Canelo Will Make Decision on Golovkin Rematch in a Few Weeks

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The negotiations to finalize the rematch between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin will continue to progress and there are less details to agree on for confirmation of the fight, which would take place in May 2018 during Cinco De Mayo weekend.

Eric Gomez, president of Golden Boy Promotions, who promote Canelo, said his company will continue talking and signing this rematch fight is the main objective of both parties. He said that in the coming weeks they would present a possible preliminary agreement to continue the process of confirming the fight.

"(Everything) is going very well, we're fine, we're talking, there's one detail that has to be fixed and fine-tuned and in the next few weeks we're going to sit down with Canelo to present everything to him and he's going to make the decision," Gomez explained to ESPN Deportes.

There is the idea that Golden Boy may wait until the aftermath of next month's bout between David Lemieux and Billy Joe Saunders, who battle for the WBO middleweight title. If Lemieux - also promoted by Golden Boy - wins the WBO belt, then he can be used as a bargaining chip to gain more favorable terms from Golovkin's side.

The location for Canelo-GGG II would figure to have Las Vegas as the frontrunner to host the contest. Possible other venues include ATT Stadium in Arlington Texas, although New York and Los Angeles are not ruled out.

"We have not touched on that yet. The important thing, right now, is to reach an agreement and then to see the arenas," said Gomez.
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Oscar and Golden Boy are so damn obvious with what they are doing about this rematch jazz. Obviously, the rematch is not going to be either guys next fight. If Lemieux beats BJS then they will obviously have Canelo fight Lemieux next (a fight in which i would love) and hope that GGG keeps aging aggressively and possibly lose his tuneup. But one is thing is sure in my mind...this fight is not happening for awhile or maybe at all in 2018.

If i'm GGG, i'm not even mad about it. I'd never fight Canelo again after the beating GGG took on the cards that night. The fix is in on anything Canelo.
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I’d really like golovkin to get a bit of justice, it’s annoying he had a win taken from him.

What decision does canelo really need time to make?
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Clearly, GB is playing games. Gomez says one thing, DLH says "let's wait till Lemieux fights BJS" or "let's relax and celebrate Thanksgiving and Christmas and start negotiations in January". Team Golovkin behaved stupidly not taking BJS fight in December.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 12:27 Clearly, GB is playing games. Gomez says one thing, DLH says "let's wait till Lemieux fights BJS" or "let's relax and celebrate Thanksgiving and Christmas and start negotiations in January". Team Golovkin behaved stupidly not taking BJS fight in December.
GGG is not one to get injured, they should have took the BJS fight in December, you're right.. GGG used to be really active, minimum of 3 fights a year, 4 a year not too long ago.. 2016 and 2017 has seen four fights.

He could have surpassed 20 defences by now.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 12:27 Clearly, GB is playing games. Gomez says one thing, DLH says "let's wait till Lemieux fights BJS" or "let's relax and celebrate Thanksgiving and Christmas and start negotiations in January". Team Golovkin behaved stupidly not taking BJS fight in December.
There’s nothing wrong about commencing negotiations in January for a fight scheduled for May 2018. It’s too early to jump to conclusions at this stage.

I agree with your point about Golovkin facing Saunders when he originally had the chance.
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If they didn't want to negotiate till January, they shouldn't have insisted that Golovkin waited till May.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 13:04 If they didn't want to negotiate till January, they shouldn't have insisted that Golovkin waited till May.
It's a piss take. I liked watching GGG fight 3 times a year. Also they kind of hurt their chances of fightinh for ALL the titles.
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if canelo can muster a few more punches a round he should win. faster hands and far better boxing skills than ggg but needed too many breaks and allowed ggg to edge rounds on activity with weak glancing stuff. but hes been in with the monster now and knows hes not so scary. took his shots like nothing. maybe that removes some nervous energy. i think canelo should be eager to take it and i think he gives ggg that L.
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far better boxing skills than ggg
LOL
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ggg could hardly land a clean punch on him. canelo landed many but didnt work enough to clearly win.it seemed like ggg just willed and worked his way to a draw. canelo has more room for improvement and will win if they fight again.
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jamamb wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 15:16 ggg could hardly land a clean punch on him. canelo landed many but didnt work enough to clearly win.it seemed like ggg just willed and worked his way to a draw. canelo has more room for improvement and will win if they fight again.
GGG’s biggest strength and weakness is his chin. He can’t be hurt, so he doesn’t bother blocking punches. A strategic gameplan to D up is an easy improvement to make for the next fight.
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i agree that hes got a top notch chin but i dont expect much changes defensively. ggg has never moved his head or bothered to cover much and hes simply a guy who is there to be hit by the best.

he cant seriously hurt canelo and cant outbox or outspeed him, which means he needs to constantly be throwing to outwork him by large margins, and that just makes him more hittable for a good counter puncher.
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jamamb wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 22:23 i agree that hes got a top notch chin but i dont expect much changes defensively. ggg has never moved his head or bothered to cover much and hes simply a guy who is there to be hit by the best.

