Amir Monsier - What could have been

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drunkenpiper36
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Amir Monsier - What could have been

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A relatively small heavyweight for the era he partook in and was out of the ring for about a decade. Didn't really get his career going until he was around 39-40 years old.. Yet he still had moderate success. Could this guy have been something under different circumstances?
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drunkenpiper36 wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 16:18 A relatively small heavyweight for the era he partook in and was out of the ring for about a decade. Didn't really get his career going until he was around 39-40 years old.. Yet he still had moderate success. Could this guy have been something under different circumstances?
I've always liked him.. at 44, i wouldn't even say he's shot. He's nkt the best HW out there but he's hard as nails. Had he not missed a decade, I could see him being an opponent for Vitali whilst he held the WBC title.

He was unlucky with his fight with Breazeale, winning every rounds, but he bit his own tongue and couldn't breathe. The draw with Washington was bullsh*t too.. He's been making noise, but no one is interested unfortunately.. but he would be a great test for any contender right now..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 16:50
drunkenpiper36 wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 16:18 A relatively small heavyweight for the era he partook in and was out of the ring for about a decade. Didn't really get his career going until he was around 39-40 years old.. Yet he still had moderate success. Could this guy have been something under different circumstances?
I've always liked him.. at 44, i wouldn't even say he's shot. He's nkt the best HW out there but he's hard as nails. Had he not missed a decade, I could see him being an opponent for Vitali whilst he held the WBC title.

He was unlucky with his fight with Breazeale, winning every rounds, but he bit his own tongue and couldn't breathe. The draw with Washington was bullsh*t too.. He's been making noise, but no one is interested unfortunately.. but he would be a great test for any contender right now..

He certainly is tough, especially for a man his age and size. The Steve Cunningham match was an incredible fight. Don't think I took a breath the whole time.
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Kind of risky to speculate what might have been with him. He got in superb shape while he was in prison; but had he never been locked-up, would he still have the same motivation? Maybe, but it's hard to guess. He fought well enough in his 40's, but if he was boxing all his life, his prime would've probably ended a lot sooner due to taking lots more punches in his 20's and 30's. Plus, with his short arms and action-oriented style, he probably wasn't ever going to reach 40+ pro fights, even if he stayed out of prison, because he probably would've accumulated wear and tear pretty fast.
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I like Mansour. It's very possible he would've gotten a title shot if he'd beaten Dominic Breazeale actually. Don't know what his career would've been without the Prison time. He's no world beater, and I don't think he ever would've been, but we probably could've gotten a lot more fun fights with the guy.

Maybe not though. Who knows. Like Lackeos mentions maybe it's the Prison time that motivated him to do what he's done.
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I find myself in the strange position of being in agreement with pretty much every word posted on this thread so far. The only thing I would say is that I'm always reading how he lost to Breazeale because he injured his tongue, and while that may be true it conveys the impression that it was purely bad luck as if he had simply tripped over and hurt himself for example.

It may have been a freak incident but I do think it unfairly portrays Breazeale as some kind of innocent bystander, rather than the probable inflictor of the damage. I seriously doubt Mansour just bit through his tongue without any assistance.

I do like and admire Mansour's toughness though. It would be really good if his efforts were rewarded with a decent payday (title-shot?) before he bows out.
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He may not be out of the running yet, if he beats Kuzmin he picks up a decent WBC ranking. I think there's every chance he exposes Kuzmin who hasn't really been in with anyone and doesn't exactly seem a beast...
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 16:50
drunkenpiper36 wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 16:18 A relatively small heavyweight for the era he partook in and was out of the ring for about a decade. Didn't really get his career going until he was around 39-40 years old.. Yet he still had moderate success. Could this guy have been something under different circumstances?
I've always liked him.. at 44, i wouldn't even say he's shot. He's nkt the best HW out there but he's hard as nails. Had he not missed a decade, I could see him being an opponent for Vitali whilst he held the WBC title.

He was unlucky with his fight with Breazeale, winning every rounds, but he bit his own tongue and couldn't breathe. The draw with Washington was bullsh*t too.. He's been making noise, but no one is interested unfortunately.. but he would be a great test for any contender right now..
TBH that's not much of an achievement.
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Well nobody is going to confuse his resumé with Mike Tyson's admittedly, but when you consider his disadvantages in terms of his size, his age, his lateness to the party, and his personal history, he impresses the hell out of me. The man is tougher than a two dollar steak and the epitome of the true warrior.

I reckon you could count the number of heavyweights (that still have ambitions to fight for a world title) who would be willing to travel to face Sergei Kuzmin on his home patch, on the fingers of one hand.
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