How does Rigondeaux beat Lomachenko?

[Ricky_]

If you are in Guillermo's corner, what is your tactics in this one?

I think the size advantage is a major factor here. Rigo against anyone his own size i think makes an easy night of corner work for his team; he just needs to do his this thing.

But Rigo is not only up against a fighter of possible equal (or better?) technical ability, but he's up against a bigger man.

Is Rigo reduced to a puncher's chance, or can he outbox Lomachenko from the outside? Despite being 2 inches shorter, Rigo actually possesses a 2.5" reach advantage over Vasyl.

[Counter-puncher]

If you are in Guillermo's corner, what is your tactics in this one?

I think the size advantage is a major factor here. Rigo against anyone his own size i think makes an easy night of corner work for his team; he just needs to do his this thing.

But Rigo is not only up against a fighter of possible equal (or better?) technical ability, but he's up against a bigger man.

Is Rigo reduced to a puncher's chance, or can he outbox Lomachenko from the outside? Despite being 2 inches shorter, Rigo actually possesses a 2.5" reach advantage over Vasyl.

Regarding your last point, I've said on another thread I'd be interested to see if GR can establish the jab. *if* Lomas footwork has been slightly flattered by facing mostly quite slow footed fighters, and GR's footwork can prevent him getting Angles and make it more a potshotting contest from the outside i certainly think he can at least win rounds. He could break Lomas rhythm with the jab and stop him throwing those flurries. Which have also IMO been more impressive since Loma has fought mostly slower guys, or the only quicker guy he faced Russell, can't really crack an egg, so he can scot round them at angles and pepper them. A quicker guy like GR who can also punch is a very different proposition to the guys Loma has looked a million dollars against.

Albeit it is easy to conceive of a basically one punch at a time guy like GR being out worked by Loma, which is why GR needs to try and mess Lomas rhythm up with feints, movement and jab.

[KiwiRider]

If you are in Guillermo's corner, what is your tactics in this one?

I think the size advantage is a major factor here. Rigo against anyone his own size i think makes an easy night of corner work for his team; he just needs to do his this thing.

But Rigo is not only up against a fighter of possible equal (or better?) technical ability, but he's up against a bigger man.

Is Rigo reduced to a puncher's chance, or can he outbox Lomachenko from the outside? Despite being 2 inches shorter, Rigo actually possesses a 2.5" reach advantage over Vasyl.

Regarding your last point, I've said on another thread I'd be interested to see if GR can establish the jab. *if* Lomas footwork has been slightly flattered by facing mostly quite slow footed fighters, and GR's footwork can prevent him getting Angles and make it more a potshotting contest from the outside i certainly think he can at least win rounds. He could break Lomas rhythm with the jab and stop him throwing those flurries. Which have also IMO been more impressive since Loma has fought mostly slower guys, or the only quicker guy he faced Russell, can't really crack an egg, so he can scot round them at angles and pepper them. A quicker guy like GR who can also punch is a very different proposition to the guys Loma has looked a million dollars against.

Albeit it is easy to conceive of a basically one punch at a time guy like GR being out worked by Loma, which is why GR needs to try and mess Lomas rhythm up with feints, movement and jab.

Nice post
I also think the slight reach advantage, and height deficit makes RG's jab vital in this fight. If I was Rigo, I would fight small and bang out the jab. I expect this fight to be a bit cagey for the first 2-3 rounds.

[pound per pound]

If you are in Guillermo's corner, what is your tactics in this one?

I think the size advantage is a major factor here. Rigo against anyone his own size i think makes an easy night of corner work for his team; he just needs to do his this thing.

But Rigo is not only up against a fighter of possible equal (or better?) technical ability, but he's up against a bigger man.

Is Rigo reduced to a puncher's chance, or can he outbox Lomachenko from the outside? Despite being 2 inches shorter, Rigo actually possesses a 2.5" reach advantage over Vasyl.

How can Rigo win?

Outside of getting Oscar De La Hoya to pick the judges, Rigo is going to need to jab on the outside, block and counter and tie Lomo up, or escape. A difficult task as Lomachenko footwork is outstanding.

