that wouldn't appeal to everyone, and Groves looks very comfortable with Shane, which is good to see. I reckon he's better with Shane, they seem like a good match up
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I think Groves has a lot a little of his crispness under McGuigan. Booth, despite his floors, does seem to be able to develop good punchers.
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horndawg80
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Re: Adam Booth and Groves
"hi Adam" Brilliant!!! hahahahha
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salaambrown
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Re: Adam Booth and Groves
I prefer the term Smooth Booth!BigDoofus wrote:Hi Adamsalaambrown wrote:How good would GG have been if he stayed under the tutelage of Booth.
IMO watching him under Paddy/Shane and the fights he has had clearly
he has lost his erratic footwork and upper body movement
Speed
Mental toughness
(Booth has developed Josh Kelly and Burnett to have these attributes)
Re: Adam Booth and Groves
I don't think he would have lost to Froch in either fight under Booth.
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Big Adam Booth fan. Fan of Shane's too.
Re: Adam Booth and Groves
I think he would have seen Home the win in Froch 1. He had him beat. Credit Froch for keep coming but groves lost it tactically. Booth much better cornerman than Fitzpatrick. Very clear, calm on point instructions. Would have kept Groves on the rails to the win.
What’s happened has happened. Groves has done well to get his career going again
What’s happened has happened. Groves has done well to get his career going again
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Adam Booth and Groves
Bollocks, he was knackered and beaten psychologically, lolling around all floppyOssyrules wrote:I think he would have seen Home the win in Froch 1.
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TheLeprechaun
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Re: Adam Booth and Groves
Because he spent his energy blasting froch with his hardest shots for 9 rounds. If he came with negative counter punching tactics like he did vs DeGale its a totally different fight. Similar to the froch dirrell fight.Counter-puncher wrote:Bollocks, he was knackered and beaten psychologically, lolling around all floppyOssyrules wrote:I think he would have seen Home the win in Froch 1.
Booth has been responsible for some absolute stinkers. Haye vs Ismail abdoul. Burnetts stinking style. DeGale groves was horrid to watch. Lee Saunders was dreadful. Booth wants his fighters running, counter punching, feinting every 2 seconds, pacing themselves and low punch volume.
I'm glad groves went his own way. He's been less successful that he would have been for me but has been involved in some exciting fights and that was less likely to happen under booth.
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mickey1975
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Re: Adam Booth and Groves
The Froch fights made George a household name and a millionaire. The Jack fight, with hindsight, isn't a bad result. The DeGale result is very good. Winning and defending a world title is a bonus. All in all, he's had an excellent career.TheLeprechaun wrote:Because he spent his energy blasting froch with his hardest shots for 9 rounds. If he came with negative counter punching tactics like he did vs DeGale its a totally different fight. Similar to the froch dirrell fight.Counter-puncher wrote:Bollocks, he was knackered and beaten psychologically, lolling around all floppyOssyrules wrote:I think he would have seen Home the win in Froch 1.
Booth has been responsible for some absolute stinkers. Haye vs Ismail abdoul. Burnetts stinking style. DeGale groves was horrid to watch. Lee Saunders was dreadful. Booth wants his fighters running, counter punching, feinting every 2 seconds, pacing themselves and low punch volume.
I'm glad groves went his own way. He's been less successful that he would have been for me but has been involved in some exciting fights and that was less likely to happen under booth.
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TheLeprechaun
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Re: Adam Booth and Groves
mickey1975 wrote:The Froch fights made George a household name and a millionaire. The Jack fight, with hindsight, isn't a bad result. The DeGale result is very good. Winning and defending a world title is a bonus. All in all, he's had an excellent career.TheLeprechaun wrote:Because he spent his energy blasting froch with his hardest shots for 9 rounds. If he came with negative counter punching tactics like he did vs DeGale its a totally different fight. Similar to the froch dirrell fight.Counter-puncher wrote:
Bollocks, he was knackered and beaten psychologically, lolling around all floppy
Booth has been responsible for some absolute stinkers. Haye vs Ismail abdoul. Burnetts stinking style. DeGale groves was horrid to watch. Lee Saunders was dreadful. Booth wants his fighters running, counter punching, feinting every 2 seconds, pacing themselves and low punch volume.
I'm glad groves went his own way. He's been less successful that he would have been for me but has been involved in some exciting fights and that was less likely to happen under booth.
Agreed. I'll remember groves fondly for having an exciting style. The froch groves 1 fight is a great fight to re-watch. Shame halling is terrible on commentary though. I bet you in a few years we will see some fighters coming through and they'll say the groves froch fights got them into boxing. That wouldn't have happened with booth employing stink-out-the-joint tactics
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Quote the whole post so there’s contextCounter-puncher wrote:Bollocks, he was knackered and beaten psychologically, lolling around all floppyOssyrules wrote:I think he would have seen Home the win in Froch 1.
Re: Adam Booth and Groves
mickey1975 wrote:The Froch fights made George a household name and a millionaire. The Jack fight, with hindsight, isn't a bad result. The DeGale result is very good. Winning and defending a world title is a bonus. All in all, he's had an excellent career.TheLeprechaun wrote:Because he spent his energy blasting froch with his hardest shots for 9 rounds. If he came with negative counter punching tactics like he did vs DeGale its a totally different fight. Similar to the froch dirrell fight.Counter-puncher wrote:
Bollocks, he was knackered and beaten psychologically, lolling around all floppy
Booth has been responsible for some absolute stinkers. Haye vs Ismail abdoul. Burnetts stinking style. DeGale groves was horrid to watch. Lee Saunders was dreadful. Booth wants his fighters running, counter punching, feinting every 2 seconds, pacing themselves and low punch volume.
I'm glad groves went his own way. He's been less successful that he would have been for me but has been involved in some exciting fights and that was less likely to happen under booth.
Not to mention he's better now than he was in the Froch fights.
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boxingknockout
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Re: Adam Booth and Groves
Booth is no genius. Come on - he trained Groves and Haye. Two very talented fighters. I doubt any trainer has taught Haye anything useful since he was 20.
Booth got lucky. The fighter makes the trainer.
Booth got lucky. The fighter makes the trainer.