he cant seriously hurt canelo and cant outbox or outspeed him, which means he needs to constantly be throwing to outwork him by large margins, and that just makes him more hittable for a good counter puncher.
Jesus Christ, ggg outboxed him for the whole middle portion of the fight, say from rd 2 or 3. Ggg sacrifices some defence for pressure but picks his spots, he can defend well with his use of distance, his blocking is decent, head movements a little one dimensional but he’s focused on the attack so somethings got to give. He didn’t simply bull charge Canelo like a Lemieux would do, it’s subtle but it’s there. He fought hard, maybe harder than he should of against Canelo rather than boxing but he obviously wanted to win and put on a show. If he focusses on outboxing Canelo, which he can do, there skills are comparable, hit the body and goes into attack mode down the stretch he could hurt/stop Canelo. Canelo chance is Golovkin getting older overnight again and that is very real.
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dont think he outboxed canelo at any stage. his success was in volume. canelo landed cleaner and with better accuracy thtoughout. but he didnt have the output to land enougj in enough rounds, so ggg by way of his greater output edged rounds with scrappy glancing stuff, mainly jabs. i think ggg did everything he can realistically do and he still only got a draw. his work is more cut out than canelos.ggg even older now too.
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It wasn’t some mauling outworking by Golovkin. It was boxing after the first few, his jab was on point and his right hand got through when he wasn’t loading up. That’s what makes me think a different approach could improve things, focus on landing rather than the harder shots. And not to mention that jab was landing on Canelo who had underrated headmovment so that was an achievement, imagine the accuracy going to the body. Having said that I agree that Canelo landed the cleaner sharper and better quality punches (as Golovkin was making the fight and coming into range as Canelo sat on his flat feet when he wasn’t running) but he put every bit of speed and muscle twitch fibre into them and as a result could only land a few before needing a breather. Very hard to time those explosions of Canelo but ggg could have him figured out now and with a more patient approach early on.
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jamamb wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 23:01 dont think he outboxed canelo at any stage. his success was in volume. canelo landed cleaner and with better accuracy thtoughout. but he didnt have the output to land enough in enough rounds, so ggg by way of his greater output edged rounds with scrappy glancing stuff, mainly jabs. i think ggg did everything he can realistically do and he still only got a draw. his work is more cut out than canelos.ggg even older now too.
Because he was running.
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Oscar and canelo should stop this waiting game.

Its obvious people want a rematch, than just make it happen. No mstch up isbetter than GGG vs Canelo II
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What I wonder is why Canelo hasn't even made his mind up if he wants the rematch or not?
Surely if he actually wanted a clear win he would have said the next day or a week later "Lets do it!"
But to be this far on and he has not said either way makes me wonder how bad he actually wants it?
He has the rematch clause, GGG doesn't.
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KiwiRider wrote: 08 Nov 2017, 01:41 What I wonder is why Canelo hasn't even made his mind up if he wants the rematch or not?
Surely if he actually wanted a clear win he would have said the next day or a week later "Lets do it!"
But to be this far on and he has not said either way makes me wonder how bad he actually wants it?
He has the rematch clause, GGG doesn't.
He doesn’t really strike me as someone really enthused with boxing and fighting the best at this time. Watching those 24/7s I thought he was more annoyed that he had to fight Golovkin and boxings just his job, maybe he’s sick of his day job, burnt out or something.
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lazboy wrote: 08 Nov 2017, 02:20
KiwiRider wrote: 08 Nov 2017, 01:41 What I wonder is why Canelo hasn't even made his mind up if he wants the rematch or not?
Surely if he actually wanted a clear win he would have said the next day or a week later "Lets do it!"
But to be this far on and he has not said either way makes me wonder how bad he actually wants it?
He has the rematch clause, GGG doesn't.
He doesn’t really strike me as someone really enthused with boxing and fighting the best at this time. Watching those 24/7s I thought he was more annoyed that he had to fight Golovkin and boxings just his job, maybe he’s sick of his day job, burnt out or something.
Yeah. I think you right. Maybe all those millions took the fire from him.
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I think GBP will put off the rematch until fall, and fight BJS in May. They will steer clear of Jacobs, Andrade, and Charlo for May.
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jamamb wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 23:01 dont think he outboxed canelo at any stage.
LOL. That's because you don't know sh!t about boxing.
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Badhusker wrote: 08 Nov 2017, 08:47 I think GBP will put off the rematch until fall, and fight BJS in May. They will steer clear of Jacobs, Andrade, and Charlo for May.
lol nice job sneaking andrades name in. rightfully few give a fuckk about him. boring and career best win getting dropped on his ass by vanes. stupid business sense too.
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jamamb wrote: 07 Nov 2017, 14:57 if canelo can muster a few more punches a round he should win. faster hands and far better boxing skills than ggg but needed too many breaks and allowed ggg to edge rounds on activity with weak glancing stuff. but hes been in with the monster now and knows hes not so scary. took his shots like nothing. maybe that removes some nervous energy. i think canelo should be eager to take it and i think he gives ggg that L.
He did the odd flashy combo and a big shot, but the better boxer on the night was clearly golovkin. Canelo was lucky not to already have an L from it. Hopefully golovkin will take more advantage of canelo on the ropes this time and put him away
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