[Counter-puncher]

If you are in Guillermo's corner, what is your tactics in this one?

I think the size advantage is a major factor here. Rigo against anyone his own size i think makes an easy night of corner work for his team; he just needs to do his this thing.

But Rigo is not only up against a fighter of possible equal (or better?) technical ability, but he's up against a bigger man.

Is Rigo reduced to a puncher's chance, or can he outbox Lomachenko from the outside? Despite being 2 inches shorter, Rigo actually possesses a 2.5" reach advantage over Vasyl.

Regarding your last point, I've said on another thread I'd be interested to see if GR can establish the jab. *if* Lomas footwork has been slightly flattered by facing mostly quite slow footed fighters, and GR's footwork can prevent him getting Angles and make it more a potshotting contest from the outside i certainly think he can at least win rounds. He could break Lomas rhythm with the jab and stop him throwing those flurries. Which have also IMO been more impressive since Loma has fought mostly slower guys, or the only quicker guy he faced Russell, can't really crack an egg, so he can scot round them at angles and pepper them. A quicker guy like GR who can also punch is a very different proposition to the guys Loma has looked a million dollars against.

Albeit it is easy to conceive of a basically one punch at a time guy like GR being out worked by Loma, which is why GR needs to try and mess Lomas rhythm up with feints, movement and jab.

Nice post
I also think the slight reach advantage, and height deficit makes RG's jab vital in this fight. If I was Rigo, I would fight small and bang out the jab. I expect this fight to be a bit cagey for the first 2-3 rounds.

Okay well if I was GR's corner playing best-of-all worlds, if GR could nick two or three early rounds when they're cagey, I'd hope GR could take advantage of Loma having to force the pace to get the cards looking more even by catching him on the way in or countering, hoping Loma gets reckless if they can build a bit of an early lead.

[Ricky_]

I think with 2 masters of the craft such subtleties are going to be important. I agree that the jab is going to be crucial to Rigo's success but can Vasyl negate the reach advantage by boxing a little more upright? That extra 2 inches in height could counteract the 2.5" reach GR has on him.

[lazboy]

Backpedal, distance + well timed jab. Lomachenko will be coming forward with pressure, make him pay.

[Thomastearns]

The judges and how they see it might be crucial here. Hopefully none of them will have a 'bad day at the office'.

Rigondeaux's style is a nightmare to dissect. He's far slicker than any of Lomachenko's opponents so far. He could easily steal round after round by the narrowest of margins with accurate counters.

The winner may have to demonstrate the ability to switch tactics several times during the fight. I'm intrigued to see what Lomachenko has prepared. His training methods seem to be a genuine advance in the sport.

[Counter-puncher]

I'm not sure Rigo can/will switch tactics. I don't see him letting his hands go much more than usual, mind, maybe Lomas pace will force more work out of him than usual.

[lazboy]

I'm not sure Rigo can/will switch tactics. I don't see him letting his hands go much more than usual, mind, maybe Lomas pace will force more work out of him than usual.

Yea see I’m not convinced rigo will do well with the pace. However I feel Loma will eat some punches as a result, however he will eventually overwhelm rigo.

[jamamb]

imo rigo will shell up. only ocassionally throw single shots. loma will still throw significantly more. nothing really clean will land from loma but it will be hard to give rigo rounds with his inactivity. loma wins a clear but unsatisfactory decision.

and as boxing fans do, including the ones here, after calling for this fight and being all excited theyll then start pooping on the boxers.overrated and blah blah.

[Impractical Poster]

Loma will be the aggressor and Rigo will be the defensive fighter looking to counter. If Rigo proves to have success countering Loma, we will be in store for an interesting night. Loma's output will drop and he will become hesitant.But if Loma's speed, combos, and movement keep RG a step behind, well, it's a wrap.I will be extremely surprised if RG wins.

Not only is Loma the bigger guy, but I feel he can adjust his style more than RG. If RG's countering doesn't work, it will be interesting if they have a Plan B.

