Manuel Charr vs. Fres Oquendo Ordered By The WBA

[Ruthless-RKO]

The World Boxing Association (WBA) Championships Committee has officially ordered the teams behind Germany's Manuel Charr, who holds the WBA "regular" heavyweight championship, and Puerto Rican contender Fres Oquendo, who is number three in the WBA rankings at more than 200 pounds, to start negotiations for their fight.

Charr won the WBA belt last weekend after beating Russian Alexander Ustinov by unanimous decision, while Oquendo has a New York court order to fight for the WBA world title in the heavyweight division.

Both parties were duly notified on November 26 and must reach an agreement before December 22, 2017, or the fight will be called to a purse bid and both boxers will get 50%.

[Ruthless-RKO]

The thing is, the winner of this will eventually have to the fight Joshua, or whoever is the WBA Super champion.. WBA will wait a few years before they even order that.. Who knows, Charr or Oquendo may lose the title by then..

It's going to be waste. The good thing is, that the WBA's obliged title shots will soon be over!!

[Boxing Writer]

Oquendo will be about 47 y.o. with 1 fight in the last 5 years when he will have to face AJ. I think he will beat Charr who is beyond awful. I have no doubts that novices like Dubois, Hrgovich and Sirenko all will beat Charr too

[Ruthless-RKO]

Oquendo will be about 47 y.o. with 1 fight in the last 5 years when he will have to face AJ. I think he will beat Charr who is beyond awful. I have no doubts that novices like Dubois, Hrgovich and Sirenko all will beat Charr too

Oquendo hasn't fought in ages. You'd think he'd at least stay busy. He could have still fought someone when the Briggs fight went tits up. Oquendo has been unheard of for ages. Win or Lose, he would still legally be in line for the WBA regular title.

I don't understand why the WBA didn't just order Oquendo vs. Ustinov in the first place. Would have been a crap fight though.

Also, Joshua should never be allowed to fight Oquendo. He would kill him.

[higgs88]

Fres Oquendo hasn't fought since 2014, what the hell is he doing

[Ruthless-RKO]

I saw a post on another forum.. people think Oquendo beats Charr.

[Kalan]

This is the most ridiculous match-up ever ordered for title contention... Could you get 2 weaker opponents for a box-off???

Piss on this fight. Neither is among the top 30 Heavyweights. I don't care where the WBA "ranks" them.

[Ruthless-RKO]

This is the most ridiculous match-up ever ordered for title contention... Could you get 2 weaker opponents for a box-off???

Piss on this fight. Neither is among the top 30 Heavyweights. I don't care where the WBA "ranks" them.

Earlier this year they ordered Shannon Briggs vs. Fres Oquendo.. Only for Briggs to piss dirty last minute. The fight was scrapped!

Would you rather Briggs vs. Oquendo or Charr vs. Oquendo?

[Lackeos]

I would rather see Charr vs Oquendo than for this fight to be cancelled and then Oquendo continues to hold his court-awarded title shot over the WBA for 6 more years.

[Kalan]

This is the most ridiculous match-up ever ordered for title contention... Could you get 2 weaker opponents for a box-off???

Piss on this fight. Neither is among the top 30 Heavyweights. I don't care where the WBA "ranks" them.

Earlier this year they ordered Shannon Briggs vs. Fres Oquendo.. Only for Briggs to piss dirty last minute. The fight was scrapped!

Would you rather Briggs vs. Oquendo or Charr vs. Oquendo?

I don't want to see any dogshitty fights... Match Jarrell Miller vs Alexander Povetkin --- or Andy Ruiz vs Carlos Takam... Something like that.

[gilgamesh]

This has gotta be one of the most ridiculous drawn out vacant title sagas in Boxing history.

Fres Oquendo has sued, sat on the shelf for over 3 years, and had his opponent changed like what...4 times?

Then consider he wasn't deserving of the shot in the first place even before all the inactivity

[Wales]

In a nutshell

Has Oquendo basically been entitled to a WBA title shot since his loss to Chagaev in 2014 due to a rematch clause not being upheld.

Is that basically it? Because Oquendo cannot deserve a shot at the title !!?

[Ruthless-RKO]

In a nutshell

Has Oquendo basically been entitled to a WBA title shot since his loss to Chagaev in 2014 due to a rematch clause not being upheld.

Is that basically it? Because Oquendo cannot deserve a shot at the title !!?

That is basically it. He had fights with Chagaev, Browne, Briggs cancelled. over the last 2-3 years. He has just sat and done nothing.

[chucktaylor]

This is one for the masochistic boxing fans.

[Best Coast]

In a nutshell

Has Oquendo basically been entitled to a WBA title shot since his loss to Chagaev in 2014 due to a rematch clause not being upheld.

Is that basically it? Because Oquendo cannot deserve a shot at the title !!?

That is basically it. He had fights with Chagaev, Browne, Briggs cancelled. over the last 2-3 years. He has just sat and done nothing.

