Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

Who is a tougher fight?

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Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Joe Calzaghe is looking forward to watching Anthony Joshua perform Saturday night in what’s considered Calzaghe’s home stadium.

The Welsh legend will reflect fondly on his own huge fight at Principality Stadium when he attends Joshua’s heavyweight title fight against Carlos Takam on Saturday night in Cardiff, Wales. That’s the venue, then known as Millennium Stadium, where the retired Calzaghe won his super middleweight title unification fight against Denmark’s Mikkel Kessler in November 2007.

Calzaghe also has been thinking about another fight – Joshua against Tyson Fury – and how huge it would be for British boxing.

“I would love to see Tyson Fury get back into shape because I think it would be the biggest British fight of all time,” Calzaghe told Sky Sports for a story posted to its website Wednesday. “A great fight for Britain. It would be a world title fight. Because remember, Tyson Fury beat Klitschko a lot more comfortably than Anthony Joshua. A great mix of styles. I would love to see that fight.”

Fury’s inactivity has shifted focus toward an eventual showdown between Joshua and WBC champion Deontay Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs), but Calzaghe thinks the skillful Fury would give Joshua a tougher time than the hard-hitting Wilder.

“Deontay Wilder, I think Tyson Fury would be a tougher fight for Joshua, just because of the way he boxes,” Calzaghe said. “I fancy AJ to knock out Wilder, but it will be pretty entertaining while it lasts.

“Fingers crossed, he hopefully will take care of business at the weekend, and [we’ll] see Tyson Fury get back in shape. That would be a good fight.”
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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I make him right :TU:
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Fury has no chance at all. The fury that fought elad wouldn't see past 3 rounds.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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A fully fit, in shape and motivated Fury would beat AJ easily.

Clearly AJ would always have a punchers chance but that'd be about it. He's smaller, got a shorter reach, got much slower foot speed, slower hand speed once it goes past 3 or 4 rounds, much worse stamina, worse jab and worse defence. Fury is miles more skilled. The only advantage Joshua has is power and we saw after a few rounds with Klitschko that that tailed off until the 11th.

Problem is, Fury is highly unlikely to be able to get himself in the sort of physical and mental shape that he was in for the Klitschko fight ever again and so if they did fight AJ would probably knock him out.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Fury has no chance at all. The fury that fought elad wouldn't see past 3 rounds.
That's just stupid ,wlad was dancing around AJ Fury is a lot more elusive .
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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paddy chavez wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Fury has no chance at all. The fury that fought elad wouldn't see past 3 rounds.
That's just stupid ,wlad was dancing around AJ Fury is a lot more elusive .
:lol:
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Fury would have a chance against Wilder. He'd win rounds before he got iced.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

Post by Enlightened-One »

Tyson Fury would pose AJ with massive problems, due to his fantastic engine, superior work-rate, unorthodox fighting style and general mobility.

Fury looked deeply impressive in his rematch against Dereck Chisora and he raised his game even further when he comfortably defeated Wladimir Klitschko.

I don’t know if Fury is able to recapture the form he showed in 2015… and I personally have my doubts, but if that version of Tyson fought Joshua on Saturday night, I reckon he’d wear AJ down en route to scoring a late stoppage.

Anthony would have a puncher’s chance, for sure, but he would struggle to land a clean shot against a constantly retreating counter-punching awkward Tyson Fury.

The thing about Anthony Joshua is that he is consistently showing signs of improvement during every single fight he competes in. And the longer Tyson Fury remains on the side-lines, the less chance he’ll have at dethroning his fellow Brit.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Fury wouldn't survive the first 6 rounds. AJ ain't just gonna stare at him. He's gonna be bombing him with heavy power shots.

I'd pick Wilder to knock out Fury too at this point. Fury ain't a boxer anymore. People need to get that through their head. Even if he's a Boxer again in the future he ain't a Championship level one.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

Post by Bard of Boxrec »

Lol, there have been about half a dozen carbon copies of how this thread pans out.

Band A: Pernell Fury would dance around Joshua and make him look silly.
Band B: Joshua would have little trouble in knocking him out.

All I can say is that I'm sad this won't happen, or at least won't happen with Fury at his best, because I would have made an absolute killing on Joshua walking through that big goon.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Fury vs Joshua would be possibly the biggest fight of all time. Live gate over 100k easily. Fury's Ali style personality would generate buzz and interest all over the world. Fury has to get his a55 in shape and his head screwed back on right.

Wilder is a clown, nothing but a clown pretender. Fury vs Joshua is the Big One. Joe Calzaghe KNOWS.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Damned fraud wilder won't even fight Joshua's leftovers. He's scared of AJ's leftovers.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Riddick Blowe wrote:Lol, there have been about half a dozen carbon copies of how this thread pans out.

