Sergey Kovalev vs Vyacheslav Shabranskyy

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Sergey Kovalev vs Vyacheslav Shabranskyy

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For the vacant WBO Light Heavyweight title live on Sky this Saturday, Kovalev's first fight since Ward destroyed his legend and the myth that he's some immovable monster, granted the stoppage was bullshite but no doubt Ward had him hurt and Kovalev was showing all the signs of a guy looking for a way out

Last time I seen Shabranskyy he had that humdinger with Barrera which he got ended up getting destroyed himself so both guys showing recent signs of vulnrability after being lorded up as uber tough Russians so both guys will have doubts going in but also can take confidence that the other guy can be hurt and stopped

Kovalev has all the experience though and is the better technical fighter I have him stopping Shabranskyy later on
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why do ppl talk like kov had some myth of being unbeatable? hes always had clear vulnerable points and was underdog for both ward fights. seems like a bit of revisionist hype tbh.

he should win here though unless hes totally mentally shot. anyone who can take that many rounds vs ward is still very good.
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Kovalev looking in unreal shape 🥊
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Oh dear he's using one of those stupid balls, Shabranskyy by 1st round KO.
https://twitter.com/KrusherKovalev/stat ... 3477531648
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Always been rumours of Krusher being a nightmare behind the scenes. Not taking advice, drinking in camp etc... He should still deal with Shabranskyy comfortably enough though.

Actually a decent enough card this. I'll watch it Sunday morning with breakfast :TU:
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jamamb wrote: 21 Nov 2017, 04:37 why do ppl talk like kov had some myth of being unbeatable? hes always had clear vulnerable points and was underdog for both ward fights. seems like a bit of revisionist hype tbh.

he should win here though unless hes totally mentally shot. anyone who can take that many rounds vs ward is still very good.
You don't believe there was a myth that Kovalev was some unbeatable monster?? I never believed in it and I imagine most people who post on boxing forums never did either but amongst the masses I've spoke to plenty of people who thought Kovalev was a monster
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seen as a hard punching mean guy but hardly seen as unbeatable. hed already been down a few times, shown stamina pronlems, and looked shit b4 the first ward fight. ward was the favourite both times

i think its more like we saw the bully cave in when stood up to, but dont think his aura was that of unbeatable
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handsofstone wrote: 21 Nov 2017, 09:27
jamamb wrote: 21 Nov 2017, 04:37 why do ppl talk like kov had some myth of being unbeatable? hes always had clear vulnerable points and was underdog for both ward fights. seems like a bit of revisionist hype tbh.

he should win here though unless hes totally mentally shot. anyone who can take that many rounds vs ward is still very good.
You don't believe there was a myth that Kovalev was some unbeatable monster?? I never believed in it and I imagine most people who post on boxing forums never did either but amongst the masses I've spoke to plenty of people who thought Kovalev was a monster
Some people on here definitely thought Kovalev was a monster and there was no way Ward could ever stop him...
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Kovalev has his weaknesses but he's still a good fighter👍
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I think he is on the slide for sure ! Heavy drinker by all accounts! Not great for career longevity!

All Russian match up with Beterbiev would be great ! I think AB beat him in the amateurs and SK still calls it a robbery.
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I was still surprised the way Kovalev crumbled against Ward.i expected another Ward win but didn’t expect Kovalev to lose in that manner— did anyone really?
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Nov 2017, 15:48
handsofstone wrote: 21 Nov 2017, 09:27
jamamb wrote: 21 Nov 2017, 04:37 why do ppl talk like kov had some myth of being unbeatable? hes always had clear vulnerable points and was underdog for both ward fights. seems like a bit of revisionist hype tbh.