More evidence that the WBA is a complete joke. Obviously Oquendo's people have some crooked links to the WBA leadership...financial or otherwise.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Manuel Charr, who holds a secondary heavyweight world title, had his suspension for a failed drug test lifted by the WBA and was ordered to make a mandatory defense against Fres Oquendo within 60 days, according to a resolution the sanctioning body issued on Monday.

In November, the WBA suspended Charr for six months but did not strip him of the second-tier belt -- unified titlist Anthony Joshua is the WBA's top titleholder -- because the Charr camp protested the way his samples were handled by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.

Charr (31-4, 17 KOs) was scheduled to make the mandatory defense against Oquendo (37-8, 24 KOs) on Sept. 29 in Cologne, Germany, but he tested positive for two banned substances, the anabolic steroids epitrenbolone and drostanolone, in random VADA tests, and the fight was canceled.

After the positive test on Charr's A sample, he had the right had to have his B sample tested and to also have a representative present when the B sample was opened.

"Although VADA and the WBA had reason to assume that Charr did not intend to have a representative attend the opening and testing of the B sample, Charr claims that his requests regarding the B sample testing were not acknowledged," the WBA wrote in its resolution, a copy of which was obtained by ESPN. "Regardless of the disputes over communications and notice, Charr did not have a representative attend the B sample testing. Charr provided a third sample to VADA on Sept. 29, 2018, and the sample tested negative, according to a VADA communication of Nov. 6 2018."

Because of the situation over the B sample test, the WBA did not strip Charr, though it suspended him while it investigated what happened.

"Because of the lapse of time since the taking of the A and B samples and the communication issues alleged by Charr, the suspension is recalled," the WBA wrote. However, the lifting of the suspension was subject to certain conditions.

One of them is Charr must face Oquendo within 60 days. Also, the winner of that fight must next face the winner of a bout the WBA ordered between its interim titlist, Trevor Bryan, and Jarrell "Big Baby" Miller within no more than 120 days after the conclusion of Charr-Oquendo.

"As the exclusive co-promoters of Fres Oquendo, Square Ring and Hitz Boxing intend to comply with the WBA resolution, and as we already have an agreement in place with the Charr camp and the money is already in escrow in the United States, the only thing we need to do now is set the date and the site of the fight," Square Ring promoter John Wirt told ESPN on Monday night.

Charr is also subject to continued random testing by VADA, as are Oquendo, Bryan and Miller. If Charr has another positive test, he will automatically be suspended again and will be stripped of the belt, the WBA said.

[marvelous marv]

The winner of this fight will be inactive for like 2 years then when Fury/Wilder vs Joshua agree to terms the WBA will insist this fight comes first.

[joshj909]

Easy wins for Charr and Miller potentially sorting out this WBA Regular s**t show but history tell me that at least one of the fights doesnt happen....

Additionally, if AJ does end up taking on Miller in April and he pulls out of the Bryan fight then the next in line are Whyte then Joyce...

[Enlightened-One]

It amazes me to see a fighter on the cusp of turning 46 years of age, where it’s been almost five years since his most recent victory (against a journeyman that had lost his four previous bouts prior to facing Oquendo), achieve a shot at one of the WBA’s secondary world titles, facing a “world champion” who himself has only engaged in one bout in almost 2½ years and is also a drug cheat!

Even though I love the sport of boxing – this fight is nothing but a piece of shḯt! What are the WBA thinking by sanctioning this farce?

[chinarich]

Remember the tournament the WBA were going to have to sort out their HW titles and not a single fight happened? What are the chances both of these fights occur?

[SteveO]

Even though I love the sport of boxing – this fight is nothing but a piece of shḯt! What are the WBA thinking by sanctioning this farce?

They have to.
Oquendo is legally entitled to the fight.

[Petercattermole]

Fres has a court order and the WBA must oblige - real crap fight though WBA are a joke with all these 'fake' titles

[Enlightened-One]

Even though I love the sport of boxing – this fight is nothing but a piece of shḯt! What are the WBA thinking by sanctioning this farce?

They have to.
Oquendo is legally entitled to the fight.

Understood and agreed. It doesn't alter the situation though.

[oogiebe]

The thing is, the winner of this will eventually have to the fight Joshua, or whoever is the WBA Super champion.. WBA will wait a few years before they even order that.. Who knows, Charr or Oquendo may lose the title by then..

It's going to be waste. The good thing is, that the WBA's obliged title shots will soon be over!!

According to ESPN, it appears that the WBA further ordered that the winner of this fight will face the winner of a match between Miller and Trevor Bryan.

I'm thinking it's all a plan to get the WBA regular belt in the hands of Miller, who at some point in the future will be facing AJ. Maybe I'm watching too many movies.


Full Article:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... es-oquendo

[leejonesjnr]

Whatever happened to Charr being stripped because of the failed tests?