Band A: Pernell Fury would dance around Joshua and make him look silly.
Band B: Joshua would have little trouble in knocking him out.

All I can say is that I'm sad this won't happen, or at least won't happen with Fury at his best, because I would have made an absolute killing on Joshua walking through that big goon.
Pernell Fury :lol:

Yes I find it pretty hilarious that there are people out there who would apparently call Fury one of the all time great Heavyweight defenders apparently.

Getting knocked down hard by a Cruiserweight, and winning a staring contest is all it takes I guess :lol:
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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..I kinda refuse to speculate until/unless I see Fury in shape..
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

Post by ElJefe »

I agree with Calzaghe, but unfortunately I don't think we'll see Fury again. At least not in the physical and mental condition he was in for the Wlad fight.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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ElJefe wrote:I agree with Calzaghe, but unfortunately I don't think we'll see Fury again. At least not in the physical and mental condition he was in for the Wlad fight.
Even if you saw THAT Fury again he'd get beaten by Wilder or Joshua. Wanna know why? They'd actually throw punches at him.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

Post by jamamb »

wilder has a punchers chance against aj, fury has none

fury could fiddle around and win early rounds, but hes getting caught and stopped eventually.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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I think Joshua beats them both but fury is certainly better than wilder.

There’s some die hard s that defend wilder on here and there’s some die hard s that hate fury, but being objective how anyone can say wilder has a better chance based on what we’ve seen I don’t know.

Wilder has a punchers chance vs both, but is the underdog for both (assuming fury is fit and well, which he isn’t so this is make believe)

Fury has the biggest size and reach over anybody, moves pretty well for a big guy, that’s problems for anyone. What would be his undoing is he doesn’t have the big punch to deter Joshua if he exploded like he did vs Wlad in round 5. I don’t see how fury keeps him off. He can’t be on his bike the whole fight vs a guy like Joshua. He’d need to give him something back. Joshua TKO.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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Ossyrules wrote:I think Joshua beats them both but fury is certainly better than wilder.

There’s some die hard s that defend wilder on here and there’s some die hard s that hate fury, but being objective how anyone can say wilder has a better chance based on what we’ve seen I don’t know.

Wilder has a punchers chance vs both, but is the underdog for both (assuming fury is fit and well, which he isn’t so this is make believe)

Fury has the biggest size and reach over anybody, moves pretty well for a big guy, that’s problems for anyone. What would be his undoing is he doesn’t have the big punch to deter Joshua if he exploded like he did vs Wlad in round 5. I don’t see how fury keeps him off. He can’t be on his bike the whole fight vs a guy like Joshua. He’d need to give him something back. Joshua TKO.
Kind of odd, you ask a question and then answer it yourself. :maybe:
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:I think Joshua beats them both but fury is certainly better than wilder.

There’s some die hard s that defend wilder on here and there’s some die hard s that hate fury, but being objective how anyone can say wilder has a better chance based on what we’ve seen I don’t know.

Wilder has a punchers chance vs both, but is the underdog for both (assuming fury is fit and well, which he isn’t so this is make believe)

Fury has the biggest size and reach over anybody, moves pretty well for a big guy, that’s problems for anyone. What would be his undoing is he doesn’t have the big punch to deter Joshua if he exploded like he did vs Wlad in round 5. I don’t see how fury keeps him off. He can’t be on his bike the whole fight vs a guy like Joshua. He’d need to give him something back. Joshua TKO.
Kind of odd, you ask a question and then answer it yourself. :maybe:
Don’t follow what you mean?
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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i mean you give wilder a punchers chance and say you dont see how fury has pop to keep josh off, so why dont u understand why ppl would give wilder a better shot?
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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You said you don't understand how someone could give Wilder a better chance and then acknowledge Wilder has a punchers chance while stating you don't see fury being able to avoid an onslaught from aj.
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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jamamb wrote:i mean you give wilder a punchers chance and say you dont see how fury has pop to keep josh off, so why dont u understand why ppl would give wilder a better shot?
Cos I think wilder would get knocked out as he’s so open, fury actually has some boxing in his locker. So whilst I see both getting beat, I think fury is the tougher fight
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You said you don't understand how someone could give Wilder a better chance and then acknowledge Wilder has a punchers chance while stating you don't see fury being able to avoid an onslaught from aj.
Think they both get beat but fury is the tougher fight
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Re: Calzaghe: Fury Would Be Tougher Fight for Joshua Than Wilder

Post by jamamb »

for me theres just no 'out' for fury due to his lack of power whereas wilders power gives him a not very big but still realistic shot. aside from having power to ko joshua i think even if deontay lost he could still get ajs respect and make him hesistant. fury cant do it at all.
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