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Ossyrules wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 14:18 Yeah it’s a bad situation. Can only hope wilder deals with him quickly and spectacularly and we at least come out of the fight with some promise moving forward

punchoutsb wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 14:20

Ossyrules wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 14:18 Yeah it’s a bad situation. Can only hope wilder deals with him quickly and spectacularly and we at least come out of the fight with some promise moving forward

Can't wait for the Molina rematch the WBC are desperately trying to set

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 14:29 Shut up all of you.
Titles matter.
Especially that prestigious green belt.
Wilder/Stiverne is a legitamate championship fight.
Two of the best going at it for glory.

Ossyrules wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 14:32

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 14:29 Shut up all of you.
Titles matter.
Especially that prestigious green belt.
Wilder/Stiverne is a legitamate championship fight.
Two of the best going at it for glory.

Fight of the century mate

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:01

Ossyrules wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 14:32

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 14:29 Shut up all of you.
Titles matter.
Especially that prestigious green belt.
Wilder/Stiverne is a legitamate championship fight.
Two of the best going at it for glory.

Fight of the century mate

Exactly. I love all championship fights.
They are all legitimate.

The WBC, WBO, WBA, & IBF are the perfect organizations to run the sport.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:01

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

My daughter is 18. She started watching boxing with me a couple of years ago. Her first reality check in the sport was when she said how can 4 guys claim to be world champion in the same division.
I couldn't give her a reasonable answer she would accept

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:06

tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:01

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

My daughter is 18. She started watching boxing with me a couple of years ago. Her first reality check in the sport was when she said how can 4 guys claim to be world champion in the same division.
I couldn't give her a reasonable answer she would accept

Because there isn't one. It's stupid on the face of it. We understand it, and tolerate it, but I for one hate it, and would love to see us go back to only have 1 World Champion...and 7 less weight classes too for that matter...but...one step at a time

tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:01

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

My daughter is 18. She started watching boxing with me a couple of years ago. Her first reality check in the sport was when she said how can 4 guys claim to be world champion in the same division.
I couldn't give her a reasonable answer she would accept

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:11

tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:01

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

My daughter is 18. She started watching boxing with me a couple of years ago. Her first reality check in the sport was when she said how can 4 guys claim to be world champion in the same division.
I couldn't give her a reasonable answer she would accept

There is a very reasonable answer: pro boxing is not a sport.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

If you add Super Champions, Diamond Champions and NABwhatever it's over 100

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:13

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

If you add Super Champions, Diamond Champions and NABwhatever it's over 100

Oh yeah if you wanna count something like IBO it's over 100, then you also got WBA Regular and Interim Champions...it's an absolute joke, and it's no wonder why most casual fans don't bother to keep track of all this stuff.

I like the idea of Regional Titles like say (British Champion), (Japanese Champion), (European Champion) etc...but there should only be ONE World Champion.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:17

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:13

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:09
If you add Super Champions, Diamond Champions and NABwhatever it's over 100

Oh yeah if you wanna count something like IBO it's over 100, then you also got WBA Regular and Interim Champions...it's an absolute joke, and it's no wonder why most casual fans don't bother to keep track of all this stuff.

I like the idea of Regional Titles like say (British Champion), (Japanese Champion), (European Champion) etc...but there should only be ONE World Champion.

I would say 99% of the world agrees with you

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:13

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 16:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 15:32 I hope you guys are just f*cking around

Surely nobody REALLY thinks it's a good idea to have 4 World Champions per weight class, 17 weight classes. That's 68 World Champions in the same sport...that's ridiculous.

If you add Super Champions, Diamond Champions and NABwhatever it's over 100

Oh yeah if you wanna count something like IBO it's over 100, then you also got WBA Regular and Interim Champions...it's an absolute joke, and it's no wonder why most casual fans don't bother to keep track of all this stuff.

I like the idea of Regional Titles like say (British Champion), (Japanese Champion), (European Champion) etc...but there should only be ONE World Champion.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 13:41 It's worse than that...he was the mandatory BEFORE Ortiz's failed test. He accepted step aside money for Ortiz.

Ricky_ wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 13:39 Stiverne is a 40 year old, inactive boxer.

He lost his title to Wilder nearly 3 years ago to Wilder, in a fight that was so conclusive it's hard to imagine a less worthy rematch in a title shot.

A few months later, Stiverne confirmed what most people suspected after the Wilder bout - that he was completely shot. In November 2015 he faced the tomato can known as Derric Rossy, a heavyweight that loses 1/3rd of his fights, and came into the fight with 4 losses from his last 6 bouts.

Rossy put Stiverne on the canvas in the first round, and made a close contest of the uneventful 10-rounder, which many fans believed he won.

That was 2 full years ago. Stiverne is a 40 year-old shot fighter, that's essentially coming out of retirement.... yet somehow we are to believe in some perverse ranking system, this guy is now the mandatory in the wake of Ortiz' failed test?

Let's all point and laugh at the WBC, who continue to shamefully desecrate what should be the most prestigious belt in the sport.