he should win here though unless hes totally mentally shot. anyone who can take that many rounds vs ward is still very good.
You don't believe there was a myth that Kovalev was some unbeatable monster?? I never believed in it and I imagine most people who post on boxing forums never did either but amongst the masses I've spoke to plenty of people who thought Kovalev was a monster
Some people on here definitely thought Kovalev was a monster and there was no way Ward could ever stop him...
ward isnt really a puncher so im not sure that belief is based on kov being thought of as unbeatable , rather than just on ward being thought of as a guy who usually wins by decision. obviously if kov was really thought of as unbeatable he wouldnt have been an underdog both fights. hed struggled with chilemba and already been dropped multiple times and looked vulnerable first pascal fight.

imo ppl are just going lazy and lumping him into an ivan drago like unbeatable monster category because hes a mean hard hitting russian. but hes long been seen as having limitations and they were very obvious in his fight right before ward.and like i said the odds were on him losing to ward both time.

the invincible stuff is revionist hype. a scary bully yes, but unbeatable fornicate no.
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got to take Kovalev in this one...
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Shabranskyy has been dropped a few times now, all with right hands. Not a good weakness to have going up against Kovalev.

Kovalev KO4.
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Kovalev will KO shabranskyy within 6
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Great scramble scores if you combined the letters in their names.
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jamamb wrote: 21 Nov 2017, 04:37 why do ppl talk like kov had some myth of being unbeatable?
I thought he was unbeatable and would go through Ward, how wrong I was!
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Kovalev is a monster.
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Gnome wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 14:24
jamamb wrote: 21 Nov 2017, 04:37 why do ppl talk like kov had some myth of being unbeatable?
I thought he was unbeatable and would go through Ward, how wrong I was!
And me...
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Anyone give Shabranksky any remote chance here?
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ShadrachSimmo wrote: 25 Nov 2017, 13:58 Anyone give Shabranksky any remote chance here?
Nah, I think Koval takes this and hopefully meets Bivol soon...
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Shabranskyy looks a rough man on paper...

But in the ring he'll be no match for Kovalev :bag:
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WBO Rankings -

1. Olexander Gvozdyk
2. Sergey Kovalev
3. Sullivan Barrera
4. Marcus Browne
5. Anthony Yarde
6. Karo Murat
7. Mike Lee
8. Dominic Boesel
9. Manuel Ceballos
10. Vyacheslav Shabranskyy
11. Joe Smith, Jr.
12. Robert Parzeczewski
13. Blake Caperello
14. Damien Hooper
15. Fanlong Meng

I'm guessing the Kovalev/Shabranskyy winner will look to be matched with the Barrera/Valera winner this evening...
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wesshaw1985 wrote: 25 Nov 2017, 15:58 WBO Rankings -

1. Olexander Gvozdyk
2. Sergey Kovalev
3. Sullivan Barrera
4. Marcus Browne
5. Anthony Yarde
6. Karo Murat
7. Mike Lee
8. Dominic Boesel
9. Manuel Ceballos
10. Vyacheslav Shabranskyy
11. Joe Smith, Jr.
12. Robert Parzeczewski
13. Blake Caperello
14. Damien Hooper
15. Fanlong Meng

I'm guessing the Kovalev/Shabranskyy winner will look to be matched with the Barrera/Valera winner this evening...

Sounds likes Bivol will fight Barrera

Which would leave Gvozdyk to fight Kovalev

Much better scenario
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Naandrew wrote: 25 Nov 2017, 17:39
wesshaw1985 wrote: 25 Nov 2017, 15:58 WBO Rankings -

1. Olexander Gvozdyk
2. Sergey Kovalev
3. Sullivan Barrera
4. Marcus Browne
5. Anthony Yarde
6. Karo Murat
7. Mike Lee
8. Dominic Boesel
9. Manuel Ceballos
10. Vyacheslav Shabranskyy
11. Joe Smith, Jr.
12. Robert Parzeczewski
13. Blake Caperello
14. Damien Hooper
15. Fanlong Meng

I'm guessing the Kovalev/Shabranskyy winner will look to be matched with the Barrera/Valera winner this evening...

Sounds likes Bivol will fight Barrera

Which would leave Gvozdyk to fight Kovalev

Much better scenario
as long as things keep moving then i'm happy with either scenario.
Stevenson holding the WBC hostage is the only thing letting the division down...
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