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Saunders beat a rookie Eubanks and faces Lemieux next. I rate Lemieux highly but I can see why some don't.

But if Eubank and Lemieux squared off next who do you think would win?

eubank

jamamb wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 17:25eubank

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Eubank by wide decision.

Eubank decision

It's a hard one to call right now. If Eubank gets through Groves handily, then for sure Lemieux will get the same. If Groves beats Eubank then I expect Lemieux to do the same.
I feel there is a little too much hype surrounding Eubank. It's hard to justify it until he has fought at the top level and proven himself to be a world beater.

Agree about the hype

Jnr has improved & is a good fighter

But still very flawed, not a great boxer imo

Both fighters failed in their biggest test.

That's why it's interesting

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 17:48 It's a hard one to call right now. If Eubank gets through Groves handily, then for sure Lemieux will get the same. If Groves beats Eubank then I expect Lemieux to do the same.
I feel there is a little too much hype surrounding Eubank. It's hard to justify it until he has fought at the top level and proven himself to be a world beater.

I think groves will win quite handily. He's a better technician and s bigger hitter too.

I like Eubank Jnr. He gets a lot of stick from some of the hardcore fans because he's 'unconventional' and the son of a Brit legend.... but he's a good fighter and he's improving. His engine is crazy and he comes to fight! I want him to do well. His dad is a hindrance to him though.

Wide points win CEJ

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:38

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 17:48 It's a hard one to call right now. If Eubank gets through Groves handily, then for sure Lemieux will get the same. If Groves beats Eubank then I expect Lemieux to do the same.
I feel there is a little too much hype surrounding Eubank. It's hard to justify it until he has fought at the top level and proven himself to be a world beater.

I think groves will win quite handily. He's a better technician and s bigger hitter too.

You're right in what you say about Groves but Eubank is probably mentally stronger and has a better chin and engine. He's gonna put it on Groves for a sustained spell at some point in that fight and I'm not sure if Groves can stand up to that tbh. I see this as a 50/50 fight and no outcome would surprise me but gun to my head, I'd favour Eubank....

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:39 I like Eubank Jnr. He gets a lot of stick from some of the hardcore fans because he's 'unconventional' and the son of a Brit legend.... but he's a good fighter and he's improving. His engine is crazy and he comes to fight! I want him to do well. His dad is a hindrance to him though.

I don't hate any fighter. Always find it weird for boxing fans to hate boxers.

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:43

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:38

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 17:48 It's a hard one to call right now. If Eubank gets through Groves handily, then for sure Lemieux will get the same. If Groves beats Eubank then I expect Lemieux to do the same.
I feel there is a little too much hype surrounding Eubank. It's hard to justify it until he has fought at the top level and proven himself to be a world beater.

I think groves will win quite handily. He's a better technician and s bigger hitter too.

You're right in what you say about Groves but Eubank is probably mentally stronger and has a better chin and engine. He's gonna put it on Groves for a sustained spell at some point in that fight and I'm not sure if Groves can stand up to that tbh. I see this as a 50/50 fight and no outcome would surprise me but gun to my head, I'd favour Eubank....

Sportsmans bet, groves will win it pretty handily. Jr isnt that good. Groves isn't quite what he was before froch but still a level above.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 17:48 It's a hard one to call right now. If Eubank gets through Groves handily, then for sure Lemieux will get the same. If Groves beats Eubank then I expect Lemieux to do the same.
I feel there is a little too much hype surrounding Eubank. It's hard to justify it until he has fought at the top level and proven himself to be a world beater.

I think Lemieux is more unproven compared to the hype. He certainly has never done anything to suggest he is on Groves level.

Eubanks I think exposed Saunders limitations. He is a good boxer but he lacks power, and hasn't the stamina for a hard 12 round fight. I think if they fought again Eubanks would nick it against Saunders. Of course a better training regime may make Saunders a much better fighter, he will need to be against lemiueux. Lemiueux is a better boxer than people think, and he has serious one shot power. I've a feeling that Billy is going to come unstuck, but prepared to be proven wrong.

I'd back Eubank on points. Think he'd outwork Lemieux while he was waiting to load up on big shots.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 19:11

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 17:48 It's a hard one to call right now. If Eubank gets through Groves handily, then for sure Lemieux will get the same. If Groves beats Eubank then I expect Lemieux to do the same.
I feel there is a little too much hype surrounding Eubank. It's hard to justify it until he has fought at the top level and proven himself to be a world beater.

