Nicholas Walters MIA?

[Impractical Poster]

Haven't heard a peep from or about this guy since his loss to the Loma last year.

Anyone heard any news regarding his upcoming plans?

I was/am a fan. No shame in losing to the best on the planet

[gilgamesh]

Nah hadn't heard anything about him.

Boxers seem to be a bunch of nancy boys these days. Lose one fight, and they need years of therapy or something to get over it.

Doubt there's ever been an era of the sport when guys get praised more, but do less than this one.

...All that being said. I'd like to see Walters back. Big punchers are fun.

[Stuarty]

Kinda got the impression that he was mentally done in after the Loma fight. He wasn't badly beaten up but he was completely controlled. That's a hard thing to get over. Hopefully he can get his head right and get back in the game. He's a decent guy to watch. Still some good fights there for him.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He was supposed to be on Crawford's undercard but he pulled out.

[Ricky_]

Nah hadn't heard anything about him.

Boxers seem to be a bunch of nancy boys these days. Lose one fight, and they need years of therapy or something to get over it.

Doubt there's ever been an era of the sport when guys get praised more, but do less than this one.

...All that being said. I'd like to see Walters back. Big punchers are fun.

Yeah i agree, perhaps its a negative effect to the culture of carefully matchmaking careers. Fighters get an inflated sense of their ability when they bowl over 20 tomato cans that they can't look in the mirror when they get an L.

[Kalan]

I think he's going to be punished for losing to Loma and won't get big, important fights... Look what happened to Gary Russell.

[klitoris]

Loma made the guy "no mas". It takes a lot of time to regain confidence and will to return to the ring after that whoopin, especially since he was undefeated.

[Evander]

Bet you a fiver he got stoned and dug deep into his mind, figured it all out and went to find himself.

Lomachenko Fight

The pictures of Nicholas showing up to weigh ins and all the rest of it with a marijuana symbol on his hat didn't look good.
See Walters face ... his eyes and demeanor.
Walters is a Jamaican and after 4 rounds with Vasyl Lomachenko couldn't summon up a rally of some kind, I find that unusual.
Even if you're losing a bout you still have the spirit.
Look at Gerry Penalosa's effort against Juan Manuel Lopez as an example of will to stay in the fight.
Nicholas Walters is not in good standing.

[Perseus]

Walters was fine as long as he was the guy handing a beating to somebody else.
When the tables got turned on him he showed us that he can't take what he dishes out.

[gilgamesh]

I think he's going to be punished for losing to Loma and won't get big, important fights... Look what happened to Gary Russell.

Gary Russell suffers for being an Al Haymon fighter as they all do (well suffers, ain't the right word probably, but that's why he's inactive). Al Haymon's fighters are doing well to fight twice a year, and they're lucky if 1 of them is a fight that anybody gives a sh*t about.

[Ruthless-RKO]

When a boxer loses, especially his '0' or gets paid decent money.. They tend to take a long time out.

Not sure what he got paid tbh..

** EDIT **

He earned a career-high guarantee of $550,000..

He had already taken 11 months off before that fight lol

[Kalan]

I think he's going to be punished for losing to Loma and won't get big, important fights... Look what happened to Gary Russell.

Gary Russell suffers for being an Al Haymon fighter as they all do (well suffers, ain't the right word probably, but that's why he's inactive). Al Haymon's fighters are doing well to fight twice a year, and they're lucky if 1 of them is a fight that anybody gives a sh*t about

It's more than that... Gary Russell isn't getting ANY big fights after battering Jhonny Gonzalez... Walters will get NONE after losing to Loma.

They've been kicked down stairs and pissed on.

[gilgamesh]

Gary Russell suffers for being an Al Haymon fighter as they all do (well suffers, ain't the right word probably, but that's why he's inactive). Al Haymon's fighters are doing well to fight twice a year, and they're lucky if 1 of them is a fight that anybody gives a sh*t about

It's more than that... Gary Russell isn't getting ANY big fights... Neither is Walters... They've been kicked down stairs and pissed on.

You think they'd want to bury guys after Loma beats them? In what way would that benefit Lomachenko? If anything I'd think they'd want these guys to keep going forward, and winning thereby making his wins over them look all the better.

Russell is inactive because he just doesn't seem to want to fight all that much frankly. Walters I'd say is taking his loss hard, but had been fairly inactive prior to the Lomachenko fight as well.

I think we'll see more of both of them, but I don't expect we'll see either of them in a particularly big fight anytime soon.

Gary vs Leo Santa Cruz or Oscar Valdez would be great. Walters just needs to come back against anybody just to get his name back in the mix.

[Kalan]

You think they'd want to bury guys after Loma beats them? In what way would that benefit Lomachenko?

The whole idea is NOT to benefit Lomachenko.. They don't WANT him recognized as the best boxer in the world.. They do not WANT to give that kind of prestige to anyone from Eastern Europe.. That's why they don't want Walters or Russell to get any big fights.

[gilgamesh]

You think they'd want to bury guys after Loma beats them? In what way would that benefit Lomachenko?

The whole idea is NOT to benefit Lomachenko.. They don't WANT him recognized as the best boxer in the world.. They do not WANT to give that kind of prestige to anyone from Eastern Europe.. That's why they don't want Walters or Russell to get any big fights.

Reall? Because he and GGG (both from Eastern Europe) are getting all kinds of Prestige from the Boxing world.

Shoots that theory all to hell.

[Kalan]

Bullshitt... If Golovkin was an American, he would have gotten the Canelo fight years ago instead of waiting until they thought he was slipping.