[diddy]

He doesn’t. He will lose comprehensively.

[victor-romeo]

If Rigo does win it comes either with a full out blitz early, or he boxes from outside and lands one huge shot like Marquez did against Pacqiao .If a win were to come for Rigo the box outside and big shot would be the way..

[Ilya Muromets]

Good posts, good thread, interesting fight.

[Lackeos]

Oh, dude, once Lomachenko gets a taste of that crazy Rigondeaux power, which KO'ed 11 entire fighters who weigh 125 pounds and less, most of them about 121.5 pounds...

How else could it possibly end?

[Ilya Muromets]

Oh, dude, once Lomachenko gets a taste of that crazy Rigondeaux power, which KO'ed 11 entire fighters who weigh 125 pounds and less, most of them about 121.5 pounds...

How else could it possibly end?

But of course. Anyway, I figure it will be a one sided Lomachenko show. Odds are 4 to 1 in favor of the Ukrainian.

[lazboy]

I’m expecting a gatti Ward 1 type war with less holding and excuses. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are multiple knockdowns in rd 1, maybe even 7 knockdowns.

[Stuarty]

Its all easy to sit and say but fukk knows what'll go down man! Rigo has to box and move away probably mostly to his left whenever Loma gets near! Whenever he's faced with a chance he has to land and land clean! Looking forward to this man! Yasss!

[marvelous marv]

Rigo best chance to win would come if Loma gets complacent and as the rounds wear on and gets hit with something heavy. I think Rigo's power is underrated but his chin is suspect.

[Kalan]

He won't... Lomachenko has greater skill and intelligence... However, this is Boxing...it wouldn't surprise me if the fix was in.

No matter how tightly the Rigo side believe they have this fix wrapped up -- I still believe they will fail.

But this could turn into a scandal that rocks Boxing worse than anything before it.

[Evander]

Jab, distance monitoring, dictating the pace and penalty payment for coming on the inside.

[caldo2025]

It will be interesting to find out if this fight resembles a professional boxing match or an Olympic one considering the background of the two fighters. Will Loma continue with the mocking and the hands down defense in this one to please the crowd? Will the extra weight actually help Rigo inside the ring after a healthy camp without drastic weight cutting? Either way, i think that we'll see an exciting fight. I'm not sold that Loma is such a huge favorite in this one.

[Counter-puncher]

It will be interesting to find out if this fight resembles a professional boxing match or an Olympic one considering the background of the two fighters. Will Loma continue with the mocking and the hands down defense in this one to please the crowd? Will the extra weight actually help Rigo inside the ring after a healthy camp without drastic weight cutting? Either way, i think that we'll see an exciting fight. I'm not sold that Loma is such a huge favorite in this one.

two good questions. I suspect the answer to the second is yes. whether or not its an Olympic-style fencing match depends on how well Loma does with that style (which is what GR will want to make sure the fight plays out as). he's the one who has the stylistic option to up the pace and make more of a fight of it, if the fencing-contest isn't working so well for him.

[caldo2025]

It will be interesting to find out if this fight resembles a professional boxing match or an Olympic one considering the background of the two fighters. Will Loma continue with the mocking and the hands down defense in this one to please the crowd? Will the extra weight actually help Rigo inside the ring after a healthy camp without drastic weight cutting? Either way, i think that we'll see an exciting fight. I'm not sold that Loma is such a huge favorite in this one.

two good questions. I suspect the answer to the second is yes. whether or not its an Olympic-style fencing match depends on how well Loma does with that style (which is what GR will want to make sure the fight plays out as). he's the one who has the stylistic option to up the pace and make more of a fight of it, if the fencing-contest isn't working so well for him.

I agree. Now, i may be wrong but is it me or are Loma and Rigo pretty easy to hit at times? Against paltry opposition, i've seen both guys catch clean punches that were surprising. A loose defense due to the poor opposition might be the reason for it but I think that's what is going to make this one more fun than people think. I think that both guys can land bombs and both guys are open to be hit with bombs. I wouldn't be surprised if both guys hit the canvas before it's over. What do you think?