I think Lemieux is more unproven compared to the hype. He certainly has never done anything to suggest he is on Groves level.

I agree about Lemieux not being on the same level as Groves. What I was trying to express was that if Groves knocked Eubank out, Lemieux would have a good chance at doing the same. Lemieux still carries more power than anyone I can recall Eubank fighting??
A prime Abraham maybe, but it was a far from prime Abraham that Eubank fought.

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:43

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:38

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 17:48 It's a hard one to call right now. If Eubank gets through Groves handily, then for sure Lemieux will get the same. If Groves beats Eubank then I expect Lemieux to do the same.
I feel there is a little too much hype surrounding Eubank. It's hard to justify it until he has fought at the top level and proven himself to be a world beater.

I think groves will win quite handily. He's a better technician and s bigger hitter too.

You're right in what you say about Groves but Eubank is probably mentally stronger and has a better chin and engine. He's gonna put it on Groves for a sustained spell at some point in that fight and I'm not sure if Groves can stand up to that tbh. I see this as a 50/50 fight and no outcome would surprise me but gun to my head, I'd favour Eubank....

Who tested Eubanks chin Stuart?
I haven't seen all his fights, only the last ten or so
I was under the impression his chin hasn't been tested at the top of the power scale.

Personally I think Lemieux will beat BJS in a few weeks time... wouldn't be surprised if he beat him quite handily too

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 21:11

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 19:11

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 17:48 It's a hard one to call right now. If Eubank gets through Groves handily, then for sure Lemieux will get the same. If Groves beats Eubank then I expect Lemieux to do the same.
I feel there is a little too much hype surrounding Eubank. It's hard to justify it until he has fought at the top level and proven himself to be a world beater.

I think Lemieux is more unproven compared to the hype. He certainly has never done anything to suggest he is on Groves level.

I agree about Lemieux not being on the same level as Groves. What I was trying to express was that if Groves knocked Eubank out, Lemieux would have a good chance at doing the same. Lemieux still carries more power than anyone I can recall Eubank fighting??
A prime Abraham maybe, but it was a far from prime Abraham that Eubank fought.

I don't think he's much more equipped than Abraham to get his shot home. I also don't see Groves stopping Eubank and I thought Eubank edged Saunders who I expect to beat Lemieux. LOL, quite a conundrum sorting this one out.

Eubank to win on points.

I can't see what the big fuss is about with Lemieux and expect Saunders to win on points when they fight.

dont think theres really that big of a fuss. ppl who go on about him being over hyped think hes more hyped than he is.ppl hardly rate him as a p4p fighter. would prob be doing better in this poll if he was that hyped. a fun but limited fighter.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 19:11

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:43

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:38

I think groves will win quite handily. He's a better technician and s bigger hitter too.

You're right in what you say about Groves but Eubank is probably mentally stronger and has a better chin and engine. He's gonna put it on Groves for a sustained spell at some point in that fight and I'm not sure if Groves can stand up to that tbh. I see this as a 50/50 fight and no outcome would surprise me but gun to my head, I'd favour Eubank....

Sportsmans bet, groves will win it pretty handily. Jr isnt that good. Groves isn't quite what he was before froch but still a level above.

It's not something I'd bet on tbh because I think it could go either way. I just fancy Eubank to prevail. I can't wait for the fight though. Hoping there's a good undercard

KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 21:15

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:43

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:38

I think groves will win quite handily. He's a better technician and s bigger hitter too.

You're right in what you say about Groves but Eubank is probably mentally stronger and has a better chin and engine. He's gonna put it on Groves for a sustained spell at some point in that fight and I'm not sure if Groves can stand up to that tbh. I see this as a 50/50 fight and no outcome would surprise me but gun to my head, I'd favour Eubank....

Who tested Eubanks chin Stuart?
I haven't seen all his fights, only the last ten or so
I was under the impression his chin hasn't been tested at the top of the power scale.

He's not been tagged by a top level puncher as yet but I've seen him take some big digs and he's not flinched. He looks tougher and more solid than Groves, who I think still has an air of fragility around him. I guess we'll find out in February man.