And they had those judges fixed... There was no way a decision was going to Golovkin.. Now they're not going to do an immediate rematch.. They want Golovkin to get even older.. They made Kovalev wait forever for Ward as well ... and robbed him blind twice.

Don't tell me how well Eastern Europeans are treated. Of course they're getting a lot of praise because they deserve it. But the same people keep talking them down and keeping them in the wings -- and promoting American fighters as P4P best.. There has never been a fighter outside of North America with that designation -- and the North American Boxing Establishment would love to keep it like that.

[gilgamesh]

Bullshitt... If Golovkin was an American, he would have gotten the Canelo fight years ago instead of waiting until they thought he was slipping.

And they had those judges fixed... There was no way a decision was going to Golovkin.. Now they're not going to do an immediate rematch.. They want Golovkin to get even older.. They made Kovalev wait forever for Ward as well ... and robbed him blind twice.

Don't tell me how well Eastern Europeans are treated. Of course they're getting a lot of praise because they deserve it. But the same people keep talking them down and keeping them in the wings -- and promoting American fighters as P4P best.. There has never been a fighter outside of North America with that designation -- and the North American Boxing Establishment would love to keep it like that.

Kovalev is younger than Ward.

American fight fans don't seem to have a hang up on where a guy is from. They only care if he's exciting to watch fight or not. I guarantee you GGG and Kovalev have more American fans than Crawford or Errol Spence have Eastern European fans.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Bullshitt... If Golovkin was an American, he would have gotten the Canelo fight years ago instead of waiting until they thought he was slipping.

And they had those judges fixed... There was no way a decision was going to Golovkin.. Now they're not going to do an immediate rematch.. They want Golovkin to get even older.. They made Kovalev wait forever for Ward as well ... and robbed him blind twice.

Don't tell me how well Eastern Europeans are treated. Of course they're getting a lot of praise because they deserve it. But the same people keep talking them down and keeping them in the wings -- and promoting American fighters as P4P best.. There has never been a fighter outside of North America with that designation -- and the North American Boxing Establishment would love to keep it like that.

No he wouldn't. Not with as small a following as he had a few years back. The numbers wouldnt have stacked up.

North American based promoters promoting American fighters; shock horror. Next thing you know hearn and Warren will be talking up British fighters.

You need to get your tinfoil hat upgraded.

[Kalan]

Bullshitt... If Golovkin was an American, he would have gotten the Canelo fight years ago instead of waiting until they thought he was slipping.

And they had those judges fixed... There was no way a decision was going to Golovkin.. Now they're not going to do an immediate rematch.. They want Golovkin to get even older.. They made Kovalev wait forever for Ward as well ... and robbed him blind twice.

Don't tell me how well Eastern Europeans are treated. Of course they're getting a lot of praise because they deserve it. But the same people keep talking them down and keeping them in the wings -- and promoting American fighters as P4P best.. There has never been a fighter outside of North America with that designation -- and the North American Boxing Establishment would love to keep it like that.

Kovalev is younger than Ward.

American fight fans don't seem to have a hang up on where a guy is from. They only care if he's exciting to watch fight or not. I guarantee you GGG and Kovalev have more American fans than Crawford or Errol Spence have Eastern European fans

They're fighting in North America. Mostly in America and Canada because Mexico is not where the money is. They're aggressive and knock a lot of people out. And it's taking years longer to land the biggest fights than it should.. It takes years and the playing field is tilted well against them.

Then what's going to happen to Russell and Walters... Are they going to get significant fights after a top Eastern European beat them?

[victor-romeo]

Bullshitt... If Golovkin was an American, he would have gotten the Canelo fight years ago instead of waiting until they thought he was slipping.

And they had those judges fixed... There was no way a decision was going to Golovkin.. Now they're not going to do an immediate rematch.. They want Golovkin to get even older.. They made Kovalev wait forever for Ward as well ... and robbed him blind twice.

Don't tell me how well Eastern Europeans are treated. Of course they're getting a lot of praise because they deserve it. But the same people keep talking them down and keeping them in the wings -- and promoting American fighters as P4P best.. There has never been a fighter outside of North America with that designation -- and the North American Boxing Establishment would love to keep it like that.

Kovalev is younger than Ward.

American fight fans don't seem to have a hang up on where a guy is from. They only care if he's exciting to watch fight or not. I guarantee you GGG and Kovalev have more American fans than Crawford or Errol Spence have Eastern European fans.

Actually Ward is younger than Kovalev, and Mike Tyson was huge the world over, Spence and Crawford not that exciting yet

[jewboypgh]

I hope this bum walters never fights again. aint seen a fighter quit in a fight like him since I seen a 10 yr old run out of the ring crying to mommy back in the 60s. walters should have had his entire purse deducted.

quitter!!!

[jewboypgh]

I hope this bum walters never fights again. aint seen a fighter quit in a fight like him since I seen a 10 yr old run out of the ring crying to mommy back in the 60s. walters should have had his entire purse deducted.

quitter!!!

[Kalan]

You do what's best for your future career if you're over-matched that badly and not making a fortune that you can live off of.

Walters could have gone down and taken the count on the next hard punch that hit him...if he was really worried about getting badly hurt.. I've talked to a few fighters who did that.. One guy in particular who's pretty well known, said his had a family to think about and didn't want to get hurt.. "They knew I took the fight for the money anyway. I gave everybody a real good fight. I went 5 rounds and took some really hard punches so I didn't cheat anyone. There's a limited amount of punishment you can take if you want a career after Boxing that requires a sharp mind. As soon as he hit me with the next good one I faked a knockdown. During the count I pretended I was struggling to get up and fell into the ropes at the count of 8. I even argued with the referee when he waved it."

"Nice touch" I said.